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So was Brady the best or did he have the best team around him?
10-12-2023, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
Yeah ok buddy. Lets go with luckyVinatieri misses a few kicks and Marshawn runs the ball and Brady likely retires at 38 39 haven't not won a super bowl in over 15 years and having as many titles as manning.
He's amazing and clearly did a lot to be competing every year(his division title record is crazy) but I don't like the 7 rings argument. There's just not that many dominant super bowl wins he has. The rams one they scored like 13 points.....
He's very very lucky in the playoffs....
He's amazing and clearly did a lot to be competing every year(his division title record is crazy) but I don't like the 7 rings argument. There's just not that many dominant super bowl wins he has. The rams one they scored like 13 points.....
He's very very lucky in the playoffs....
10-12-2023, 02:33 PM
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Tom Brady is the goat and I live in New England and hate the Pats. Belichick is not a great coach. He only has 1 playoff win with out TB and that was with Vinny Testaverde in Cleveland. He has only made the playoffs 1 without Tom Brady in New England and lost to Buffalo 47-17. He has a losing record w/o Tom Brady overall. If you want to be consider the greatest coach of all time you should be able to win with anybody.
Brady was able to make up for Bill's terrible roster moves because he was able to bring guys to New England. Look at the guys that went to Tampa and took less $$ to play with him. You saw it this year with Aaron Rodgers....
I think what made Brady so great is not only what he did on the field but, what he did off. He took less $$, because he was a winner people went to New England to play for less $$$ because they wanted the chance to win a Super Bowl.
Who is signing with NE now? Nobody!!! Unless you over pay them like he did with Smith-Shuster and even that looks like a bad signing.....
Did they get lucky...Of course but, you are only looking at a few games. Bill has coached 10 seasons and only had 3 winning seasons and this one is not looking good.
I used to hate listening to talk radio and Bill's stupid answers but, those are all ok when you are winning. I remember how he was a genius to not trade up and draft Mac Jones at 15. Nobody would give you a 4th rd pick for him......
So excited that I know going in to the season I won't have to listen to all my Patriot fans say when you question any move they make "IN BILL WE TRUST".......
The word around town is now they are blaming Robert Kraft for being a bad owner.......People are brainwashed about Belichick......
Brady was able to make up for Bill's terrible roster moves because he was able to bring guys to New England. Look at the guys that went to Tampa and took less $$ to play with him. You saw it this year with Aaron Rodgers....
I think what made Brady so great is not only what he did on the field but, what he did off. He took less $$, because he was a winner people went to New England to play for less $$$ because they wanted the chance to win a Super Bowl.
Who is signing with NE now? Nobody!!! Unless you over pay them like he did with Smith-Shuster and even that looks like a bad signing.....
Did they get lucky...Of course but, you are only looking at a few games. Bill has coached 10 seasons and only had 3 winning seasons and this one is not looking good.
I used to hate listening to talk radio and Bill's stupid answers but, those are all ok when you are winning. I remember how he was a genius to not trade up and draft Mac Jones at 15. Nobody would give you a 4th rd pick for him......
So excited that I know going in to the season I won't have to listen to all my Patriot fans say when you question any move they make "IN BILL WE TRUST".......
The word around town is now they are blaming Robert Kraft for being a bad owner.......People are brainwashed about Belichick......
10-12-2023, 02:42 PM
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he had the best refs money could buy.
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10-12-2023, 03:02 PM
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Honestly his teams weren't even that talented for the majority of his career. Aside from the Randy Moss season and his team at Tampa, he really didn't not have juggernaut teams or anything. He f*cking made Wes Welker and Julian Edelman superstar wide receivers running a bunch of slot routes lol. His running back was almost always pure trash. The one thing he did have that helped was a good offensive line. I will give them credit for that. For the most part Brady had time to do what he needed to do and that was a big factor. Otherwise he really had nothing special surrounding him on offense with the exception of the Moss season and the Tampa Bay years.
10-12-2023, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
Bullsh*t part of why Brady won was game management plain and simple. LOL at Vinatieri misses a few kicks and he has less rings. So now we're penalizing Brady for expecting his kicker to perform his job accordingly? Ok retard. Who put it the ball in a spot where Vinatieri could do his thing again? Oh yeah that was Brady... let's ignore that though.Vinatieri misses a few kicks and Marshawn runs the ball and Brady likely retires at 38 39 haven't not won a super bowl in over 15 years and having as many titles as manning.
He's amazing and clearly did a lot to be competing every year(his division title record is crazy) but I don't like the 7 rings argument. There's just not that many dominant super bowl wins he has. The rams one they scored like 13 points.....
He's very very lucky in the playoffs....
He's amazing and clearly did a lot to be competing every year(his division title record is crazy) but I don't like the 7 rings argument. There's just not that many dominant super bowl wins he has. The rams one they scored like 13 points.....
He's very very lucky in the playoffs....
This is like saying your boy Ken Griffey Jr. wasn't good because he only has so many RBIs because his teammates got on base for him. What kind of f*cking sense would that make? It's a team game. Of course there's going to be a team element. Brady did his job exactly like he needed to put his team in a position to win as much as they did. Other QBs did not. It's really that simple.
10-12-2023, 03:14 PM
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Since people wouldn't stfu about him being the GOAT QB I started watching a few of his games (I only watched CFB). Had some very notable comebacks and I quickly realized the hype was real. Unreal with decision making and audibles. Unreal QB overall. Definitely had a lot of talent around him, so did plenty of other QBs, but he won a lot of games that he shouldn't have. If some people say he's the goat I can't argue with that.
Same with MJ footage. Go back in time and watch some of his games and if you disagree with him being the GOAT, you just dumb.
Same with MJ footage. Go back in time and watch some of his games and if you disagree with him being the GOAT, you just dumb.
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