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12-18-2023, 10:26 AM
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I just don't get why a grown man like op is so obsessed about an older grown man that he constantly has to create threads trying to bait others. And when other people address this issue to him, he will deflect, troll, or all of the above. Seems like it's just an unhealthy obsession by a mentally ill man.
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12-18-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Obama was the one who dropped rates to zero and held them there to give the illusion of an economic recovery… what could possibly go wrong?Yup, basically begging the Fed not to increase interest rates in order to maintain the stock market [And that was pre-pandemic]. LMAO
But your gripe is trump complaining about the rate of rising rates? Especially when we were dealing with currency manipulators like China.
12-18-2023, 10:51 AM
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12-18-2023, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
Was the federal interest rate higher when Obama left office in January 2017 or when Trump left office in January 2021? Do a little research and get back to me. BTW: Which president was begging the fed to reduce interest rates while proclaiming we had "The greatest economy EVER!"Obama was the one who dropped rates to zero and held them there to give the illusion of an economic recovery… what could possibly go wrong?
But your gripe is trump complaining about the rate of rising rates? Especially when we were dealing with currency manipulators like China.
But your gripe is trump complaining about the rate of rising rates? Especially when we were dealing with currency manipulators like China.

12-18-2023, 11:16 AM
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Crazy. I want to get a big corned beef to glaze for Xmas eve. That is up 80% per lb at Publix compared to trump.
The pandemic disruptions are largely to blame. Ducky indeed. I just believe the blame is on those who unleashed that in the first place rather than Trump mishandling it after they did. He didn’t take it seriously at first and I think it was Feb - March 2020 he even thought it was nothing that it would be gone within a few weeks. He said he took the vax. So did Fauci, Nancy, Hillary, chucky, Kamala, psaki, etc most if not all the latter of whom are not really vaxxed at all. It’s a “do what we say not what we do” lie. Biden’s regime have proven if there’s another pandemic they will fight to mandate a vaccine for it. Trump would not. Even though it’s said trump got it for Covid. Don’t know if true. I don’t trust anybody right now!
The pandemic disruptions are largely to blame. Ducky indeed. I just believe the blame is on those who unleashed that in the first place rather than Trump mishandling it after they did. He didn’t take it seriously at first and I think it was Feb - March 2020 he even thought it was nothing that it would be gone within a few weeks. He said he took the vax. So did Fauci, Nancy, Hillary, chucky, Kamala, psaki, etc most if not all the latter of whom are not really vaxxed at all. It’s a “do what we say not what we do” lie. Biden’s regime have proven if there’s another pandemic they will fight to mandate a vaccine for it. Trump would not. Even though it’s said trump got it for Covid. Don’t know if true. I don’t trust anybody right now!
12-18-2023, 11:28 AM
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12-18-2023, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
The entire reason Trump was elected was because the economy under obama was trash and people wanted a change.Was the federal interest rate higher when Obama left office in January 2017 or when Trump left office in January 2021? Do a little research and get back to me. BTW: Which president was begging the fed to reduce interest rates while proclaiming we had "The greatest economy EVER!"

Obama and crew famously said that trump "couldn't just wave a magic wand." All economic projections were sharply downward as Trump took office. Then, after implementing his policies, the economy took off. And that was even with playing the long game with China and hurting things short term due to sanctions. As soon as the economy started turning around, the fed instantly started jacking up rates at a fast clip. His complaint wasn't that they were raising rates at all, it was the rate that they were raising them was doing more harm than good.
Then a pandemic happened so all comparison is lost.
Not sure this is the hill you want to die on...
12-18-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
Correction: Trump's handling of the pandemic was a disaster. From claiming it wasn't a big deal to privately doing an interview claiming it was a big deal, to telling Georgia they shouldn't re-open because of how severe the pandemic was. No consistent messaging and throwing trillions of dollars at the problem while constantly flip flopping on how problematic it was. Talk about great leadership.The entire reason Trump was elected was because the economy under obama was trash and people wanted a change.
Obama and crew famously said that trump "couldn't just wave a magic wand." All economic projections were sharply downward as Trump took office. Then, after implementing his policies, the economy took off. And that was even with playing the long game with China and hurting things short term due to sanctions. As soon as the economy started turning around, the fed instantly started jacking up rates at a fast clip. His complaint wasn't that they were raising rates at all, it was the rate that they were raising them was doing more harm than good.
Then a pandemic happened so all comparison is lost.
Not sure this is the hill you want to die on...
Obama and crew famously said that trump "couldn't just wave a magic wand." All economic projections were sharply downward as Trump took office. Then, after implementing his policies, the economy took off. And that was even with playing the long game with China and hurting things short term due to sanctions. As soon as the economy started turning around, the fed instantly started jacking up rates at a fast clip. His complaint wasn't that they were raising rates at all, it was the rate that they were raising them was doing more harm than good.
Then a pandemic happened so all comparison is lost.
Not sure this is the hill you want to die on...
It's hilarious you guys downplayed the severity of the pandemic while simultaneously blaming it for Trump having a ****ty economy at the end of his presidency.
By the way, you dodged the question. How telling. But but but OBAMA!

12-18-2023, 12:09 PM
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12-18-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin⏩
You need to be more specific. This applies to at least two people in this thread.
12-18-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Oh no, the inconsistent messaging!Correction: Trump's handling of the pandemic was a disaster. From claiming it wasn't a big deal to privately doing an interview claiming it was a big deal, to telling Georgia they shouldn't re-open because of how severe the pandemic was. No consistent messaging and throwing trillions of dollars at the problem while constantly flip flopping on how problematic it was. Talk about great leadership.
It's hilarious you guys downplayed the severity of the pandemic while simultaneously blaming it for Trump having a ****ty economy at the end of his presidency.
By the way, you dodged the question. How telling. But but but OBAMA!
It's hilarious you guys downplayed the severity of the pandemic while simultaneously blaming it for Trump having a ****ty economy at the end of his presidency.
By the way, you dodged the question. How telling. But but but OBAMA!

12-18-2023, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
What's nolibs issue? I remember him doing this almost ten years ago now lolOP admittedly has some alcohol abuse issues and a lot of built up resentment. Whatever he's dealing with in life it's unfortunate that he can't find a more productive way to deal with his issues. You know the saying - hurt people hurt people.
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12-18-2023, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
By bringing up all the other issues which were mishandled on all sides of the fence, you yourself are downplaying the single biggest problem. PPP loans and govt bailouts. Fuk if we actually let SVB go down we might even have been able to let that be the sinking ship, but I have a feeling the only way that was a “systemic risk” is if Roku losing half a billion dollars actually meant some chit head hedgefund was about to pop the derivative bubble.Correction: Trump's handling of the pandemic was a disaster. From claiming it wasn't a big deal to privately doing an interview claiming it was a big deal, to telling Georgia they shouldn't re-open because of how severe the pandemic was. No consistent messaging and throwing trillions of dollars at the problem while constantly flip flopping on how problematic it was. Talk about great leadership.
It's hilarious you guys downplayed the severity of the pandemic while simultaneously blaming it for Trump having a ****ty economy at the end of his presidency.
By the way, you dodged the question. How telling. But but but OBAMA!
It's hilarious you guys downplayed the severity of the pandemic while simultaneously blaming it for Trump having a ****ty economy at the end of his presidency.
By the way, you dodged the question. How telling. But but but OBAMA!

Fact is the derivative bubble is the single largest economic danger to the world, people forget Covid came out right during GME and meme stock run which was fukking hedgefunds and about to send out major fukking margin calls. People forget archgaeos and how regulators were letting 100x leverages off shady derivatives slide.
Massive printing press action, free capitalization for everyone to spend spend, businesses making money from enfranchised consumers and getting free loans, while actual production ground to a halt. Now they aren’t even letting a recession happen? Pumping hundreds of billions and sending chit hyper while declaring systemic risk for any hiccup.
People really need to wake the fuk up.
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12-19-2023, 11:10 AM
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Sorry forgot all the shills abandon ship whenever the derivative bubble gets brought up.
Always wonder why the CT on Covid being released cuz of financial collapse and used as a can kick never takes off. Literally benefitted every major govt and staved off their own issues from Hong Kong riots to Wall Street margin calls.
Always wonder why the CT on Covid being released cuz of financial collapse and used as a can kick never takes off. Literally benefitted every major govt and staved off their own issues from Hong Kong riots to Wall Street margin calls.
12-19-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
So Trump should have carte blanche to commit whatever crimes he wants? Definitely not a cult...Here’s the thing boyo. When prosecuting the leader of political oppositions. If it’s not a clean cut “he stole this or did this”. And it’s superfluous nonsense that is very much a partisan issue with federal agencies weaponized against political rivals. And you are using the courts to eliminate a political rival.
It makes you a fukking banana republic.
Super dead fukking serious, this the chit America used to make fun of china and Russia over. You fgts are starting to sound like Putin apologists.
“Some people just get shot or fall out windows”. Going to be your lines in a few years.
It makes you a fukking banana republic.
Super dead fukking serious, this the chit America used to make fun of china and Russia over. You fgts are starting to sound like Putin apologists.
“Some people just get shot or fall out windows”. Going to be your lines in a few years.
12-19-2023, 11:31 AM
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12-19-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Are you illiterate? Disingenuous? Or delusional?So Trump should have carte blanche to commit whatever crimes he wants? Definitely not a cult...
I clearly hold trump at fault for much more then this nonsense that gets paraded in the media.
12-19-2023, 05:33 PM
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Trump should be afforded the same rights and protections from illegitimate prosecution as any citizen. Unfortunately our justice system has gotten very comfortable trampling peoples' rights and that goes double for anyone that opposes the establishment. Couldnt thank you commie fascists more for putting this on full display via trump
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Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩
"We had to wait until campaign time so we could imprison our political opponent so he can't campaign in order to save democracy. Since this isn't working, now we need joe to send in Seal Team 6 in order to ensure democracy is saved!!1!"So they wait two and a half years to lay charges but complain that the trial isn't moving fast enough.


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