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post 1697974663 02-17-2024, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted By AWillis
if the jab is safe and effective. and almost all people got it. nobody now should be having random heart attacks. but they are up in record numbers post covid. and not everybody caught covid.

lol at jabcells defending taking an experimental drug that has essentially fked over their body and immune system going forward in life
LMFAO.

The unvaxxed were died quite bigly vs the vaxxed and the anti-science unvaxxed spent TONS more time in need of acute medical care than we science believers.

Facts not feelz boyo.
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post 1697974683 02-17-2024, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Not saying that. All vaccines have a tiny element of adverse reactions. Are you saying that the jabs caused a massive increase in heart issues?
I’m saying the injections are contributing to the increase in a substantial way.








https://www.unibas.ch/en/News-Events...ccination.html



We recorded elevated cardiac troponin levels in a higher percentage of vaccinated individuals than expected. From the previous passive observation of severe cases, it had been concluded that around 35 out of 1,000,000 vaccinated individuals would develop myocarditis. In our study, we found evidence of temporary mild damage to cardiac cells in 22 of the 777 participants – 2.8% instead of the anticipated 0.0035%. So there’s slight damage to heart muscle cells in almost 3% of the cases, which shouldn’t be overestimated, but also not ignored.
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Originally Posted By AWillis
if the jab is safe and effective. and almost all people got it. nobody now should be having random heart attacks. but they are up in record numbers post covid. and not everybody caught covid.

lol at jabcells defending taking an experimental drug that has essentially fked over their body and immune system going forward in life
My worry is that the long-term effects are still unknown. Most of the people I know took that garbage. Glad I steered clear of it.
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post 1697974783 02-17-2024, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I’m saying the injections are contributing to the increase in a substantial way.








https://www.unibas.ch/en/News-Events...ccination.html



We recorded elevated cardiac troponin levels in a higher percentage of vaccinated individuals than expected. From the previous passive observation of severe cases, it had been concluded that around 35 out of 1,000,000 vaccinated individuals would develop myocarditis. In our study, we found evidence of temporary mild damage to cardiac cells in 22 of the 777 participants – 2.8% instead of the anticipated 0.0035%. So there’s slight damage to heart muscle cells in almost 3% of the cases, which shouldn’t be overestimated, but also not ignored.
First 777 people is not a statistically relevant sample size when you talking about the hundreds of millions jabbed.

But more importantly from your very study "I have to emphasize that this is a mild effect. Symptoms include shortness of breath, fatigue and possibly pressure on the chest, but as I said, they are rather mild and non-specific. We performed further investigation in the study participants with elevated cardiac troponin levels. On the following day, Day 4 after vaccination, cardiac troponin values were back in the normal range in around half of the 22 affected individuals. This marker is extremely sensitive – with other methods such as MRI we wouldn’t have been able to detect any damage to the cardiac muscle, as it only becomes visible once the damage there is about three to five times greater."

So basically no real impact to cardiac function from the jab.
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post 1697974863 02-17-2024, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
First 777 people is not a statistically relevant sample size when you talking about the hundreds of millions jabbed.

But more importantly from your very study "I have to emphasize that this is a mild effect. Symptoms include shortness of breath, fatigue and possibly pressure on the chest, but as I said, they are rather mild and non-specific. We performed further investigation in the study participants with elevated cardiac troponin levels. On the following day, Day 4 after vaccination, cardiac troponin values were back in the normal range in around half of the 22 affected individuals. This marker is extremely sensitive – with other methods such as MRI we wouldn’t have been able to detect any damage to the cardiac muscle, as it only becomes visible once the damage there is about three to five times greater."

So basically no real impact to cardiac function from the jab.
You’ve gone from “there is no increase in heart problems”


To

Well there is an increase but it’s all from the virus itself because the injections don’t cause meaningful problems


To

Well the injections damage the heart but not in a way that’s bad enough to cause issues





I think we can just stop here because you obviously are just gonna refuse to change your mind, and continue to move goalposts.
post 1697974893 02-17-2024, 06:14 AM
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don't forget the turbo cancers....................and the embalmers all over the western world finding previouly unseen huge fibrous clots in bodies they are preparing ......since the jab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLl69c46JK0
post 1697975443 02-17-2024, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
The government is telling us there’s nothing to see here ,but the insurance companies are like hold on here a minute and look at our payouts the last two years you lying fk’s.

Srs if I was young there’s no fk’ng way I’d get vaxxed . I’m old and my life sucks, so in my case I could care if I dropped dead after this post .
But if I was young and had no choice but to get vaxxed , I’d stay away from anything that would stress my heart ,especially running marathons etc, as you’re just asking for it imo .
i have never felt good physiologically from running long distances

psychologically, sure. It was a good feeling because I felt accomplished

running long distance is always followed by chitty sleep, headaches, brain fog

i could do HIIT running tho like sprints

those feel good
post 1697975613 02-17-2024, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted By AWillis
if the jab is safe and effective. and almost all people got it. nobody now should be having random heart attacks.
strongest logic I have ever seen
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Originally Posted By kusok
Some crazy ****, former client of mine just had his young, healthy, mid 50s father die from a heart attack,

and my wife’s coworker lost her husband and her son, both to heart attack, neither one was older, fat, nor had any history of heart attack in the family,

Dis shiet for real???

Srs
So... two examples is "dropping like flies"? What are the actual heart attack statistics?
post 1697975723 02-17-2024, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted By BalognaNbeans
Safe & effective Jack
Stupidest statement ever, to claim heart attacks are safe and effective
post 1697975773 02-17-2024, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
lmfao @ "turbo cancer"

literally not a thing
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10184721/


73-year-old female with a past medical history of hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and renal angiomyolipoma status post resection in 2019 presented with worsening right upper arm swelling for the past two weeks.She noticed the initial swelling two to four days after receiving her second dose of the Moderna vaccine within 1 cm from the prior injection site. This was initially attributed to phlebitis. She reported mild, non-radiating pain on palpation. Vitals were unremarkable and the patient was afebrile. Physical examination was remarkable for a 6 cm, circular, mobile, soft mass present in the right upper arm without fluctuance, erythema, or warmth.

The patient was advised to obtain an MRI with and without contrast, which revealed a 5.2 cm soft tissue mass within the subcutaneous fat, overlying the triceps region, with irregular features concerning for malignancy (Figure ​(Figure1).1). A subsequent ultrasound-guided core biopsy with fine needle aspiration (FNA) was performed.

Given the cytomorphology and immunophenotypic features, the patient was diagnosed as having grade 3, stage IIIA undifferentiated, pleomorphic high-grade sarcoma. She was then started on adjuvant radiation therapy after surgery with full recovery and no recurrence to date.



A grade 3, stage IIIA undifferentiated, pleomorphic high-grade sarcoma is a type of soft tissue cancer that is characterized by its high grade and stage of advancement.
post 1697975933 02-17-2024, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok
I must say I very specifically notice that people did NOT drop from heart attacks before all this. Not nearly at this rate.
Seriously false claim...

"Cardiovascular disease-related deaths jumped from 874,613 in 2019 to 928,741 in 2020, the largest single-year increase since 2015, according to the 2023 update to AHA's heart disease and stroke statistics, which was published Wednesday in Circulation. The number of deaths surpassed the previous high of 910,000 in 2003."
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2023/0...id-19-pandemic
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that is awful. That is much to young to pass away from a heart attack.

It was a couple years ago that a guy, with the same last name as me, who I had met and was the same age as me, passed away suddenly from a heart attack. He was president of a small bank with two young kids who liked to come into our back yard to play. I always have felt bad for the kids, having to grow up without a dad.

I just finished reading yesterday Dr. NO's book (Dr. Louis Ignarro) on nitric oxide and how it has been found beneficial at helping to prevent heart attacks. The doctor is best known for his research that led to the creation of Viagra. His research also showed NO can help prevent a heart attack.

Viagra and Heart Health: Why Taking ED Drugs May Help Extend Your Life Too

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...cular%20events.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
There are a number of reasons why that could happen to someone, jtaylor, and you still haven't explained what "turbo cancer" is. (There is no such thing as "turbo cancer". Cancer is cancer.) Again, a causal link between vaccination and cancer has not been shown, and this is after billions have been vaccinated.
She noticed the initial swelling two to four days after receiving her second dose of the Moderna vaccine within 1 cm from the prior injection site.


Based on an extensive search, we describe the first case of rapidly progressive, high-grade undifferentiated sarcoma that seems to have a strong association with the Moderna vaccination.


It is well established that other vaccines may lead to the formation of subcutaneous nodules, particularly in children after the administration of the pertussis vaccine [9]. A review of the literature shows a recent case report that describes the development of a soft tissue mass shortly after the administration of a COVID-19 vaccine. A soft tissue growth with malignant characteristics was found to be developed shortly after administration of the COVID-19 Moderna vaccine with MRI. Pathological analysis subsequently demonstrated non-necrotizing granulomatous inflammation without evidence of neoplasia. This case reported the development of a localized granulomatous reaction that presented as a mass following the COVID-19 Moderna booster vaccine that resolved spontaneously without any medical intervention [10].

Although a non-malignant growth has been reported as a rare complication of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, it is important to consider other unique complications that may be implicated. It is well-documented in the literature for over 20 years that high-grade sarcomas have been linked to vaccine administration in felines [11]. Although these occurrences are uncommon, the development of such tumors is found to be iatrogenic [11]. Vaccination against rabies and feline leukemia virus is thought to be the most common inciting cause although the mechanism of action is poorly understood [11]. This study has also shown that the injection site sarcoma in these animals is extremely locally invasive and recurrence is common even with aggressive treatment [11]. More recently, case reports have indicated the development of high-grade sarcoma in canines as well, although rare when compared to feline cases [12].
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
Because people never randomly had heart attacks before, right? Maybe leave medicine and epidemiology to actual scientists, you uneducated neanderthal.
trust the "scientists" that admitted on video that they knew it didn't work before it was pushed across the globe?

how about "trust the science" where the science changed every 2 weeks?

what about trust fauci that in the 80s said you could catch aids from breathing in air from being in the same room as someone with aids

LMAO
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even this BLM supporters have more common sense than you




"VERY VERY VERY RARE CHANCE" - fauci

LMAO

imagine lining up for years to get boosters when THEY are laughing at you. good little complying sheeple

need a vaccination for something you don't even know you have until you are tested - using kits that output a high % of false positives
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post 1697976613 02-17-2024, 07:13 AM
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I have noticed as these types of threads proceed chronologically, there have been fewer and fewer pro-vaccine posts. I think some of you pro-vaxxers got a saline shot. Continue to get your boosters and in a couple years there will be no pro vaxxers posting in these threads.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
And now this is where you divert and say “oh it’s all because of the virus”. The fact is that it’s probably both, but lol at putting yourself st risk with a useless shot that doesn’t prevent covid(which may also increase risk). And then there’s also the possibility that injection and infection together compound the risk. A lot we aren’t certain about, but we are certain that the injections damage the heart.
lmao you predicted his response pretty accurately

leftists are as delusional as it gets
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
Maybe jtaylor should publish his revolutionary findings in the field of medicine that indicate the billions of us who took these shots are now going to die to this brand new "turbo cancer". Enjoy your Nobel prize, buddy.
Awesome strongman….l take your deflection as an apology.

Glad I could help you learn something today(srs).
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
Maybe jtaylor should publish his revolutionary findings in the field of medicine that indicate the billions of us who took these shots are now going to die to this brand new "turbo cancer". Enjoy your Nobel prize, buddy.
Pfizer are betting on it. they just over paid $42 billion on a turbo cancer company that barely makes a profit

remember you said to trust the scientists - little man
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
As for the bolded part of your post, can you share a link for that boyo?
The review of more than 8,000 reported cases from 46 studies by researchers in Canada confirms previous reports that myocarditis is rare, but cases are highest among young males shortly after a second dose, and are probably higher after Moderna’s mRNA vaccine than after Pfizer’s vaccine.

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As such they conclude: “As the covid-19 pandemic enters its third year, continued surveillance of myocarditis after mRNA vaccines, especially in younger ages, after dose three (and subsequent doses) and in previous cases is needed to support continued decision making for covid-19 boosters.”

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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Are you saying the injections don’t cause heart issues in anyone??
No one is denying that the vax is directly responsible for some cases. There are many scientific articles with many top tier scientists, who represent Yale Medicine and Cedar Sinai and are now openly claiming this.

However, do you know what is guaranteed to be retarded? Literally inarguably retarded?

Championing the notion that the vax with its spike protein can cause some serious damage whilst simultaneously denying that a Covid infection CANNOT cause any damage. Covid infection is payload of viral load much stronger in quantity of the SAME thing.

Honestly, there is no more retarded stance than this one.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
Oh wow the long con. LMFAO. I can't believe you people are serious.
are you some sort of retard?

you have the company you are defending spending billions on a future disease. after they have just injected everybody with a "test drug". they know more than you right?
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How do you know they are healthy?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
You’ve gone from “there is no increase in heart problems”


To

Well there is an increase but it’s all from the virus itself because the injections don’t cause meaningful problems


To

Well the injections damage the heart but not in a way that’s bad enough to cause issues





I think we can just stop here because you obviously are just gonna refuse to change your mind, and continue to move goalposts.
Boyo you're ignoring the findings are from a tiny sample that said what tiny % they found was not observable unless under high tech testing. That the impacts of their faulty study disappeared in a couple of days.

YOU claimed the jabs caused heart damage. YOU based that on a faulty, statistically insignificant study that itself admitted the findings were only observable under high tech imaging and disappeared in a few days.

So no friend, the jabs do not in any statistical relevant measure cause heart damage. Covid in fact does.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
lmfao holy fuk bro

yea dude pfizer is about to give billions of us turbo cancer and cash out

they'd totally get away with that

the long con

and you guys were the only ones to see it

a bunch of C students saw what millions of doctors and scientists could not

bravo!
Seriously. The misc is full of uneducated tradies who happen to all be infectious disease and vaccine experts.

Simply amazing.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
lmfao holy fuk bro

yea dude pfizer is about to give billions of us turbo cancer and cash out

they'd totally get away with that

the long con

and you guys were the only ones to see it

a bunch of C students saw what millions of doctors and scientists could not

bravo!
they've just got away with giving people heart attacks, strokes and death for a jab that was released 2 years ago

people are dumber than ever. they don't need a long con

it will be funny if and when this all happens though. what will be your excuses then
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
No one is denying that the vax is directly responsible for some cases. There are many scientific articles with many top tier scientists, who represent Yale Medicine and Cedar Sinai and are now openly claiming this.

However, do you know what is guaranteed to be retarded? Literally inarguably retarded?

Championing the notion that the vax with its spike protein can cause some serious damage whilst simultaneously denying that a Covid infection CANNOT cause any damage. Covid infection is payload of viral load much stronger in quantity of the SAME thing.

Honestly, there is no more retarded stance than this one.
Sure they can both cause damage. But there is also an aspect to the injection that you aren’t considering, while only pointing to the viral load.





"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Sure they can both cause damage. But there is also an aspect to the injection that you aren’t considering, while only pointing to the viral load.





"OK so when the vaccine, the so-called vaccine, the MRNA vaccine enters your body you have the nano particles coating this MRNA message. The lipid nanoparticles have no targeting mechanism in them they’re just dumb fatty interfaces, and that means that they will interface with any cell they encounter. Now different cells may have different affinities but there’s nothing that tells that lipid nanoparticle coat which cells to go into. And so when this leaks out of your deltoid or when it travels out of your deltoid in a blood vessel you now have these pseudo viruses effectively, a fatty coat with a gene message inside written in the language of MRNA. And it is going to be taken up by cells that it encounters haphazardly around the body. It gets into the cell, the cell translates, well actually this is RNA so it transcribes the message into protein. That protein, the spike protein, is then exported to the surface of the cell. It’s supposed to stick there, surely some of it does, but we now know some of it does not. Some of that spike circulates around. But the problem is you’ve now got a cell that is displaying the spike protein, and that’s according to the designers of this inoculation. The cell is displaying this protein, the body - the immune system looking at a cell in your body that is displaying your own proteins and foreign proteins and thinks it knows exactly what it’s looking at. The only thing that can be is a virally infected cell. And there's only one thing to do with a virally infected cell and that’s to destroy it. So we are programmed, our immune systems every day of the year are circulating looking for cells that are showing the signature of having been invaded by a virus and then it destroys them. Not because losing cells is OK, it’s not, it’s bad for you. But because it’s better than leaving a cell that has been captured by a virus producing more virus. Now if this happens, if you get injected and these things are circulating in your blood and they get taken up in your liver, a certain number of cells in your liver will then be destroyed by your immune system. It’s probably not a big deal because liver can replace itself at a very high rate. If it happens in your heart it’s an absolute disaster. And the reason it’s an absolute disaster is that your heart, reasons we can get into if you want, is not an organ that repairs itself. What it does instead is it scars. So you’ve got this mechanism where the failure of the vaccine either because nobody aspirated the syringe or because it was leaking out of the deltoid anyway is circulating in the body it gets taken up by cells. In some unlucky people those cells will be in the heart and when those cells in the heart do their job and transcribe this new message They will be attacked by the immune system and destroyed creating a wound in your heart. Now if you wait long enough that wound will hopefully scar over. It will diminish the capacity of the heart to do its job. And for people <Rogan interrupts and asks> “permanently?" Yeah absolutely. That’s the thing about the heart. I mean it is actually downstream of something as you know I studied a long time ago which is the trade off between tissue repair and senescence. And so the heart, one of its most amazing characteristics is that it doesn’t get cancer. But the cost of not getting cancers is that it doesn’t repair. It scars and that reduces the capacity of the heart to do the job that it does. "
Can you inform the group of your formal training in infectious diseases and vaccine development?

You sure seem to be an expert on the topic.
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Originally Posted By miscinformation
HAHAHAHAAHA sure bro, sure.
for 3 years on every media outlet you have been told -SAFE AND EFFECTIVE

for 3 fking years straight ... now you have people dropping dead. and of course nobody can put 2 and 2 together and it doesn't question their mind. they trusted what they were told

and any REAL DOCTORS were BANNED online.

thank fk Elon bought Twitter. because we'd still be hearing about this fking jab and booster 10 and there is a new variant. and trust the science and protect grandma

let alone the fking white house told everyone that was unjabbed that they can look forward to dying over Christmas. and the jabbies can celebrate knowing they are safe
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