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There would be social standing involved. It would be a major epiphany for a lot of people once they realise that acquiring a mate or impressing their family isn't solely achieved by earning money. There are so many people who don' actually do anything apart from create wealth.
If everything is available via, say, automation, then suddenly just amassing resources isn't actually impressive. It would significantly broaden the notion of value beyond mere money. Social worth wouldn't identical to one's wealth anymore, to have social worth you are going to have actually do something good for the world.
Creating art, being a full-time student and just pursuing knowledge and all sorts of different skill sets, teaching and lecturing around the world, solving world problems etc. If it were me, I'd travel and teach people and share the knowledge I acquire with others. That would be a very fulfilling life.
If everything is available via, say, automation, then suddenly just amassing resources isn't actually impressive. It would significantly broaden the notion of value beyond mere money. Social worth wouldn't identical to one's wealth anymore, to have social worth you are going to have actually do something good for the world.
Creating art, being a full-time student and just pursuing knowledge and all sorts of different skill sets, teaching and lecturing around the world, solving world problems etc. If it were me, I'd travel and teach people and share the knowledge I acquire with others. That would be a very fulfilling life.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
Use those Fast pace hands on my CawkI would get off anxiety meds since my job is so fast-paced.
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It would be a freak show of murder and debauchery.
On one hand I believe working 40+ hours a week is a drain on life force and takes away from our health and joy of life and I wish there was a better option for decent people who would live right and make the most of it and take care of themselves and others but realistically this is less than 10% of the population.
90% of our population are complete pos degenerates who don’t deserve free time and if they have too much of it they will just harm themselves and others.
On one hand I believe working 40+ hours a week is a drain on life force and takes away from our health and joy of life and I wish there was a better option for decent people who would live right and make the most of it and take care of themselves and others but realistically this is less than 10% of the population.
90% of our population are complete pos degenerates who don’t deserve free time and if they have too much of it they will just harm themselves and others.
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People would break off into literal tribes like it was the stone age. Most would be dead in 20 years.
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Originally Posted By Basedbaby⏩
AgreedIt would be a freak show of murder and debauchery.
90% of our population are complete pos degenerates who don’t deserve free time and if they have too much of it they will just harm themselves and others.
90% of our population are complete pos degenerates who don’t deserve free time and if they have too much of it they will just harm themselves and others.
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
A genuine career might give purposeA career not only gives you income but gives purpose to a man's life, especially if he doesn't have a family(the most important thing you'll ever do)
Men that don't work become utterly depressed losers & addicts, many rope
Men that don't work become utterly depressed losers & addicts, many rope
Unfortunately most men have soul-sucking wage cuck drone jobs which are essentially rope fuel
Purpose can come from many other things, provided you haven’t been institutionalised
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
I rarely talk about work outside of work. Some people, its all they have. Work to live, not live to work.A genuine career might give purpose
Unfortunately most men have soul-sucking wage cuck drone jobs which are essentially rope fuel
Purpose can come from many other things, provided you haven’t been institutionalised
Unfortunately most men have soul-sucking wage cuck drone jobs which are essentially rope fuel
Purpose can come from many other things, provided you haven’t been institutionalised
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
Your average modern career is useless and has no real contribution to society, other than into feeding the Jew ran financial institutions. I say erase it all, kill the banking industry and bring back bartering. If it's not revolved around agriculture and healthcare, it's not real. Kick the Jews from America and become independent nation where the people have the power and the government are just servants to us. (Super Ded fkn Srs)A career not only gives you income but gives purpose to a man's life, especially if he doesn't have a family(the most important thing you'll ever do)
Men that don't work become utterly depressed losers & addicts, many rope
Men that don't work become utterly depressed losers & addicts, many rope
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This is the very first definition I pulled from Google:
“activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.”
I do believe that “work”, in the sense of the word as defined above, is a key component of overall human happiness and vitality. Work is good for the soul. But work in this sense can mean all sorts of fukin’ things, e.g. practicing an instrument, painting a picture, building a rocking chair, writing a story, etc.
However, if by work we actually mean a “career” or “jobs”, or the state of the world-of-work that currently exists in the West, then I think there’s at least something of augment to be made that we are long overdue major improvements/changes.
The main problem, as I see it, is that if you take away “traditional” work from people, what are they left with? Close to fukin’ nothing. Our whole society / existence is structured around having a job and going to work. You remove that and it leaves a MASSIVE fukin’ void.
So, we can’t just rip out our very way of existence and expect everything to be hunky dory. I think we need some kind of phased progression where the role of traditional work is gradually replaced by other outlets for work, hopefully things of a more creative and/or personal flavour.
“activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.”
I do believe that “work”, in the sense of the word as defined above, is a key component of overall human happiness and vitality. Work is good for the soul. But work in this sense can mean all sorts of fukin’ things, e.g. practicing an instrument, painting a picture, building a rocking chair, writing a story, etc.
However, if by work we actually mean a “career” or “jobs”, or the state of the world-of-work that currently exists in the West, then I think there’s at least something of augment to be made that we are long overdue major improvements/changes.
The main problem, as I see it, is that if you take away “traditional” work from people, what are they left with? Close to fukin’ nothing. Our whole society / existence is structured around having a job and going to work. You remove that and it leaves a MASSIVE fukin’ void.
So, we can’t just rip out our very way of existence and expect everything to be hunky dory. I think we need some kind of phased progression where the role of traditional work is gradually replaced by other outlets for work, hopefully things of a more creative and/or personal flavour.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
This is the unfortunate reality. If your passions cannot be monetized, your life is going to feel empty wagecucking. Society doesn’t provide stimulating careers for all or even most men.A genuine career might give purpose
Unfortunately most men have soul-sucking wage cuck drone jobs which are essentially rope fuel
Purpose can come from many other things, provided you haven’t been institutionalised
Unfortunately most men have soul-sucking wage cuck drone jobs which are essentially rope fuel
Purpose can come from many other things, provided you haven’t been institutionalised
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
Humans do better when they have a cause. Something to struggle against.This is the very first definition I pulled from Google:
“activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.”
I do believe that “work”, in the sense of the word as defined above, is a key component of overall human happiness and vitality. Work is good for the soul. But work in this sense can mean all sorts of fukin’ things, e.g. practicing an instrument, painting a picture, building a rocking chair, writing a story, etc.
However, if by work we actually mean a “career” or “jobs”, or the state of the world-of-work that currently exists in the West, then I think there’s at least something of augment to be made that we are long overdue major improvements/changes.
The main problem, as I see it, is that if you take away “traditional” work from people, what are they left with? Close to fukin’ nothing. Our whole society / existence is structured around having a job and going to work. You remove that and it leaves a MASSIVE fukin’ void.
So, we can’t just rip out our very way of existence and expect everything to be hunky dory. I think we need some kind of phased progression where the role of traditional work is gradually replaced by other outlets for work, hopefully things of a more creative and/or personal flavour.
“activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.”
I do believe that “work”, in the sense of the word as defined above, is a key component of overall human happiness and vitality. Work is good for the soul. But work in this sense can mean all sorts of fukin’ things, e.g. practicing an instrument, painting a picture, building a rocking chair, writing a story, etc.
However, if by work we actually mean a “career” or “jobs”, or the state of the world-of-work that currently exists in the West, then I think there’s at least something of augment to be made that we are long overdue major improvements/changes.
The main problem, as I see it, is that if you take away “traditional” work from people, what are they left with? Close to fukin’ nothing. Our whole society / existence is structured around having a job and going to work. You remove that and it leaves a MASSIVE fukin’ void.
So, we can’t just rip out our very way of existence and expect everything to be hunky dory. I think we need some kind of phased progression where the role of traditional work is gradually replaced by other outlets for work, hopefully things of a more creative and/or personal flavour.
For most of human history with a few exceptions, survival has been the struggle. Food, shelter, and fukking. Today even lazy people just go along for the ride. Will you get ahead? no...will you die? also no.
Now we have replaced that real physical struggle for survival with made up bullchit and called it "work". Remove that work, and those without other external drivers will do poorly. I think that how we are wired.
Hobbies and other things that drive you give people reason to push and excel, and as a bonus they are enjoyable and enriching. And I bet a huge majority of the western world has nothing.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Why do they have to be monetized? if your basic needs are met, does doing that passion for the intrinsic value of doing it not count?This is the unfortunate reality. If your passions cannot be monetized, your life is going to feel empty wagecucking. Society doesn’t provide stimulating careers for all or even most men.
I'd say that sometimes a good way to start hating your passion is to monetize it and make it your job.
The fur market is low right now, in terms of money...people ask who I still do it.
Well, I fish and release most fish, don't get paid for it, and still fish.
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
A raison d'être.Humans do better when they have a cause. Something to struggle against.
For most of human history with a few exceptions, survival has been the struggle. Food, shelter, and fukking. Today even lazy people just go along for the ride. Will you get ahead? no...will you die? also no.
Now we have replaced that real physical struggle for survival with made up bullchit and called it "work". Remove that work, and those without other external drivers will do poorly. I think that how we are wired.
Hobbies and other things that drive you give people reason to push and excel, and as a bonus they are enjoyable and enriching. And I bet a huge majority of the western world has nothing.
For most of human history with a few exceptions, survival has been the struggle. Food, shelter, and fukking. Today even lazy people just go along for the ride. Will you get ahead? no...will you die? also no.
Now we have replaced that real physical struggle for survival with made up bullchit and called it "work". Remove that work, and those without other external drivers will do poorly. I think that how we are wired.
Hobbies and other things that drive you give people reason to push and excel, and as a bonus they are enjoyable and enriching. And I bet a huge majority of the western world has nothing.
Your third paragraph touches upon my main issue with the whole situation. Society/culture has dealt with the problem in the worst way possible, which is to create fake solutions in the form of working more than is necessary, creation of bullchit jobs, creation of pointless busy work, etc.
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What knowledge?There would be social standing involved. It would be a major epiphany for a lot of people once they realise that acquiring a mate or impressing their family isn't solely achieved by earning money. There are so many people who don' actually do anything apart from create wealth.
If everything is available via, say, automation, then suddenly just amassing resources isn't actually impressive. It would significantly broaden the notion of value beyond mere money. Social worth wouldn't identical to one's wealth anymore, to have social worth you are going to have actually do something good for the world.
Creating art, being a full-time student and just pursuing knowledge and all sorts of different skill sets, teaching and lecturing around the world, solving world problems etc. If it were me, I'd travel and teach people and share the knowledge I acquire with others. That would be a very fulfilling life.
If everything is available via, say, automation, then suddenly just amassing resources isn't actually impressive. It would significantly broaden the notion of value beyond mere money. Social worth wouldn't identical to one's wealth anymore, to have social worth you are going to have actually do something good for the world.
Creating art, being a full-time student and just pursuing knowledge and all sorts of different skill sets, teaching and lecturing around the world, solving world problems etc. If it were me, I'd travel and teach people and share the knowledge I acquire with others. That would be a very fulfilling life.
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
soon it would ge oldI’d be fishing every day.
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Originally Posted By BerserkGrom⏩
I've fished several times a week for most of my life.soon it would ge old
Hasn't got old yet.
But I understand your point. Thats why I hunt, and trap also. Fun way of putting up food, and getting out and experiencing things.
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Originally Posted By BerserkGrom⏩
Nah. When I lived in the South Pacific I fished almost 6 days a week (after work M-F and Sat) for 3 years straight and it never got old. It did get to kind of a routine, but I changed that up by exploring new areas.soon it would ge old
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There are people out there who consider this the ideal future. Everything is automated, AI runs the world with minimal effort by humans, and humans spend their time and allotted resources on leisure.
Pipe dream imo
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04-17-2024, 09:16 AM
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We're just not ready as a society intellectually. I mean, a lot of us are a lot further along than most, and even then, I don't think I'd do so well without a job.
It'd have to be ingrained from you from the start of your life; that you don't have to work to find happiness or purpose. I don't think it's something you can just turn on and tell people go figure out your purpose.
Sometimes I wonder where we could be as a society if that were the case, sitting around tripping on mushrooms, figuring out the true meaning of life and advancing at a rapid pace, while enjoying the greater things in life. That's what ancient cultures did until meteors ended a lot of 'em.
It'd have to be ingrained from you from the start of your life; that you don't have to work to find happiness or purpose. I don't think it's something you can just turn on and tell people go figure out your purpose.
Sometimes I wonder where we could be as a society if that were the case, sitting around tripping on mushrooms, figuring out the true meaning of life and advancing at a rapid pace, while enjoying the greater things in life. That's what ancient cultures did until meteors ended a lot of 'em.
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Corporations have replaced tribes. People want to feel like they are apart of something larger, and work does that on some level.
If you don't work then you need something positive to replace it, or people would just start forming gangs instead
If you don't work then you need something positive to replace it, or people would just start forming gangs instead
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Originally Posted By thursdayParty1⏩
Gangs= power. An interesting point.Corporations have replaced tribes. People want to feel like they are apart of something larger, and work does that on some level.
If you don't work then you need something positive to replace it, or people would just start forming gangs instead
If you don't work then you need something positive to replace it, or people would just start forming gangs instead
When all other things are equal, people will try find a way to mog others.
Only thing left is power, and if its not politics, its gangs
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
Its not a coincidence that the areas with the largest unemployment/poverty have the most gangs, as someone already pointed outGangs= power. An interesting point.
When all other things are equal, people will try find a way to mog others.
Only thing left is power, and if its not politics, its gangs
When all other things are equal, people will try find a way to mog others.
Only thing left is power, and if its not politics, its gangs
Being a part of something is a human need, for better or worse
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Originally Posted By thursdayParty1⏩
It’s odd how we think. It’s not about having enough to fulfill your wants and needs in a bubble. It’s about having more than others. That’s it. The end goal, the marker of success.Its not a coincidence that the areas with the largest unemployment/poverty have the most gangs, as someone already pointed out
Being a part of something is a human need, for better or worse
Being a part of something is a human need, for better or worse
Exclusive things, rare things, expensive things - they are assigned value by us by that fundamental human desire. Have what others cannot have. If there is an ultimate commodity, it is people. It is control.
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