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03-22-2024, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By M0nsterB0y
Loved Dragon's Dogma 1 but lol at microtransactions in a $70 game



This is why studios like CDPR hold a special place in my heart. Releases game. That's it. No microtransactions whatsoever. Tons of freebies like free comic books, free digital art and booklet, free soundtrack, etc.
Items which you know other companies would have charged for.

CP77 released broken? We'll fix it and add tons off free items, features, and even missions (gigs) along the way. Even Witcher 1 and 2 are still getting updated nowadays (last patch was on Feb 28)


Also lol at Denuvo DRM for Dragon's Dogma 2. When will companies learn that gamers hate that **** and they'll still get rich even with piracy. Cyberpunk 2077 was cracked just hours after release and game still became a financial release which was even handicapped because of the controversial release. i.e. even with piracy, good games will still make a fuk ton of money. No need for Denuvo DRM.
These companies are so crazy when it comes to anti piracy. If you just make your game good people will buy it happily.

I could easily pirate games but I'm not a scumbag and the trouble of keeping up with cracks and patches via torrenting or whatever is sooooooo annoying. I will either pay for the game or not play it.
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03-22-2024, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By M0nsterB0y
Loved Dragon's Dogma 1 but lol at microtransactions in a $70 game



This is why studios like CDPR hold a special place in my heart. Releases game. That's it. No microtransactions whatsoever. Tons of freebies like free comic books, free digital art and booklet, free soundtrack, etc.
Items which you know other companies would have charged for.

CP77 released broken? We'll fix it and add tons off free items, features, and even missions (gigs) along the way. Even Witcher 1 and 2 are still getting updated nowadays (last patch was on Feb 28)


Also lol at Denuvo DRM for Dragon's Dogma 2. When will companies learn that gamers hate that **** and they'll still get rich even with piracy. Cyberpunk 2077 was cracked just hours after release and game still became a financial success which was even handicapped because of the controversial release. i.e. even with piracy, good games will still make a fuk ton of money. No need for Denuvo DRM.


We've reached fast travel mtx? oh my days.
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03-22-2024, 08:58 AM
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The microtransaction items being obtainable in-game is such a chit and scummy excuse for having microtransactions

In the interviews leading up to the release of the game, the devs said that they intentionally made fast-travel harder to have in order to encourage players to explore more. But now they're selling fast travel crystals. If that doesn't reek of scummy chit, I don't know what does.

They also don't understand that gamers don't like the thought of other players having the advantage over them through microtransactions. So yes, even though technically, these items can be obtained in-game, it's still very scummy to sell them as DLCs.

There's also the thought now that since they put these items up for sale, that their rarity or difficulty to obtain has been increased compared to how it would have been if they had not been put up for microtransactions.
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03-22-2024, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By M0nsterB0y
Loved Dragon's Dogma 1 but lol at microtransactions in a $70 game



This is why studios like CDPR hold a special place in my heart. Releases game. That's it. No microtransactions whatsoever. Tons of freebies like free comic books, free digital art and booklet, free soundtrack, etc.
Items which you know other companies would have charged for.

CP77 released broken? We'll fix it and add tons off free items, features, and even missions (gigs) along the way. Even Witcher 1 and 2 are still getting updated nowadays (last patch was on Feb 28)


Also lol at Denuvo DRM for Dragon's Dogma 2. When will companies learn that gamers hate that **** and they'll still get rich even with piracy. Cyberpunk 2077 was cracked just hours after release and game still became a financial success which was even handicapped because of the controversial release. i.e. even with piracy, good games will still make a fuk ton of money. No need for Denuvo DRM.
Yeah this is what makes the fast travel **** even worse..

They gaslit us on how it wasn't needed because the world was so great

Proceed to charge for it

Sure its 2$ that's nothing.. its the fkin principle.. but these dumb fuks don't get it

Its its not garbage micro transactions.. its garbage woke ideology being shoved down our throats in gaming/tv/movies nowdays
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03-22-2024, 10:42 AM
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Welp,sadly ,I was looking forward to this

They better make some major changes and or lower the price

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03-22-2024, 10:52 AM
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Mtx for a revive potion? Lmfaoooooooooo

So scummy they added this chit in a surprise patch after reviews came out. To add to that scum you also have to deal with disastrous performance across the board. Lol'd @ Dragon's smegma. Lol'd @ preordercels. Patient gamers always win.
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03-22-2024, 11:14 AM
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Pretty sure they might have made this game years ago and just decided to launch it now, it's fun enough and not being able to save scum and no hand holding on quests is part of the game but the jankyness and poor optimization is dated. A modernized dragons dogma would have been great though with better performance/graphics and probably co-op/multiplayer.
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03-22-2024, 11:17 AM
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There's no way to start a new playthrough right now so that if you're unhappy with the character you created, you can just go ahead and spend $2 to edit your character.


Jesus, this is one of the scummiest, if not the scummiest I've seen a game company act. Heard that by itself, the game is really good, but I don't think I'll be getting this game even if it goes on sale for 70% of the price which would still be expensive btw. I'm not gonna support this kind of company.
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03-22-2024, 11:22 AM
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Someone says Hellsdivers 2 has microtransactions,

why is no one mad about that??


I hadn't bought DD2 yet, but the microtransactions is a nonfactor, is moreso the gameplay.
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03-22-2024, 11:35 AM
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Someone says Hellsdivers 2 has microtransactions,

why is no one mad about that??


I hadn't bought DD2 yet, but the microtransactions is a nonfactor, is moreso the gameplay.
I don't play Helldivers 2 but I can already guess why no one is mad about that.

-It doesn't cost $70
-From what I've seen, it seems to be a game that is made for multiplayer and is a live service game.
-DG2 has live service functions but it's mainly a single-player game, so if you already have a $40 total of microtransactions in your store page, players (Rightfully so) will think that QoL in game was intentionally made hard so that players will be lead to microtransactions. the vid posted a few posts above explains and shows why the microtransactions in DG2 is so disgusting.
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03-22-2024, 11:37 AM
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Single player games shouldn't have any MTX even stuff like this game which are just time/grind savers, that's what cheat codes used to be for. I assume denuvo is also tanking performance too.

The game should have multiple character save slots though.
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03-22-2024, 12:17 PM
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Fkng lol at the pay to play even for basic bullchit.



Will not be buying this bull$hit.
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03-22-2024, 12:21 PM
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Absofukinglutelynot. This really isn't the best year for gaming.
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03-22-2024, 01:43 PM
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LMFAO at crying about micro transactions for items that you can get for free and easy minutes in game. Capcom has this in every game because you dinger half breeds pay them anyway
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03-22-2024, 01:46 PM
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Mtx for a revive potion? Lmfaoooooooooo

So scummy they added this chit in a surprise patch after reviews came out. To add to that scum you also have to deal with disastrous performance across the board. Lol'd @ Dragon's smegma. Lol'd @ preordercels. Patient gamers always win.
Top 1% of games according to critics lol. They always pull this move, send out a review version to critics that doesn't have microtransactions, only to add microtransactions after the reviews come out.

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03-22-2024, 01:49 PM
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No, because like Helldivers it just looks muddy and generic. Just no way i'm gonna put these on my screens tbh.
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No, because like Helldivers it just looks muddy and generic. Just no way i'm gonna put these on my screens tbh.
Yup. Throw in the insane microtransactions, & I’d say Dragon’s Smegma 2 encapsulates everything wrong with modern gaming.
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03-22-2024, 03:35 PM
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hard pass when half of the base features of a $77 dollar game is locked behind additional fees at launch
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Top 1% of games according to critics lol. They always pull this move, send out a review version to critics that doesn't have microtransactions, only to add microtransactions after the reviews come out.

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Yup. Throw in the insane microtransactions, & I’d say Dragon’s Smegma 2 encapsulates everything wrong with modern gaming.
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03-22-2024, 06:18 PM
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Fake news. 0 of the features are locked. Everything is available as part of playing the game. Only a complete dinger level retard would pay for any of it
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Fake news. 0 of the features are locked. Everything is available as part of playing the game. Only a complete dinger level retard would pay for any of it
Right now it's a bunch of noob items because everyone is a noob. You think they won't add epic items as the player base matures? Zero substance. Total cash grab. Save your money for Elden Ring DLC where you will get all your money's worth up front. Stay away from these loser micro ripoff publishers.
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03-22-2024, 07:14 PM
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Suspicions confirmed X10, fukk this game.

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It runs like complete chit on every system. Lol at thinking it's a PC thing, it's a poorly made game thing
It's a low standards thing.

Really, it's how the game is designed, so no one is escaping this idiocy :

"In Dragon's Dogma 2, a large amount of CPU usage is allocated to each character and dynamically calculates the impact of their physical presence in various environments. In certain situations where numerous characters appear simultaneously, the CPU usage can be very high and may affect the frame rate ," a Capcom representative told IGN. "We are aware that in such situations, settings that reduce GPU load may currently have a limited effect; however, we are looking into ways to improve performance in the future."


Or if anyone would even give a schit about such a stupid waste of processing, but it makes more sense that Capcom considers PC their primary platform. The only question is whether they were using and aiming for an i9-13900ks or 19-14900k during development.

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"We're looking at an option to allow players to restart the game"

I can't wrap my head around why they did that.

Even their supposed reasoning behind one save slot over "exploration" and "consequences" is retarded. Now with the microtransaction reveal, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they were more concerned with people somehow working out a loophole.

And just my own experience with Crapcom's retarded save systems, you damn well better not try to make a backup of your own save unless it's way the hell away from where they store them because you can brick the game's ability to save at all. I fortunately managed to fix it (monster hunter world) by uninstalling and reinstalling to a new drive, but it was an eye opener as to how their save system when combined with cloud saving can easily become seemingly FUBAR. If that isn't bad enough, while researching my own problem I saw the same exact error on consoles where the troubleshooting options are basically zero.

Back to Dragon's Smegma 2, they somehow managed to make it so you can accidentally delete your main save by loading from an inn save , so the whole "only one save" thing sounds like bullschit on their part.

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The microtransaction items being obtainable in-game is such a chit and scummy excuse for having microtransactions

In the interviews leading up to the release of the game, the devs said that they intentionally made fast-travel harder to have in order to encourage players to explore more. But now they're selling fast travel crystals. If that doesn't reek of scummy chit, I don't know what does.

They also don't understand that gamers don't like the thought of other players having the advantage over them through microtransactions. So yes, even though technically, these items can be obtained in-game, it's still very scummy to sell them as DLCs.

There's also the thought now that since they put these items up for sale, that their rarity or difficulty to obtain has been increased compared to how it would have been if they had not been put up for microtransactions.
The fast travel microtransaction gets even better:

The item in question that you're buying is only the fast travel point , but you still need to buy a "ferrystone" for 10,000 gold to use it.

Alongside the principle of the matter as Snootz said, there is also review outlets that won't adjust their scores, so this game deserves all the negative consumer reaction it's getting and then some. They only continue with these scummy practices because dopamine-starved, corporate simpanzees and leather lickers need to defend multi-million dollar companies and justify their own poor spending habits.
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03-23-2024, 04:20 AM
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Didn't expect Capcom to outdo Bethesda where they announced adding a working in game map as an upcoming new feature.

Now you can't even create a new save. In a single player game.

Maybe next they'll ask for money so you can access the options menu.
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Man,I'm itching to buy it

I just can't, gota wait and see if they pull an ea and say fu or a larian/ cdpr and quickly fix it

So fkn disappointed

Not only has pre ordering gone out the window

So has release day
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Man,I'm itching to buy it

I just can't, gota wait and see if they pull an ea and say fu or a larian/ cdpr and quickly fix it

So fkn disappointed

Not only has pre ordering gone out the window

So has release day
Can you give rise of the ronin or ghost of Tsushima a shot instead, please?
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Can you give rise of the ronin or ghost of Tsushima a shot instead, please?
Oh, ghost is on my shelf, hard copy ,was great

I always get hard copies of the games I think are worthy to collect

Ronin seems sketchy as well ATM
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Didn't expect Capcom to outdo Bethesda where they announced adding a working in game map as an upcoming new feature.

Now you can't even create a new save. In a single player game.

Maybe next they'll ask for money so you can access the options menu.
Related to below, but even Monster Hunter has three player slots.

I can understand for those type of games why you wouldn't want (or frankly even need) multiple "saves" per player slot because you could easily lose progress, same deal with a lot of single player RPGs that aren't Bethesda quick-save-and-genocide simulators.

But actually limiting the number of total saves in a game where they outright released an entirely separate character creator to play around with the possibilities is so mind-numbingly counterintuitive that it is difficult to discern whether it was sheer incompetence, malice, or some middle ground with their heads still firmly lodged up their asses.

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Man,I'm itching to buy it

I just can't, gota wait and see if they pull an ea and say fu or a larian/ cdpr and quickly fix it

So fkn disappointed

Not only has pre ordering gone out the window

So has release day
Surprisingly, Capcom hasn't fukked up Monster Hunter World/Iceborne yet. Schit, I'm make mods for it still practically out of spite.

Personally, and this is just conjecture, but if so much of the performance issues and possibly even something I've read relating to how the pawn system might work (e.g. fears of players gaming multiple profiles and pawns, pawns stored on servers, who knows), that is like the least interesting side of these types of games to me and not even worth so much BS.

I'm a simple man and just want a game where I get to kill big monsters at the end of the day.
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I can see why they added chit tons of micros. A lot of the gameplay loop has some very tedious parts.

BRB traveling to other side of map on ox-cart. Brb get attacked by 2 ogres that take 5 minutes to kill, brb its nighttime and skeletons are about.

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Damn for those of you who bought this game, how are you not even ashamed to post and out yourself as a potato
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