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post 1695944513 01-05-2024, 11:47 PM
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one thing ive never understood about anti free speechers is, why would you want to silence the enemy?


brb if the us really is full of nazis(which it isnt) youve now got a bunch off under the radar covert nazis on the loose.
post 1695944623 01-05-2024, 11:52 PM
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What's there to reconcile?

Freedom of speech is a right, up to and including being offensive.
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Originally Posted By Smob3⏩
What's there to reconcile?

Freedom of speech is a right, up to and including being offensive.
So saying and calling a black guy the N word is okay?
post 1695944873 01-06-2024, 12:01 AM
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It’s all or nothing. If you give an inch, they’ll take a mile. The question always becomes who gets to decide? The individuals that think they are best suited to decide are usually the ones you don’t want deciding. So, you have to take the bad in order to maintain the good.

On a final note, free speech is always best. If you allow all speech, the bad ideas and speech will always get drown out. The quote by Mises speaks volvumes; “Socialism largely succeeds in its establishment because all opposing views are outlawed”. In other words, the people who want to shut down any speech at all are always the bad guys.
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post 1695944933 01-06-2024, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted By 2style⏩
So saying and calling a black guy the N word is okay?
yes. the inverse is racist. non blacks cannot say a word because of the colour of their skin. nobody sees it because we live in a world of grown adult professional victims

in actuality were not even saying words merely making noises. by disallowing certain speech you are controlling ones body.
post 1695944973 01-06-2024, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted By 2style⏩
So saying and calling a black guy the N word is okay?
It should be. Why is that word the only word outlawed? Since it’s outlawed, doesn’t it carry a much heavier weight when said? If it were used the same amount as cracker, it wouldn’t have the same impact. Call a white person cracker, then call a black person the N word…you won’t get the same reaction. We get desensitized from the use of words.

Think about it. Even in a discussion, in which the word isn’t even being used against someone, it’s still outlawed. FYI, we don’t have free speech in this case, considering a white person can’t say it in an intellectual discussion. If white’s can’t say it, then no one can. This is unequal treatment and is fundamentally racist.
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post 1695945393 01-06-2024, 12:32 AM
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Slander is piss.
Be offensive as you like, as long as it's honest. Just fuk anyone who can't handle the truth.
post 1695945483 01-06-2024, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted By BespokenBrah⏩
In cuckstralia they arrest you if CCP orders it. LMAO!
Don’t go on any guided tours of the capital building

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post 1695945943 01-06-2024, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted By 2style⏩
So saying and calling a black guy the N word is okay?
Yes. Cry about it
post 1695946793 01-06-2024, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted By RIPTheWest⏩
one thing ive never understood about anti free speechers is, why would you want to silence the enemy?


brb if the us really is full of nazis(which it isnt) youve now got a bunch off under the radar covert nazis on the loose.
Preventing them from gathering hinders their ability to actually do anything. America has a surprising number of fascists. But what makes me happy is it also has a surprising number of socialists, and there are more of us than the nazis.
post 1695946823 01-06-2024, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
It should be. Why is that word the only word outlawed? Since it’s outlawed, doesn’t it carry a much heavier weight when said? If it were used the same amount as cracker, it wouldn’t have the same impact. Call a white person cracker, then call a black person the N word…you won’t get the same reaction. We get desensitized from the use of words.

Think about it. Even in a discussion, in which the word isn’t even being used against someone, it’s still outlawed. FYI, we don’t have free speech in this case, considering a white person can’t say it in an intellectual discussion. If white’s can’t say it, then no one can. This is unequal treatment and is fundamentally racist.
lmfao this white boy is really upset he can't say the n word without social consequences. It's rAcIsM. Surely this is equivalent to slavery, being 3/5 of a person, segregation, redlining, etc.


Bbbut von mises said....
post 1695946843 01-06-2024, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By commiedian⏩
lmfao this white boy is really upset he can't say the n word without social consequences. It's rAcIsM. Surely this is equivalent to slavery, being 3/5 of a person, segregation, redlining, etc.


Bbbut von mises said....
This has to be Wincel.
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post 1695946923 01-06-2024, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted By 2style⏩
So saying and calling a black guy the N word is okay?
They usually deserve it
post 1695948183 01-06-2024, 04:35 AM
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only in this clown world would we be debating the value of freedom of speech and its extent.
post 1695948403 01-06-2024, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
Pretty simple, really:

LMFAO! I love it! but really what hes doing is disorderly conduct and can go to jail for that. Thats the secret weapon people use against the 1rst ammendment. Disorderly conduct. It usaully gets thrown out but ive seen dozens of people get arrested for this chit. There one fat incel that does this on youtube. tries to trigger people at rallies and gets arrested. Gets thrown out but its lame to sit in jail just for views
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
This has to be Wincel.
well yeah duh! you can smell this ph@ggot a mile away
post 1695948503 01-06-2024, 04:50 AM
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I only know the MSN side of the story but if someone like Alex Jones says that Sandy Hook was staged so his supporters give the parents of the dead kids death threats and shoot at their houses, then that’s crossing the line of freedom of speech as it’s resulting in harm to others.

I can only imagine as a parent what it would be like to already go through hell and then have a bunch of people threatening you over a “staged” massacre?

That’s one of the craziest conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
I only know the MSN side of the story but if someone like Alex Jones says that Sandy Hook was staged so his supporters give the parents of the dead kids death threats and shoot at their houses, then that’s crossing the line of freedom of speech as it’s resulting in harm to others.

I can only imagine as a parent what it would be like to already go through hell and then have a bunch of people threatening you over a “staged” massacre?

That’s one of the craziest conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard.
Yep. Perfect example is Alex Jones. He's a guy whose bs has very little intellectual value and often harms people. He deserved to be punished for his defamatory comments.
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Originally Posted By 2style⏩
So saying and calling a black guy the N word is okay?
depends, is he being one
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Originally Posted By commiedian⏩
I am generally ok with free speech, but I disapprove of speech that has zero intellectual value. If some dude just screams racial slurs with no other message, I don't care if he is censored.
I think majority of people auto-regulate the tribe when this happens. Most people with disapprove this and ostracize the individual in one way or another.


That is why I support uncensored speech with the exclusion of calling for an illegal action against some entity.
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Originally Posted By BespokenBrah⏩
In cuckstralia they arrest you if CCP orders it. LMAO!
No they don't. They just harass Chinese/HongKongnese nationals who talk trash against the ChinaGov.

Bad look for the Aussie gov not cracking down hard on unofficial police stations though.
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Freedom of speech and offend anyone, I don't give a fuk
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
I only know the MSN side of the story but if someone like Alex Jones says that Sandy Hook was staged so his supporters give the parents of the dead kids death threats and shoot at their houses, then that’s crossing the line of freedom of speech as it’s resulting in harm to others.

I can only imagine as a parent what it would be like to already go through hell and then have a bunch of people threatening you over a “staged” massacre?

That’s one of the craziest conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard.
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freedom of speech is the inherent right to be offensive and offend people if you wish
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The first amendment was intended to protect speech that hurt peoples feelings.

People just need to deal with it.

It doesn't mean you can say whatever you want without consequence. People seem to think thats what it means but it doesnt.

if you call someone a derogatory term and they dont like it, they dont just have to sit there and take it. Consequences exist.
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If there's one consistency throughout human existence, it's that the people who are the most easily offended are always the greatest offenders irl.
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Freedom 100%. Who cares if something is offensive to someone? EVERYTHING is.

If I don't like what I hear, I'll remove myself from listening. Now if someone is screaming in my face or some other over the line thing, then that is a different issue. But the speech itself can't hurt me if I don't let it.
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