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post 1691555553 10-12-2023, 11:30 AM
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So was Brady the best or did he have the best team around him?

If he was the best, what made him so much better than other qbs?
post 1691555663 10-12-2023, 11:32 AM
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His speed of thinking, accuracy and getting on teammates to raise the intensity.
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post 1691555693 10-12-2023, 11:33 AM
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He did with too many different teams around him not to be the reason. He almost did it in TB too. He was the best ever. He was absolutely the hardest QB to beat to ever play just as MJ was the hardest basketball player to beat. They just had an extra gear others didn't have.
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post 1691555743 10-12-2023, 11:33 AM
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Definitely the GOAT qb and my team stole the greatest season of all time from him then beat him again four years later in the superbowl.

Intangibles. Pocket passer with high position IQ and a solid offensive line.
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He wanted to keep winning and he did
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Very calm, and composed never got rattled even when losing(lol see falcons SB). I think it clearly shows hes elite look at the Patriots now, and then he goes to Tampa Bay, and also wins a Super Bowl there lol.
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Originally Posted By JustLMAOatU⏩
Very calm, and composed never got rattled even when losing(lol see falcons SB). I think it clearly shows hes elite look at the Patriots now, and then he goes to Tampa Bay, and also wins a Super Bowl there lol.
lol I said almost b/c I was through watching football by then, had forgotten they won.
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post 1691555983 10-12-2023, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Definitely the GOAT qb and my team stole the greatest season of all time from him then beat him again four years later in the superbowl.

Intangibles. Pocket passer with high position IQ and a solid offensive line.
Those Giants Patriots Superbowls were always so epic man. My uncle is a huge lifelong Giants fan he had a bunch of people when they won again in 2012.

We drank Captain Morgan Tattoo liquor all night lmao got fukn blasted. I don't even know if they make that liquor anymore.

I remember waking up, and some guy slept on top of the kitchen sink vanity.
post 1691556023 10-12-2023, 11:38 AM
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he was the best man
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Originally Posted By JustLMAOatU⏩
Those Giants Patriots Superbowls were always so epic man. My uncle is a huge lifelong Giants fan he had a bunch of people when they won again in 2012.

We drank Captain Morgan Tattoo liquor all night lmao got fukn blasted. I don't even know if they make that liquor anymore.

I remember waking up, and some guy slept on top of the kitchen sink vanity.
Superbowl 42 was one of the greatest moments of my life, srs.
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post 1691556113 10-12-2023, 11:40 AM
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always had the best refs around him
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almost NEVER turns the ball over, which is huge

makes elite decisions with the ball

clutch

elevates lesser players to higher performance


for example, Bill Bellichick is now exposed without Brady. Bellichick is a great defensive coordinator, but trash at offense. Brady carried the offense for him, which resulted in so much winning. Offenses with not much to work with except Gronk near the end of his career.
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post 1691556313 10-12-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By misctrader⏩
If he was the best, what made him so much better than other qbs?
Cheating.
post 1691556433 10-12-2023, 11:45 AM
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He was clutch when it mattered the most. Peyton is objectively a better QB but Tom’s ability to will his team to a win is unmatched.
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He was definitely helped by external factors but he is the GOAT. imo even if he never won a superbowl just the way he'd come back in regular season games was crazy. like even with 2 minutes left it was legit crazy....or rigged.
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The most lucky and helped qb of all time

First 3 sbs carried by genius BB defenses. All Brady had to do was carry the bus

Had the best receiver ever in Moss and couldn’t even win in the sb

Seahawks sb cause they didn’t run lynch
Falcons blew a 24 pt lead.
Bb genius defense held rams to 3 pts

Then he goes to tb and gets carried more. Defense literally stopped the goat mahomes

Average pocket awareness, no mobility, mediocre stats in playoffs and super bowls, unathletic, carried by goat defenses and gronk.

Carried by elite slot receivers who would get open for a constant 3-5 yards every time in welker and edelman

Mediocre arm strength and accuracy. Low iq.
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post 1691556923 10-12-2023, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
The most lucky and helped qb of all time

First 3 sbs carried by genius BB defenses. All Brady had to do was carry the bus

Had the best receiver ever in Moss and couldn’t even win in the sb

Seahawks sb cause they didn’t run lynch
Falcons blew a 24 pt lead.
Bb genius defense held rams to 3 pts

Then he goes to tb and gets carried more. Defense literally stopped the goat mahomes

Average pocket awareness, no mobility, mediocre stats in playoffs and super bowls, unathletic, carried by goat defenses and gronk.

Mediocre arm strength and accuracy. Low iq.
lol cope by a hater. He was the best, you know nothing about football. For every SB win, the other team did SOMETHING to lose. Low IQ? lol boy stfu you're just rolling at this point. Aren't you a literal fgt anyway?
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post 1691557093 10-12-2023, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By natypes⏩
lol cope by a hater. He was the best, you know nothing about football. For every SB win, the other team did SOMETHING to lose. Low IQ? lol boy stfu you're just rolling at this point. Aren't you a literal fgt anyway?
Sit down junior. You don’t know football.

Brady got carried by tb and an elite defense
In fact he mistaken 3rd down for 4th down against the bears

He got shut out by the cowboys of all teams in the ‘22 playoffs

Brady couldn’t even hold Mannings jock strap even if he tried. Too bad manning was hampered by **** teams and coaches early in his career. This is further evidenced by the fact mannngs little twink brother schooled Brady in the sb TWICE

Mahomes is already a greater qb than Brady
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post 1691557113 10-12-2023, 11:57 AM
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Lol, I despise teams from New England but you guys are autistic if you don't think Brady is EASILY the GOAT.

And he's a Trump voter.
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
And some of his early super bowls were won barely off field goals. A few things go the other way and tom has as many super bowl wins as mahomes. Perhaps only 1.
Exactly. Not once have I ever watched a sb that Brady won and after thought to myself “you know, Brady single handedly carried the pats to that win, he is for sure the best qb that season” in fact he was over shadowed by supremely other better qbs like manning, brees, mahomes, etc
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
Sit down junior. You don’t know football.

Brady got carried by tb and an elite defense
In fact he mistaken 3rd down for 4th down against the bears

He got shut out by the cowboys of all teams in the ‘22 playoffs

Brady couldn’t even hold Mannings jock strap even if he tried. Too bad manning was hampered by **** teams and coaches early in his career. This is further evidenced by the fact mannngs little twink brother schooled Brady in the sb TWICE

Mahomes is already a greater qb than Brady
ok son lol. Keep coping he's widely regarded as the goat by most of the sports world and your little opinion means nothing. literal fgt lol
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Hahahaha




2 league mvp titles

4 Super Bowl rings

Guaranteed first bell hall of famer


Hahaha I don’t know about 5 months ago I saw all these old Mercedes and Tom Brady subliminals


And then he shows up on my insta


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Imagine getting out dueled by a career backup twink in Nick Foles in the sb…
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Easy GOAT. He's Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky level dominant. Also seemed to have no ego, even took pay cuts to inspire comradery with his team.
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Lol, I despise teams from New England but you guys are autistic if you don't think Brady is EASILY the GOAT.

And he's a Trump voter.
Eli Manning eats goat
Look at Brady with his head down
seeking the approval
of Eli

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Originally Posted By imiscubb⏩
Eli Manning eats goat
Look at Brady with his head down
seeking the approval
of Eli

Based

Eli Manning will forever be my GOAT
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
Honeslty if pete carrol doesn't blow it, he loses against seattle and Tom has 3 straight super bowl losses under his belt and all the criticism that comes with it

Team probably never has that edge and confidence to win that atlanta super bowl.


You could argue if he's struggled to win one since 2003 that he simply retires around age 40 and doesn't go to tampa(retiring with a 3-3 super bowl record) and basically considered just a great hall of famer but not the goat


The russ wilson pick really changed his entire life and career
recently Marshawn Lynch said he had no personal relationship with R Wilson like no communicating off field. That finally really explained to me why they didn't run him. RW didn't like him and probably didn't like giving him the ball ever.

think about that play all the time. wasn't even a yard...more like a foot and they didn't run the damn ball. allegedly cost everyplayer like a 500K bonus plus the ring and all that.

if someone doesn't understand a bird in hand is worth two in the bush...watch that play.
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Bill Belichick knew he couldn’t win with his average qb… why do you think he resorted to spy gate and deflategate in the first place? Brady needed extra help when in fact it was Bill genius defensive scheming and sly cheating that won those SBs, yet Brady gets all the credit.

Brady had to cry to the coach that his hands weren’t big enough to throw the football accurately and confidently. He’s been playing with deflated balls his whole career to aid him in accuracy and throwing the deep ball.
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
All of his super bowls were nail biters and he got bailed out by Vinatieri, Pete carroll, the stupidity of Atlanta coaching staff playing prevent d for one half and not running the clock out, etc

Like he's still.amazing and a top 5 qb....but his.suoer bowl record could easily by 1-6
who setup Vinateri to hit those FG? pretty sure the announcer thought they were gonna play for over time vs Ram but Brady had other ideas. The guy is a proven winner and will his teammates to go to war for him. Leaders like him does not exist today. He brings out the best out of everyone around him when the team is mediocre but play to elite level and rarely make mistakes.
He could've easily been 10-0 too if want to speak metric, asante samuel dropping interception or welker dropping that catch or Bellicheck letting foles sh*t over his defense plus benching butler.
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Wrong. That is coaching. All Tom did was throw the ball to open receivers (who were open a lot)

Many ex pats have said the patriots org runs like the military. Where discipline and attention to detail were paramount to success.

Bill made Brady, and his support cast. Cause bill was the general of that military
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