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post 1698435263 02-27-2024, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
That could be possible. Do you think that if I offered to work for them as a consultant to ease some of their workload that they would be interested? Say I offered to work at a much lower rate.

However I have to admit, last time I interviewed for a job I got it within one interview. Same thing for the job I have now.

For some reason I've never actually had more than one round of interviews in my field.
It's worth a shot. They will be used to subcontracting out certain roles and just paying hourly for the work that needs doing is cheaper for them when they don't have a lot of work.

You've never worked for a large consultancy have you? Initial phone/zoom interview with HR, interview with line manager, presentation, rubberstamp by director/partner is more the norm.

Subcontracting is plug and play; they are a tool to do the job and you don't care about company fit etc. If their resume shows similar projects, they look and sound ok and you can charge them out at a profit, it's all good.
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post 1698435483 02-27-2024, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
It's worth a shot. They will be used to subcontracting out certain roles and just paying hourly for the work that needs doing is cheaper for them when they don't have a lot of work.

You've never worked for a large consultancy have you? Initial phone/zoom interview with HR, interview with line manager, presentation, rubberstamp by director/partner is more the norm.

Subcontracting is plug and play; they are a tool to do the job and you don't care about company fit etc. If their resume shows similar projects, they look and sound ok and you can charge them out at a profit, it's all good.
When you say large consultancy I'm not sure what you mean, but most of my career has been at an engineering consulting firm. We never had contractors, always did the work in house.

I'll give it a shot, but I think the recruiter will not want to help because I imagine he won't get his cut if I'm simply a consultant to the firm.
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post 1698436493 02-27-2024, 03:14 PM
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They are trying to keep you on the hook while continuing to shop.
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post 1698437073 02-27-2024, 03:26 PM
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200k isn't crazy high I don't think- if you are worth it. Idk why people are acting like that's outrageous when it's not for tech managers.

They are def looking for other people, but don't go down on price or accept anything less if you think you're worth it. If the company has big upside then $200k is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Problem is we are in a very bad tech down market and there's prob a million jobless tech people with your skillset so they can find someone else cheaper who is desperate.
post 1698437173 02-27-2024, 03:29 PM
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Scenario B is that they dont want to start paying you that salary until a new project starts and they do want you perhaps. Most likely they are shopping around of course
post 1698437303 02-27-2024, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Project Manager; but in reality it's an engineering role where I'm doing engineering work and managing other engineers. It struck me as more of an engineering manager / director level role that they were trying to downplay in order to pay less. They said that some of their engineers were working 12-16 hour days on occasion as well.
Interesting, I'm hunting for pretty much this exact job right now as well, what engineering discipline?

can you name the company? (or PM me)?
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post 1698437393 02-27-2024, 03:34 PM
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Put yourself in their position.

They are a tiny company with only 20 employees. They interviewed you and liked you - if they are about to invest 200k into your Miscing ass then they better have enough work for you.

Also, they are shopping around.
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post 1698437463 02-27-2024, 03:36 PM
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They don't want to pay you 195k per year obviously . You answered your own question , they're looking for someone cheaper.
post 1698437543 02-27-2024, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
What's the job title?

I find it really hard to believe that a company that small can afford that kind of salary.
I'm at the point where I don't believe a single fukin word miscers say about their wealth/income unless they're claiming to be broke lol
post 1698438823 02-27-2024, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By LiftBigEatBig⏩
Put yourself in their position.

They are a tiny company with only 20 employees. They interviewed you and liked you - if they are about to invest 200k into your Miscing ass then they better have enough work for you.

Also, they are shopping around.
Well to be fair, and I probably should've mentioned this - the recruiter said in the initial outreach that they can pay up to $200k, perhaps even higher for the right person.

I figured I was within their range so didn't think I was asking anything unreasonable.
Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
200k isn't crazy high I don't think- if you are worth it. Idk why people are acting like that's outrageous when it's not for tech managers.

They are def looking for other people, but don't go down on price or accept anything less if you think you're worth it. If the company has big upside then $200k is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Problem is we are in a very bad tech down market and there's prob a million jobless tech people with your skillset so they can find someone else cheaper who is desperate.
It's not tech though, it's old school traditional engineering.
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