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03-21-2024, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By nrowles⏩
Good plan bro. Just realize that time is the resource you can never make back.I'd probably still take the job because it has let me achieve a lot financially but my plan is to do this 5 more years to pay off my house and have no debt. Then I should be able to find another job making 75% of what I do now per hours but less management duties and less hours/overtime.
03-21-2024, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
This is beautifully articulated and posted in a way that makes it easy for people to understand and action on. Nicely done bro.Whats ironic is most people would be happier making 55k a year running their own small business, owning a gym, etc. than making 3x that in a corporate grind. People make a lot of money in certain jobs they either hate or are indifferent to and then cope with expensive lifestyles that do nothing to make them happier. A working car and a house in a safe area are pre-requisits to happiness. A German engineered car or 2 extra bedrooms and designer furniture in your house 100% arent.
Happiness is derived from multiple things IMO but you need:
- health
- purpose / goals
- relationships (both sexual, friendships, community)
Its a simple equation. At a certain income, and it's lower than miscers probably think, more $$$ literally just means bigger numbers on a computer screen. Outside of something like financial independence and the freedom to pursue your own goals (which is very big milestone ill admit) it does nothing else to happiness
Happiness is derived from multiple things IMO but you need:
- health
- purpose / goals
- relationships (both sexual, friendships, community)
Its a simple equation. At a certain income, and it's lower than miscers probably think, more $$$ literally just means bigger numbers on a computer screen. Outside of something like financial independence and the freedom to pursue your own goals (which is very big milestone ill admit) it does nothing else to happiness
I believe even at the higher amounts......the formula you have laid out is pretty much the same. Your purpose and goals maybe change as you have more time to pursue things that actually bring you happiness.
03-21-2024, 11:38 AM
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More money = more options.
Those options give you a greater ability to be both happy and unhappy; you still have to make the right choices.
The real problem is that we don't control what makes us happy. Happiness is like horniness; some things make you horny and some don't. You get no say in it. People will look around at what seems to make other people happy and what the media/society tells them will make them happy and try to do that, but until they have that, they won't know if it actually makes them happy or not.
Happiness doesn't lie in getting what you think you want, but in wanting what you've got. You don't achieve it by ticking off a list, but rather just wake up one day and think "my life is good".
Those options give you a greater ability to be both happy and unhappy; you still have to make the right choices.
The real problem is that we don't control what makes us happy. Happiness is like horniness; some things make you horny and some don't. You get no say in it. People will look around at what seems to make other people happy and what the media/society tells them will make them happy and try to do that, but until they have that, they won't know if it actually makes them happy or not.
Happiness doesn't lie in getting what you think you want, but in wanting what you've got. You don't achieve it by ticking off a list, but rather just wake up one day and think "my life is good".
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03-21-2024, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Another great point. I had this conversation with my kids the other day on the way to a trip for their spring break. I basically explained this exact thing to them. What you want to try to achieve is a certain baseline frequency that is generally positive, curious, optimistic, etc. And that the highs and lows all come and go.....then used examples such as the upcoming trip to help them put things in perspective. Great pointYeh we adapt way too quickly to both positive and negative changes in circumstance. Money can provide boosts of short-term happiness, then you adapt and return to your baseline level.
03-21-2024, 02:27 PM
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OP, that's easy to say when you grew up in a time in American history of extreme wealth. Try telling the next gen of Americants being replaced by Gimmegrants that money wont make them happy when they become debt slaves to the Nosebergs.
The average citizen is becoming 2nd class, which means the below average citizen will be 3rd class. Money is becoming more important then ever, brah.
The average citizen is becoming 2nd class, which means the below average citizen will be 3rd class. Money is becoming more important then ever, brah.
03-21-2024, 02:37 PM
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Neg op on his sight for his not at all humble brag
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03-21-2024, 02:44 PM
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The saying means you cant go out and buy raw happiness. Meaning if you're very rich, you can still be sad.
But to imply that having money doesn't make happiness come quicker, faster, easier, and more abundantly, you are mistaken.
But to imply that having money doesn't make happiness come quicker, faster, easier, and more abundantly, you are mistaken.
03-21-2024, 02:59 PM
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if I could make my current wage passively I would be happy.
03-21-2024, 03:17 PM
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That's because money isn't real
03-21-2024, 03:38 PM
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Friends and family and romantic partners are the most important thing for happiness. Money doesn't MAKE you happy but it definitely ALLOWS you to be happier.
Money makes a BIG difference in most people's happiness, including my own.
Money makes a BIG difference in most people's happiness, including my own.
03-21-2024, 04:04 PM
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idk if I look at my top 3 problems in life rn, money could solve them
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03-21-2024, 04:05 PM
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sounds like cope from a LDAR'er
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03-21-2024, 04:06 PM
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03-21-2024, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
i am broke and happy - give me your money, i need itMoney does not buy happiness. I know this has been discussed over and over again.....and growing up I heard this many times. But I always just thought it was just some saying that you put on a t shirt and never believed it.
Looking back, I with I would have been able to absorb this more.....but coming from where I came from.....I was 100% in belief this was the way.
Im just placing this out there to anyone who might be more open minded than I was when I was younger.
Now I am not saying to stop going out and hustling and to stop trying to do XYZ to acquire money. I am not saying that at all. But what is important is to have an understanding standing beyond money as to why you might be spending time doing something. Why beyond the money.
Looking back, the things that make me the happiness are things you cannot buy. I will say the money allows me the time and freedom to do those things......so there is a correlation but they are not directly related.
Looking back, I with I would have been able to absorb this more.....but coming from where I came from.....I was 100% in belief this was the way.
Im just placing this out there to anyone who might be more open minded than I was when I was younger.
Now I am not saying to stop going out and hustling and to stop trying to do XYZ to acquire money. I am not saying that at all. But what is important is to have an understanding standing beyond money as to why you might be spending time doing something. Why beyond the money.
Looking back, the things that make me the happiness are things you cannot buy. I will say the money allows me the time and freedom to do those things......so there is a correlation but they are not directly related.
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03-21-2024, 04:22 PM
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I don’t know I’ve never seen a sad person on a jet ski have you?
But for real, money is just one aspect of life. You need your health, relationships, and self respect to have a chance at feeling fulfilled
As I’m in my mid-thirties now my income is growing by leaps and bounds prolly earning $350,000 USD this year on top of a boatload of equity in two SMB’s. And the future looking way up. But I’ve learned that even $1mm income is both a lot and not a lot at the same time
It’s clear there’s an infinite supply but with diminishing returns. Time with your loved ones is much more valuable. Only nerds coping with their childhood trauma don’t understand that
But for real, money is just one aspect of life. You need your health, relationships, and self respect to have a chance at feeling fulfilled
As I’m in my mid-thirties now my income is growing by leaps and bounds prolly earning $350,000 USD this year on top of a boatload of equity in two SMB’s. And the future looking way up. But I’ve learned that even $1mm income is both a lot and not a lot at the same time
It’s clear there’s an infinite supply but with diminishing returns. Time with your loved ones is much more valuable. Only nerds coping with their childhood trauma don’t understand that
03-21-2024, 04:26 PM
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OP btw you are one of my fav miscers srs always good to see you post
While I understand where you’re coming from and the message behind it, so you think a younger, hungry you would listen to that advice or come to that wisdom without accomplishing what you have accomplished now?
While I understand where you’re coming from and the message behind it, so you think a younger, hungry you would listen to that advice or come to that wisdom without accomplishing what you have accomplished now?
03-21-2024, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz⏩
Hind sight is always 20/20, it is very important to recognize that.OP btw you are one of my fav miscers srs always good to see you post
While I understand where you’re coming from and the message behind it, so you think a younger, hungry you would listen to that advice or come to that wisdom without accomplishing what you have accomplished now?
While I understand where you’re coming from and the message behind it, so you think a younger, hungry you would listen to that advice or come to that wisdom without accomplishing what you have accomplished now?
Everyone needs to remember that, any and all decisions you made, very the bast decisions you could have made at the time, based on the information and insight you had at the time.
The only thing you can do, is to look back at those decisions...
And smile.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
this, 100%Yeh we adapt way too quickly to both positive and negative changes in circumstance. Money can provide boosts of short-term happiness, then you adapt and return to your baseline level.
the baseline depends more on the individual than the money acquired by said individual
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03-21-2024, 05:50 PM
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That's why I went into sales.. to get that freedom. Freedom to do things you want and not having to wake up to a clock sometime in the future should bring in happiness
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
They say money doesn't buy happiness, but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than a bicycle. Especially if it's raining.I'd rather be sad and rich than sad and poor.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
Thats the ticket. The time is the key factor. So you have to figure out the balance. Lots of people trade time for more money. At a certain point, it doesnt seem worth it to me.I don’t know I’ve never seen a sad person on a jet ski have you?
But for real, money is just one aspect of life. You need your health, relationships, and self respect to have a chance at feeling fulfilled
As I’m in my mid-thirties now my income is growing by leaps and bounds prolly earning $350,000 USD this year on top of a boatload of equity in two SMB’s. And the future looking way up. But I’ve learned that even $1mm income is both a lot and not a lot at the same time
It’s clear there’s an infinite supply but with diminishing returns. Time with your loved ones is much more valuable. Only nerds coping with their childhood trauma don’t understand that
But for real, money is just one aspect of life. You need your health, relationships, and self respect to have a chance at feeling fulfilled
As I’m in my mid-thirties now my income is growing by leaps and bounds prolly earning $350,000 USD this year on top of a boatload of equity in two SMB’s. And the future looking way up. But I’ve learned that even $1mm income is both a lot and not a lot at the same time
It’s clear there’s an infinite supply but with diminishing returns. Time with your loved ones is much more valuable. Only nerds coping with their childhood trauma don’t understand that
Ive stayed in some of the nicest hotel rooms in Vegas. For a few minutes.....you think "man this is incredible". Then after that.....its pretty much the same chit.
03-22-2024, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz⏩
Bro, that is a great question. In a some ways I think I got lucky. I was able to travel the world and experience a ton of great things while also building my experience in my craft. I spent A LOT of time away from home but at that time I was single (on purpose.....had a live in GF that I broke it off with at 25 because she wanted to get married).OP btw you are one of my fav miscers srs always good to see you post
While I understand where you’re coming from and the message behind it, so you think a younger, hungry you would listen to that advice or come to that wisdom without accomplishing what you have accomplished now?
While I understand where you’re coming from and the message behind it, so you think a younger, hungry you would listen to that advice or come to that wisdom without accomplishing what you have accomplished now?
I would definitely do a few things different.....like break off sooner and start my own stuff sooner. But I dont regret the time I traded for the experience and money specifically in my situation.
And a more direct answer......No. I dont think the younger me would listen to that advice. I heard it back then but my dumb ass just thought "you probably havent made enough money"..........which is why im starting to believe you have to experience it to truly soak it in.
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Originally Posted By dfprodz⏩
Completely agree. When I pay attention to people I look for the baseline. That takes some time but if you look closely enough you can get a sense for what that is after a few data points.this, 100%
the baseline depends more on the individual than the money acquired by said individual
the baseline depends more on the individual than the money acquired by said individual
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Correct......but in life there are many circumstances. Sometimes the person that earned that Mercedes spent all their time at work so they come home to an empty house. So in certain cases id rather ride a bike and come home to a wife and kids that love me. So its all situational.They say money doesn't buy happiness, but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than a bicycle. Especially if it's raining.
What I am saying however is that once you have made a considerable amount....your brain doesnt go "thats it.....ive made it....im done and now can be content for the rest of my life. Its then when you start to realize (if you havent already) that the most important things are the things you cant buy"
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100% agree. I changed jobs a few months ago, went from working in-office each day 9-5 (often 9-closing) and doing a job I didn't really like managing people who pissed me off to no end, to now doing a 4 day WFH/1 day in-office job that's 9-5 non-negotiable and more enjoyable with a good team. Took a pay-cut for it but that's lessened by only having to commute 1x vs 5x a week, and my state of mind is so, so much better.
On paper the other job was better in that it paid a few grand more per year, but the reality of life is so much better now. Literally everyone I know comments on it and how happy they are for me now.
Work to live, don't live to work.
On paper the other job was better in that it paid a few grand more per year, but the reality of life is so much better now. Literally everyone I know comments on it and how happy they are for me now.
Work to live, don't live to work.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
I know it comes across that way. I have been accused of this many times and I can understand it. My intent however is to offer insights into thoughts of a person that is like minded with some people on the forum who aspire towards the same goals. Those thoughts are coming from someone who has experienced it and am now just offering perspective to see if others seeking the same goal can benefit.Neg op on his sight for his not at all humble brag
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Expect nosirrahx and inducedbrag tochime in shortly will neg them too
I benefitted off of interacting with people years ago on a watch forum. I believe there is still place for productive conversation on these types of forums.
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Originally Posted By TheJimmyRustler⏩
This is a perfect scenario of how it fits the thread perspective. In my corp years.....I turned down multiple offers to apply for VP jobs. I thought no way. Too much BS and time taken away from me for little upside other than a title and a power trip.100% agree. I changed jobs a few months ago, went from working in-office each day 9-5 (often 9-closing) and doing a job I didn't really like managing people who pissed me off to no end, to now doing a 4 day WFH/1 day in-office job that's 9-5 non-negotiable and more enjoyable with a good team. Took a pay-cut for it but that's lessened by only having to commute 1x vs 5x a week, and my state of mind is so, so much better.
On paper the other job was better in that it paid a few grand more per year, but the reality of life is so much better now. Literally everyone I know comments on it and how happy they are for me now.
Work to live, don't live to work.
On paper the other job was better in that it paid a few grand more per year, but the reality of life is so much better now. Literally everyone I know comments on it and how happy they are for me now.
Work to live, don't live to work.
03-22-2024, 07:14 AM
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Is this just some humble brag thread?
I'm a simple/easily content man who doesn't give a chit about fancy things. Time is our most valuable asset though, so having enough to live very comfortably and never have to worry about wagecucking again would increase happiness quite significantly I would imagine.
I'm a simple/easily content man who doesn't give a chit about fancy things. Time is our most valuable asset though, so having enough to live very comfortably and never have to worry about wagecucking again would increase happiness quite significantly I would imagine.
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