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03-07-2024, 09:53 AM
#31
Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
If you don't go to church and don't tithe you aren't religious. You're just an idiot who read a book full of fairy tales. Being part of a religion means active participation. Just because you ride a motorcycle doesn't make you a hells angel.
Steal what? I paid $1 for the Bible that I believe from Genesis to Revelation. You dont have to go to church to be saved. You should go though, but I am ashamed to say that I haven't for a long time.
You basically have no reply to refute any point I made. The evidence? To me it's absolutely everything that exists had to have a Creator just like everything that's man made.
There's just no refuting that and it makes you seethe
Please, go on, refute my main point.
You basically have no reply to refute any point I made. The evidence? To me it's absolutely everything that exists had to have a Creator just like everything that's man made.
There's just no refuting that and it makes you seethe
Please, go on, refute my main point.
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03-07-2024, 09:57 AM
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it is the best one and im a jew telling you this.
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herzl's original vision for israel was for all the jews to convert to christianty srs
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03-07-2024, 10:31 AM
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is Reece witherspoon the one that plays Bridget Jones? cause I never remember her being that hot wow
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03-07-2024, 11:14 AM
#34
Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
Not an argument. As usual.
If you don't go to church and don't tithe you aren't religious. You're just an idiot who read a book full of fairy tales. Being part of a religion means active participation. Just because you ride a motorcycle doesn't make you a hells angel.
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
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03-07-2024, 11:17 AM
#35
Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
And not biblical in the least.
Not an argument. As usual.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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03-07-2024, 11:20 AM
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If we followed the Torah and listened to God debt would be forgiven every 7 years.
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03-07-2024, 11:58 AM
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The problem was creating labels for religion which caused separation / disagreements / war
All main religions are similar and follow the same morals/principles that every human should inherently abide by…If we could somehow detach ourselves from the labels and stop trying to individualize ourselves things might be better
How anyone could deny some sort of creator blows my fukin mind
All main religions are similar and follow the same morals/principles that every human should inherently abide by…If we could somehow detach ourselves from the labels and stop trying to individualize ourselves things might be better
How anyone could deny some sort of creator blows my fukin mind
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03-07-2024, 12:01 PM
#38
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
It's pretty simple really.
How anyone could deny some sort of creator blows my fukin mind
1. There is no sky fairy.
2. Every word in your holy book is pure fiction and it's only purpose in being written was to take advantage of idiots.
03-07-2024, 12:19 PM
#39
If it was so great how come every Christian nation is allowing themselves to be overrun by communists? Islam doesn't play that **** at all.
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03-07-2024, 12:51 PM
#40
Originally Posted By C1SCO⏩
This is an illogical talking point. Communist take overs and totalitarianism are the result of a lack of Christians and God in a society. I’ve mentioned that already in this thread. References include Hayek’s Road to Serfdom and The Gulag Archipelago. Even Rothbard made a similar point when he stated that the ultra secular and “ultra scientific” replaces God with the divine right of the state. In other words, they treat government as God.
If it was so great how come every Christian nation is allowing themselves to be overrun by communists? Islam doesn't play that **** at all.
In these books, they describe events of old world religions (monks) and Protestant Christians being real trouble for extremist regimes. For example, one of the points that really stands out to me was that the women refused to turn on their husbands, and were willing to die to prevent the regimes from finding or interrogating them.
Marx knew this, and called for the elimination of Christianity.
Hitler sent his police battalions (essentially military) to slaughter Christians. Under Stalin, they went in to their homes in the middle of the night and gathered them up one by one by surprise and executed them.
So simply put, they were simply outnumbered by the collectivists.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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03-07-2024, 01:11 PM
#41
In Luke 12:33, Jesus commands his disciples to sell what they have and give alms, and in Luke 14:33 says that no one can be his disciple who has not forsaken all his possessions. Historians generally confirm the view that a form of communism was taught by Jesus and practised by the apostles.
03-07-2024, 01:23 PM
#42
Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
I understand what you’re saying, but to put Karl Marx and Christ in to the same box would be a critical error. To compare Marx’s communism with Christ’s “communism” would be a critical error. The communist wants you to believe that their ideal is the utopia, one worthy of Christ’s ideals, but the outcomes of Christ’s ideals and Marx’s will result in complete opposites. Marx’s conclusions were completely illogical and against human nature. It went against the laws of nature, or God’s laws.
In Luke 12:33, Jesus commands his disciples to sell what they have and give alms, and in Luke 14:33 says that no one can be his disciple who has not forsaken all his possessions. Historians generally confirm the view that a form of communism was taught by Jesus and practised by the apostles.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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03-07-2024, 01:34 PM
#43
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Okay but you're ignoring the millions of religious communes in existence. Pretty much every flavor of Christianity is a communist cult. The people in the cult just refuse to see it for what it is.
I understand what you’re saying, but to put Karl Marx and Christ in to the same box would be a critical error. To compare Marx’s communism with Christ’s “communism” would be a critical error. The communist wants you to believe that their ideal is the utopia, one worthy of Christ’s ideals, but the outcomes of Christ’s ideals and Marx’s will result in complete opposites. Marx’s conclusions were completely illogical and against human nature. It went against the laws of nature, or God’s laws.
03-07-2024, 01:41 PM
#44
Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Christians feed way more homeless than non Christians so there goes that theory
Because belief in sky daddy prevents people from taking responsibility for their own lives and actions
And instils in them a sense of justification in interfering with people’s lives based on their own, mostly retarded beliefs
It’s always about birth control, never about housing or feeding the homeless with these religious nuts
And instils in them a sense of justification in interfering with people’s lives based on their own, mostly retarded beliefs
It’s always about birth control, never about housing or feeding the homeless with these religious nuts
liberal atheists are the Worst of the Worst when it comes to values. They have none.
This is why they always believe in whatever is the current hype among their peers.
They adopt fake moral stances to fit in. In reality they have no hard stances on anything in life & their morals will morph into whatever is hip at the time.
When p3dophilia eventually becomes accepted in society they will be the first to defend their «sexuality».
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03-07-2024, 01:42 PM
#45
Originally Posted By 4everalone⏩
Yeah all those atheist priests are the ones getting caught diddling kids.
Christians feed way more homeless than non Christians so there goes that theory
liberal atheists are the Worst of the Worst when it comes to values. They have none.
This is why they always believe in whatever is the current hype among their peers.
They adopt fake moral stances to fit in. In reality they have no hard stances on anything in life & their morals will morph into whatever is hip at the time.
When p3dophilia eventually becomes accepted in society they will be the first to defend their «sexuality».
liberal atheists are the Worst of the Worst when it comes to values. They have none.
This is why they always believe in whatever is the current hype among their peers.
They adopt fake moral stances to fit in. In reality they have no hard stances on anything in life & their morals will morph into whatever is hip at the time.
When p3dophilia eventually becomes accepted in society they will be the first to defend their «sexuality».
Why do religitards always try to flip the script and accuse everyone else of something their church was founded on? Kiddie diddling is like the 11th commandment.
03-07-2024, 01:55 PM
#46
Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
Are you referring to enclaves like the Amish? Where like minded people with similar values, who may leave at any time, live and work together? The Amish are considered a commune, but is still not Marx's idea of communism. People own their own houses, although they help one another build them. People still own their own possessions, And people are free to live as individuals, free from coercion. They live a very primitive life, where they all conserve, preserve, and save. Maybe a few thousand people.
Okay but you're ignoring the millions of religious communes in existence. Pretty much every flavor of Christianity is a communist cult. The people in the cult just refuse to see it for what it is.
Communism in the sense that the communist wants, is attempting to get millions of people aligned with the same values, which will never work. That is exactly what causes the main conflict. The biggest social difference between Marxist communism and religious communism, is that religious communism encourages individualism. Mark communism is a collective, in which one or a few people dictate the values and decisions of the whole. In this regard, the Amish are more trial than collective
Communism is the result of collectivism. Collectivism does not allow for individualism or independent thought. Tribalism, or the other hand, allows for individualism and individual thought
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
03-07-2024, 02:23 PM
#47
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Communes like the mormons, the branch davidians, heavens gate, oneida community, peoples temple. There are thousands upon thousands of these moronic commie cultists out there. Yes the amish could be included in there but they aren't rabid communists or communalists like a lot of the whackos out there. There are also a lot of different amish sects. And yes they excommunicate their kids if they don't drink the kool-aid.
Are you referring to enclaves like the Amish? Where like minded people with similar values, who may leave at any time, live and work together? The Amish are considered a commune, but is still not Marx's idea of communism. People own their own houses, although they help one another build them. People still own their own possessions, And people are free to live as individuals, free from coercion. They live a very primitive life, where they all conserve, preserve, and save. Maybe a few thousand people.
Communism in the sense that the communist wants, is attempting to get millions of people aligned with the same values, which will never work. That is exactly what causes the main conflict. The biggest social difference between Marxist communism and religious communism, is that religious communism encourages individualism. Mark communism is a collective, in which one or a few people dictate the values and decisions of the whole. In this regard, the Amish are more trial than collective
Communism is the result of collectivism. Collectivism does not allow for individualism or independent thought. Tribalism, or the other hand, allows for individualism and individual thought
Communism in the sense that the communist wants, is attempting to get millions of people aligned with the same values, which will never work. That is exactly what causes the main conflict. The biggest social difference between Marxist communism and religious communism, is that religious communism encourages individualism. Mark communism is a collective, in which one or a few people dictate the values and decisions of the whole. In this regard, the Amish are more trial than collective
Communism is the result of collectivism. Collectivism does not allow for individualism or independent thought. Tribalism, or the other hand, allows for individualism and individual thought
03-07-2024, 02:39 PM
#48
Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
So your example is the fringe and what the media tells you?
Communes like the mormons, the branch davidians, heavens gate, oneida community, peoples temple. There are thousands upon thousands of these moronic commie cultists out there. Yes the amish could be included in there but they aren't rabid communists or communalists like a lot of the whackos out there. There are also a lot of different amish sects. And yes they excommunicate their kids if they don't drink the kool-aid.
I recommend steel manning your arguments. These are pretty weak. There are about 200m (60% of population) Christians living in the US today. There are about 6m Mormons in the US. I don’t even thikn those other groups reach 1m. That means, Mormons only make up 3% of the total population of Christians.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
03-07-2024, 02:55 PM
#49
Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
You are conflating the extreme
personal
generosity taught by Jesus with the "enforced generosity" of communism. Jesus tells you to give and expect nothing in return.
Communes like the mormons, the branch davidians, heavens gate, oneida community, peoples temple. There are thousands upon thousands of these moronic commie cultists out there. Yes the amish could be included in there but they aren't rabid communists or communalists like a lot of the whackos out there. There are also a lot of different amish sects. And yes they excommunicate their kids if they don't drink the kool-aid.
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03-07-2024, 03:06 PM
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I'm a Nhilist and I can honestly say it would and is the best religion…I don't hate religion…in fact I honestly believe anyone (ie typical psuedo intellectual non believers) who mocks a man's faith is succumbing to the lowest common denominator.
My only gripe with faith in general is that the only thing keeping you decent is the promise of a Devine reward…I don't believe in good and evil so when religious folks assume I'm lacking a moral compass then I simply bring up that fact.
My only gripe with faith in general is that the only thing keeping you decent is the promise of a Devine reward…I don't believe in good and evil so when religious folks assume I'm lacking a moral compass then I simply bring up that fact.
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