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post 1692430453 10-27-2023, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
An actual blend of cultures with people from different walks of life, different ethnic backgrounds, and different opinions respecting and embracing each other?
Great.

Totalitarian Marxism demanding retribution for cherry-picked history that conveniently ignores the fact it caused multiple mass murders and genocides in the past century?
Horrible.
This is not a thing that happens in real life.
Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Anybody who says diversity is great right now is lying.The melting pot social experiment has ended in failure, everyone is getting more tribal than ever.
This is.
post 1692430553 10-27-2023, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
You expect whites to start doing manual labor for cheap?
So minorities are the only folks dumb enough to get cheap manual labor jobs?

Lol...yeah I know it's a loaded question but the majority of people who use that argument do honestly feel that non whites are only good for cleaning toilets and mowing lawns.
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post 1692431593 10-27-2023, 09:24 PM
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What definition are you referring to with “diversity”? Are you referring to the leftist’s idea of diversity, in which skin color or gender makes someone diverse?

The leftist idea of diversity is a social construct based on subjective perceptions. It’s not based on anything objective. For example, what makes the economy work are skills, work experience, education, training, efficiency, reliability etc. Actually diversity. What does the economy/business care what skin color you are, or what your social background is?

Diversity is just a mechanism to tear down meritocracy and replace it with equity, AKA, socialism. Liberals are butt hurt by the fact that we are not equal, and in their arrogance and narcissism, believe they can play God and fix an entire society to make us all the same. it doesn’t take a genius to realize not everyone has the same IQ, skills, training, education etc. To make this even simpler, think of it like this. Children growing up in the same home, with the same parents…same exact environment turn out completely different. How in the world will we get people of all different backgrounds turn out the same? We can’t.

So what is this really about? Well, the government loves this idea because it gives absolute power to the government, and absolute corruption. It’s best just to let individuals decide what’s best for themselves, which is the definition of liberty.
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post 1692431893 10-27-2023, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
You expect whites to start doing manual labor for cheap?
I wonder if libs are ever going to realize how democrats importing the 3'rd world is basically the latest version of slave labor.
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You have scientist, engineers, doctors, Chefs, craftsmen, or just people top of their fields from the US, Japan, Germany, UK, Russia ect, that's good diversity.

You have undeducated, low IQ, stuck in their ways, ignorant stupid 3rd worlders looking for a free place to stay and free food that just want to commit crimes because they think the world owes them somethign, that' bad diversity.
post 1692433483 10-27-2023, 10:21 PM
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Sub-Saharan Africa is the most diverse part of the world. It's also the most war-torn, crime-filled and poverty-stricken.

People will blame colonialism, but it's been that way for well over a millennium before Europeans showed up - they just have more lethal technology now.

Meanwhile, the happiest and most prosperous countries (Japan, South Korea, Finland, Denmark) are homogenous.

Botswana, the most successful African nation, is also probably the least diverse.
post 1692435933 10-28-2023, 12:00 AM
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post 1692436133 10-28-2023, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Smob3⏩
Sub-Saharan Africa is the most diverse part of the world. It's also the most war-torn, crime-filled and poverty-stricken.

People will blame colonialism, but it's been that way for well over a millennium before Europeans showed up - they just have more lethal technology now.

Meanwhile, the happiest and most prosperous countries (Japan, South Korea, Finland, Denmark) are homogenous.

Botswana, the most successful African nation, is also probably the least diverse.
sub saharan africa is the most diverse?
post 1692438583 10-28-2023, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I am not sure what the conservative perspective on diversity is tbh.

In employment - merit based is obviously correct. So conservatives are right there.

For society at large. Diversity is a great thing as long as it is in the idea of a minority seeking to become a part of the majority. Any time you have a group of people collate together and make their own segregated communities you are fractioning unit cohesion.
How does that work in the US when we won't even have a majority group soon?
post 1692439803 10-28-2023, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Instead of incentivizing the existing population, who is already well adjusted to the local culture, to have more children, the solution is to bring in a foreign culture and pray they assimilate and adopt local cultural values?

You're a good example for why we need aptitude tests for decision making positions.
He is the perfect example of why democracy is a dead end.
post 1692440053 10-28-2023, 04:11 AM
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It's a gray area. Diversity can greatly help or hurt your country.
Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
He is the perfect example of why democracy is a dead end.
Do you intend to force women to have children at gunpoint, cucker?

lmao

Every developed country is seeing falling birthrates, primarily as a result of expenses to raise children and availability of contraception. You white guys love having premarital sex with everyone with a hole, and then you question why your society's family values are crumbling and no one is having babies. Again, why aren't you married and a father? We both know why, mr. Aryan ubermenschen.
post 1692458363 10-28-2023, 12:05 PM
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post 1692459193 10-28-2023, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By WINeCELlar⏩
It's a gray area. Diversity can greatly help or hurt your country.

Do you intend to force women to have children at gunpoint, cucker?

lmao

Every developed country is seeing falling birthrates, primarily as a result of expenses to raise children and availability of contraception. You white guys love having premarital sex with everyone with a hole, and then you question why your society's family values are crumbling and no one is having babies. Again, why aren't you married and a father? We both know why, mr. Aryan ubermenschen.
I don't recall details, but I'm pretty sure Hungary has been taking measures to encourage people to have kids, and that it's been (at least somewhat) effective.
post 1692459923 10-28-2023, 12:40 PM
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Everyone seems to think that immigration is the solution for population problems. This is false. The only reason why lowering population is a problem, is because we need people for innovation and entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs and innovators create things that we want and need. Labor is the easy part, contrary to what the Marxists believe. It's easy to find lower educated individuals to do the work, but innovation and the entrepreneur personality types are extremely rare

This is the reason why the United States gives green cards and visas to highly educated and skilled foreigners. Allowing mass immigration from low educated areas does more harm than good, because when people come from an unstable country, they destabilize the country they are moving to. Educated individuals create stability and fill the needs of the country.

We have examples all throughout history of groups coming from unstable countries and causing chaos in the country they move to. As mentioned before, the early Irish and Scottish came to America before their countries were stabilized and they had rule of law. When they came to America they were absolute menaces. Luckily we didn't have a welfare state back then, which compelled them to become educated. Many of them ended up in politics.
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post 1692488703 10-29-2023, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
sub saharan africa is the most diverse?
Yessir
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I originbally was very skeptical of this push for diversity, i thought it would result in increased crime. Hopwever, now its happened, it actually made the place better.
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
This is not a thing that happens in real life.
Seemed to be working decently fine in the 90s.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Seemed to be working decently fine in the 90s.
It wasn't happening in the 90s. All western countries were just much more white in the 90s.
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diversity of thoughts and experience = good
diversity of arbitrary demographic traits = not useful
post 1692520663 10-29-2023, 04:35 PM
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Lets check in on diversity

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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
I'm not sure where I fall on this. Can a liberal honestly say that this country would still be successful if half the population were black? Or Muslim? Diversity has it's advantages though.
if half of the population were black, u wouldnt say that diverse tough.
high iq immigrants are defo a net positive
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
sub saharan africa is the most diverse?
Yep - in terms of genetics, ethnicities and dialects.
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Isn't diversity wonderful?

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