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post 1691914783 10-18-2023, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
Ya a power vent hot water tank costs them under one K , but after re hooking up the water , gas and outlet pipe that is already there in place , they quoted me 4K for what is essentially two hours of labour lol .
Guess in B.C. labour for a journeyman is $1500 an hour
Power vents are not under 1k
post 1691914893 10-18-2023, 04:06 PM
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I don't know, just got quotes from an autobody shop I want to use. One for something covered by insurance, one for a scratch on my bumper that I am paying out of pocket. Estimates seemed ridiculous to me, at least one is covered.
post 1691914963 10-18-2023, 04:08 PM
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Aside from major plumbing jobs (a massive leak under the house or a literal initial plumbing installation into a new home) there's really no need for a plumber.

a quick youtube search and a trip to home depot will fix 99.9% of all your problems.
post 1691915513 10-18-2023, 04:16 PM
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litterally got my mechanical engineering degree a year ago and i may go back to the trades just because of the demand.

you realize how hard it was to get into the trades in the mid 00's? LOL it was a lottery ticket if a shop called you.
post 1691915653 10-18-2023, 04:19 PM
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Saved thousands learning how to replace PEX pipes myself. It’s not that hard. Neither is using a snake.
post 1691916183 10-18-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By fate0311
you realize how hard it was to get into the trades in the mid 00's? LOL it was a lottery ticket if a shop called you.
After college (undergrad), I remember once applying to the local IBEW where I lived at the time. I got the max possible score on the aptitude test, and then went to the interview and at the end they were like "we likely won't be hiring".

Okay then.
post 1691916243 10-18-2023, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
After college (undergrad), I remember once applying to the local IBEW where I lived at the time. I got the max possible score on the aptitude test, and then went to the interview and at the end they were like "yeah, we likely won't be hiring".

Okay then.
That’s because the job was already taken they go through all because they have too
post 1691916653 10-18-2023, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Fuark, is this why you LOL @ tradies?
Based. Nothing more truer said about tradies.
post 1691916703 10-18-2023, 04:36 PM
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i remember one job we had to do we had to dig up an entire yard with a backhoe and shovels to replace old clay pipes.that was a nightmare.still better than roofing
post 1691916743 10-18-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
That’s because the job was already taken they go through all because they have too
It was 2009 too, so far from the best time for that.
Originally Posted By Anachron
Fuark, is this why you LOL @ tradies?
Absolutely.

post 1691916783 10-18-2023, 04:38 PM
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Auto mechanics are still the absolute moggers.

$500/hr to change spark plugs on an inline-4 is still the most ludicrous gouging I've ever seen with my own two eyes.
post 1691916833 10-18-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By LiveLaughLoath
My lord the price of plumbing work these days is damn near an arm and a leg. It's essentially $300 just to get a plumber to even come to your house these days, let alone fix something. Plumbers with their own companies make insane bank. Probably 300k+/year if they're getting a lot of business. I know one dude who charges $500 minimum for any clog related issue. So even if he pulls up to your house and unclogs whatever is clogged in 5 minutes... $500. Sh!t is crazy.
They don't earn anything at all as resi plumbers. Max if you do a lot of OT is 100k. 300 for callout is bullchit, you just got ripped off. Driving from place to place alone takes up half the day by itself, so anything you pay them needs to be divided by half, then deduct off all the other bullchit he doesn't charge you for - training, licences, vehicle repairs and depreciation, peripheral parts and supplies, etc.

Then he has micro cuts on his fingers from all the tools he's using, and stick his hand into your chit and gives in a good swirl, getting trillions of bacteria into the cuts and getting mega infected.

Plumbers there's 2 sorts - the sort that never falls sick, but always have a bit of pus on their fingers, or those that fall sick half the year thanks to human chit.
post 1691916863 10-18-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Auto mechanics are still the absolute moggers.

$500/hr to change spark plugs on an inline-4 is still the most ludicrous gouging I've ever seen with my own two eyes.
Where? Some really high end dealership?
post 1691916943 10-18-2023, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By KBurn
They don't earn anything at all as resi plumbers. Max if you do a lot of OT is 100k. 300 for callout is bullchit, you just got ripped off. Driving from place to place alone takes up half the day by itself, so anything you pay them needs to be divided by half, then deduct off all the other bullchit he doesn't charge you for - training, licences, vehicle repairs and depreciation, peripheral parts and supplies, etc.
Nah I use $50 of gas every two days (that’s driving all over the place in a V8 van) and that chit you mentioned is a write off to drive my income down

Most work vans you don’t care about the depreciation you run them into the ground and buy another one
post 1691917213 10-18-2023, 04:45 PM
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Just be a rentchad and you don't have to worry about plumbers.

You can even upper decker yourself
post 1691917243 10-18-2023, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing
Lol@ not watching YouTube videos and just doing it yourself
This video?
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post 1691917693 10-18-2023, 04:56 PM
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I’m getting a new water heater put in soon for about $2000


Seems steep but what am I gonna do about?

Thanks Biden
Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
Ya a power vent hot water tank costs them under one K , but after re hooking up the water , gas and outlet pipe that is already there in place , they quoted me 4K for what is essentially two hours of labour lol .
Guess in B.C. labour for a journeyman is $1500 an hour
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Originally Posted By Robmnrd
I wonder if there's decent money to be made in a toilet-unclogging business where that is literally the only thing you do.
I think you could do drain clearing and hot water heater installs and make a pretty straightforward $150k/year, if not more.

The guy who installed my last hot water heater only did water heaters and he was still backed up 5-6 days. Paid about $2500 for him to install a $900 water heater. Took him a few hours, tops.
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing
Lol@ not watching YouTube videos and just doing it yourself
Same thing when people need to get surgery. LOL at spending thousands going to a hospital to get your appendix taken out when you can do it from the comfort of your own studio apartment.
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post 1691919933 10-18-2023, 05:29 PM
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Its because society has stopped respecting anyone without a college degree so the number of tradies have been going down while number of lesbian fart vocalists have skyrocketed. Yet the demand for unclogging poops have risen as well.

I had to pay $1k for a snake and jetset for my condo's pipe (tenant living there so it was urgent) and the dude probably spent 1.5-2hours MAX on the job. Few jobs can gross 500/hr but i think the profit all goes to the business owner because i doubt plumbers are making 150k-300k based on their lifestyles.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Where? Some really high end dealership?
Nope, Hyundai dealership.

Dead fuking SRS. Happened to someone I know in the Phoenix area about 2 months ago.

I even made a thread about it.
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed
Just be a rentchad and you don't have to worry about plumbers.

You can even upper decker yourself
Post of the year ^
post 1691924413 10-18-2023, 06:59 PM
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Its a chitty job though. I'd rather do copper piping.
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just fix your diet so you're not blocking your toilet??????
post 1691944933 10-19-2023, 06:56 AM
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Plumbers dont get paid the money they get paid because they only unclog toilets and fix CPVC by gluing in a coupling... those are the bottom feeders of the industry... residential plumbers.

Some service jobs pay well but you are talking about a very small portion of Journeyman Plumbers who are state tested & certified that are willing to make a career out of it.

**Fun Fact** All of the Medical Gases that are ran to surgical suites , ICU's , & patient rooms that help keep people alive... All installed by Plumbers...Same goes for all of the RO & Ionized water systems.... Potable Domestic water ran to every drinking fountain... Miles of cleaned & capped type K copper with brazed joints while the lines are being purged by nitrogen to keep the system clean...etc. etc.. etc... I could keep going but there is more to being a Plumber than meets the eye.

Even though I dont use it to make my living and havent for some time I still keep my Journeyman Plumbing license current in the state of Texas as a Plan B.... as in if $hit really did hit the fan and I needed to dust my tools off... I can still pull a solid income to make ends meet.
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh
Plumbers dont get paid the money they get paid because they only unclog toilets and fix CPVC by gluing in a coupling... those are the bottom feeders of the industry... residential plumbers.

Some service jobs pay well but you are talking about a very small portion of Journeyman Plumbers who are state tested & certified that are willing to make a career out of it.

**Fun Fact** All of the Medical Gases that are ran to surgical suites , ICU's , & patient rooms that help keep people alive... All installed by Plumbers...Same goes for all of the RO & Ionized water systems.... Potable Domestic water ran to every drinking fountain... Miles of cleaned & capped type K copper with brazed joints while the lines are being purged by nitrogen to keep the system clean...etc. etc.. etc... I could keep going but there is more to being a Plumber than meets the eye.

Even though I dont use it to make my living and havent for some time I still keep my Journeyman Plumbing license current in the state of Texas as a Plan B.... as in if $hit really did hit the fan and I needed to dust my tools off... I can still pull a solid income to make ends meet.
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Baking soda and vinegar. Saran wrap.

Wi unclog most pipes.

Unless you have big damage why even get a Mario or luigi?
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post 1691945573 10-19-2023, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
LOL at not having a trusty mexican plumber who only works for cash.
^This. You don't need a license to unclog a plugged up toilet. Everything else with more risk (e.g. high voltage electrical), go with licensed.
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Originally Posted By greenleaf
^This. You don't need a license to unclog a plugged up toilet. Everything else with more risk (e.g. high voltage electrical), go with licensed.
LULz... and when Ricardo repairs that busted water main with an old piece of Galvanized pipe he ripped out of some other $hithole on the low you should be fine... lead poisoning is blown WAY out of proportion these days... how bad could it really be??? As long as it is cheap
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My neighbor is a plumber and literally drives a fooking Lamborghini Aventador. ded fkn srs.

In 2023, you really need to learn a little about everything if you're going to own a home.

Unless you're doing new construction or major renovations, plumbing work is usually pretty straightforward. There are a couple of exceptions, but for the most part, an average homeowner could do the repairs themselves with a little research.

Learn to solder, learn how to clear drains, and learn how to cement pvc. It's really not that hard.

I'm really surprised HVAC guys haven't gone the way of the plumber with their prices. That chit is legit nearly impossible for the average homeowner, yet they charge a lot less.
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