I'm not sure where I fall on this. Can a liberal honestly say that this country would still be successful if half the population were black? Or Muslim? Diversity has it's advantages though.

Immigration is an economic necessity and the country needs a solution to an aging population.


Virtually every economist agrees immigration is a net benefit, it's just that cognitive bias and immigration cause cultists to perceive it as a larger problem that what it is in reality, and racism and xenophobia take over. MURR JERBS, DERE JOOZ, etc.

I guess Asia are a bunch of xenophobic bigots because they are very restrictive with immigration

South Korea and Japan are having huge problems with declining populations and it aging. They've goofed and it's going to wreak havoc by most economists accounts.

And yes, they're xenophobic.

OK, we've been through the economic necessity thing before, so I won't repeat myself, we all know (left or right) it's bullsht (infinite growth with finite resources is unsustainable). If you're going to try to make an argument wrt to the ageing population, running what is in effect a ponzi scheme doesn't solve that issue.

Yeah if they let in millions of Africans that would surely solve all their problems and definitely not cause countless more.

Famous commentator Victor Davis Hanson has written many articles over the years on the topic of diversity, its positives and negatives. Davis is a historian.
Biden with his open border policies, allowing up to 10 millions illegal aliens into America, is conducting a great experiment on Americans. I hope it turns out well for the US. Historically though, as Davis points out diversity hasn't worked so well for other countries in the past. One of his articles ~


Victor Davis Hanson: Diversity -- History's Pathway To Chaos

https://www.investors.com/politics/c...hway-to-chaos/

Emphasizing diversity has been the pitfall, not the strength, of nations throughout history.

The Roman Empire worked as long as Iberians, Greeks, Jews, Gauls and myriad other African, Asian and European communities spoke Latin, cherished habeas corpus and saw being Roman as preferable to identifying with their own particular tribe. By the fifth century, diversity had won out but would soon prove a fatal liability.

Rome disintegrated when it became unable to assimilate new influxes of northern European tribes. Newcomers had no intention of giving up their Gothic, Hunnish or Vandal identities.

The propaganda of history's multicultural empires -- the Ottoman, the Russian, the Austro-Hungarian, the British and the Soviet -- was never the strength of their diversity. To avoid chaos, their governments bragged about the religious, ideological or royal advantages of unity, not diversity.

Nor did more modern quagmires like Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Rwanda or Yugoslavia boast that they were "diverse." Instead, their strongman leaders naturally claimed that they shared an all-encompassing commonality.

When such coerced harmony failed, these nations suffered the even worse consequences of diversity, as tribes and sects turned murderously upon each other.

For some reason, contemporary America believes that it can reject its uniquely successful melting pot to embrace a historically dangerous and discredited salad-bowl separatism.

Is there any evidence from the past that institutionalizing sects and ethnic grievances would ensure a nation's security, prosperity and freedom?

America's melting pot is history's sole exception of E pluribus unum inclusivity: a successful multiracial society bound by a common culture, language and values. But this is a historic aberration with a future that is now in doubt.

Some students attending California's Claremont College openly demand roommates of the same race. Racially segregated "safe spaces" are fixtures on college campuses.

We speak casually of bloc voting on the basis of skin color — as if a lockstep Asian, Latino, black or white vote is a good thing.

We are reverting to the nihilism of the old Confederacy. The South's "one-drop rule" has often been ....

Countries don't tend to do that with immigration, retard.

So you're saying the type of immigrant matters?

Depends on who you get in, not all migration is of equal quality.

For example many western euro countries where non euro migrants only 50% work and are mostly a burden on society let alone the other problems it creates by importing people with a different culture, religion, etc.

Also pro immigration lefties don't have the moral highground, they're literally stealing the best and brightest of the third world aka brain drain.

The solution for aging shouldn't be endlessly importing people but a change of the system that demands constant growth. Another thing is literally everywhere in the world besides africa and some middle eastern countries are dealing with a below level replacement birthrate.

The liberal focus on diversity is much more based on exploitation for personal gain than it is legitimately trying to help anyone else or the success of the country. Liberal diversity policies are nearly entirely based specifically on people's race which sends several very disturbing messages. The most disturbing of those being that any race based legislation blatantly violates the 14th amendment, but on top of that the policy sends the clear message that people's race is the reason they need government assistance which inherently implies their race makes them inferior.

On the other hand Trump's policies were based on socioeconomic status which are focused on the concept that anyone, regardless of their race, religion, etc living in those same, difficult environments are going to face the same disadvantages. That type of policy is exactly how you actually achieve productive diversity and eliminate systemic racism, but that is a huge threat to liberal race exploitation, thus the horrific, fascism that exists currently, shutting down opposing thought by fear of violence and uncountable attempts to politically assassinate Trump with no consequence for so many previously proven false prosecution attempts.

Yep, I'm not sure how importing a bunch of third worlders (who then proceed to massively outbreed the native population and the productive people) is good for a country.

You can't have a first world country with a third world population. Of course, NOT ALL, but far too many (we shouldn't want to import ANY unproductive moochers). Also, even the good/smart/productive ones (ie majority of Asians who came legally) still vote overwhelmingly left. "STOP ASIAN HATE!" proceeds to vote for the side that advocates all of this soft on crime chit.

Saw this this morning ~

Watson Video: “He Admitted It”
Henry Kissinger makes a telling admission about multiculturalism and mass migration.

In this new video, Paul Watson discusses the catastrophic failure of multiculturalism and mass migration – referring to a telling admission by Henry Kissinger that was ignored by the establishment media.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/paul-wa...e-admitted-it/

You have very accurately described the conservative frustration due to the currently extreme liberal controlled administration's complete abandonment of immigration policy. We absolutely need to return to having an actual immigration system. The lack of valuable talent in the US is also not due to an aging population, and has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia. The US problem is that instead of building on the tech revolution the previous generation built the new generation are completely lazy, entitled, and stupid. Instead of learning, applying, and advancing the technology given to them, they think they deserve to be rich for taking pictures of their butts.

The current insane open invasion border policy couldn't be farther from benefiting anyone. The greatest economically beneficial immigration policy to this country would be focused on helping more Asian immigration from very poor populations such as India, Philippines, Singapore, etc, those are the people I work all hours of the day and night with leading technology projects and used to work in person with before the extended destructive liberal COVID policies shut down while completely opening the physical borders to those that have no respect for law, the values of this country or even morality. In reality conservatives are pro immigration while liberals are not.

There is no interpretation of political perception needed because the reality is impossible to ignore in any highly progressive controlled city how absolutely destructive their policies are. Progressive groups are the cults thriving on racism and xenophobia to advance their agenda.

libs dont even know what diversity means

No... its failed in most countries outside of America miserably.. and only really been somewhat successful in the US due to the "American Dream" and getting people to buy into that

Other (European) countries barely tried to get all these people to integrate

But even now America is starting to have issues due to media/radicals helping separate and push people into boxes in regards to race/sex/sexual preference/religion/pronouns + other BS

I dont have an issue with diversity, per say...however, for it be successful it has to be naturally occurring and organic happening over generations, not forced and at the expense of the native population, as we are currently witnessing.

Don’t forget pond scum from Albania and South America

Think of all the taco restaurants they could have


Britain and the USA are great examples of what happens when you are forced to open your borders

Diversity was first used in having a workplace that reflected the population.

Immigration policy is totally a different topic

I was surprised thst so many companies told Trump how beneficial it was for them when they submitted responses to one of his policies..

If we're talking about employment, being diverse for the sake of being diverse is retarded.

Hire the best people for the job, if it happens to be 10 white guys then who cares, if it happens to be 3 white guys 2 black women 3 asian guys 1 indian guy and 1 mexican woman then also who cares.

For immigration, people need to be able to assimilate into whatever country they go to, if an American moved to Japan he would need to get used to and adjust to the customs over there, the country isn't going to cater to him. People need to do the same when they come to the US or Canada.

Apparently a good percentage of liberals hate Jews.

Libs always preach diversity, but they lie and they will scortch the earth to flame anyone of any race who does not kneel to their fukked up beliefs. So, libs are not so diverse.

this is the equivalent of whose more special in the special olympics. both use diversity when it benefits them in an argument or an issue.

Usually liberals are 180 degrees out from being on the correct side of any given topic.

I really don't believe there is such a thing as a liberal or conservative. Political parties are just groups of special interests. What does abortion beliefs have to do low taxes beliefs?

Nothing wrong with diversity (Although I honestly feel it's a nice way of saying anti white lol) but it should never supersede merit. Take a look at the recent Silicone Valley Bank collapse...

I am not sure what the conservative perspective on diversity is tbh.

In employment - merit based is obviously correct. So conservatives are right there.

For society at large. Diversity is a great thing as long as it is in the idea of a minority seeking to become a part of the majority. Any time you have a group of people collate together and make their own segregated communities you are fractioning unit cohesion.

Well it goes further than that, because you have all of these "minorities" (no not ALL) getting brainwashed into how bad, evil, oppressive, etc. Whitey is.

Even back in Biblical times this was discussed "A house divided cannot stand" - Matthew [insert numbers].

Anybody who says diversity is great right now is lying. The melting pot social experiment has ended in failure, everyone is getting more tribal than ever.

An actual blend of cultures with people from different walks of life, different ethnic backgrounds, and different opinions respecting and embracing each other?
Great.

Totalitarian Marxism demanding retribution for cherry-picked history that conveniently ignores the fact it caused multiple mass murders and genocides in the past century?
Horrible.

You expect whites to start doing manual labor for cheap?