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post 1704233521 07-27-2024, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So now misc is going the "Goatis" approach, and claiming that weight lifting is unhealthy???
Explain how eating more food to carry extra unnecessary muscle mass is somehow beneficial to your health.

Or post a video of you lifting more than me. I'll accept either.
post 1704233531 07-27-2024, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By JackyChin⏩
Just googled it and it's shockingly little. 7 cal per lb at the high estimate means 50 lbs of muscle only burns 350 more calories per day.

Which seems super low.
Yeah, exactly. It's fukkin stupidly overexaggerated.
post 1704236101 07-27-2024, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Explain how eating more food to carry extra unnecessary muscle mass is somehow beneficial to your health.

Or post a video of you lifting more than me. I'll accept either.
Depends what you're eating, and nobody is saying that being a bloat lord is healthy.
post 1704236141 07-27-2024, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Yeah, exactly. It's fukkin stupidly overexaggerated.
So you want to be that guy who's in his 40s and 50s, and gets easily winded when doing something physical???
post 1704236741 07-27-2024, 06:30 PM
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Kind of agreed. I went from complete meat head to not working out for 2.5 years. My body from college soccer then into powerlifting destroyed my body and it was breaking down. Pain from scoliosis, knee pain, hip pain, elbow tendinitis, always sore and always tight.

Now I'm nimble af, in better conditioning, rucked for like 2 hours and 50lbs on my back randomly and wasn't winded at any point, and no pain.

Yea I don't feel as strong, and I'm smaller, but the tradeoff has made my life better. I'm still in shape though and have been doing some bodyweight stuff with rucking.
post 1704237001 07-27-2024, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So you want to be that guy who's in his 40s and 50s, and gets easily winded when doing something physical???
Dave plz
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Kind of agreed. I went from complete meat head to not working out for 2.5 years. My body from college soccer then into powerlifting destroyed my body and it was breaking down. Pain from scoliosis, knee pain, hip pain, elbow tendinitis, always sore and always tight.

Now I'm nimble af, in better conditioning, rucked for like 2 hours and 50lbs on my back randomly and wasn't winded at any point, and no pain.

Yea I don't feel as strong, and I'm smaller, but the tradeoff has made my life better. I'm still in shape though and have been doing some bodyweight stuff with rucking.
I got my weight vest and did 2 30 minute rucks so far with 25lbs. Feels so good. I'd go longer but I'm in florida and it's humid as fuk right now. Gonna work my way up.
post 1704237651 07-27-2024, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Kind of agreed. I went from complete meat head to not working out for 2.5 years. My body from college soccer then into powerlifting destroyed my body and it was breaking down. Pain from scoliosis, knee pain, hip pain, elbow tendinitis, always sore and always tight.

Now I'm nimble af, in better conditioning, rucked for like 2 hours and 50lbs on my back randomly and wasn't winded at any point, and no pain.

Yea I don't feel as strong, and I'm smaller, but the tradeoff has made my life better. I'm still in shape though and have been doing some bodyweight stuff with rucking.
So you pretty much admit that you overdid it.....
post 1704237751 07-27-2024, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Dave plz



I got my weight vest and did 2 30 minute rucks so far with 25lbs. Feels so good. I'd go longer but I'm in florida and it's humid as fuk right now. Gonna work my way up.
Yea dude it's great. Once you finish it you feel really accomplished. It's way better in the fall because this humidity is brutal lol.
post 1704237851 07-27-2024, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Yea dude it's great. Once you finish it you feel really accomplished. It's way better in the fall because this humidity is brutal lol.
I'm really regretting not doing it 6 months ago when it was nice out lol. I'm poverty so spending $100 was a big decision for me.
post 1704238011 07-27-2024, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
I'm having a hard time believing that somehow bench pressing and curling some dumbbells is making me healthier. I'd actually wager that it's making me less healthy.
Trump feels it actually shortens your life, as if we have a certain finite amount of energy/activity to expend lol.

Cardio >> resistance for general health but you need both.
post 1704238141 07-27-2024, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Redundanteater⏩
Trump feels it actually shortens your life, as if we have a certain finite amount of energy/activity to expend lol.

Cardio >> resistance for general health but you need both.
I would agree you need both. But I think "bodybuilding" even natty is detrimental to your longevity. Especially non-natty bodybuilding, which I've done, is terrible for you. And I'll continue to do anyway.
post 1704238201 07-27-2024, 07:03 PM
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i think it can be good in moderation...i've read studies that say something like 45-60min of resistance a week is all you need to maintain muscle mass.

i would think problems are more likely to pop up when people 35-50+ are going hard like they're age 20 trying to build muscle...injuries, joint problems, disks, tears...stuff like that. kinda the same as those older people that want to run 30+ miles a week and end up wrecking their feet/knees/hips
post 1704238271 07-27-2024, 07:05 PM
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Bench pressing heavy has fk’d me up. I bench press once every 8 days but the majority of the time I went heavy . This has given me permanent tendinitis in my forearms .
Before getting tendinitis I noticed I couldn’t golf worth a chit after I bulked up . I’m a chit golfer regardless,and only play at company outings , but I did notice I went totally downhill .

Regarding tendonitis , I believe if I stuck with using dumbbells for bench pressing that I never would have had any issues .
I believe suicide grip with a barbell fk’d me to , as it puts a weird stress on your tendons .

But if weightlifting is done properly I believe it’s very beneficial.
It’s already been proven in senior care wards . They put them on weight lifting routines and they showed major improvements , even made claims that some never required a cane again .
Resistance training is where it’s at , especially if you don’t PR .
Ego lifting it what caused my issues , and had I not struggled to get higher numbers all the time I’m sure I’d be better off right now .
Just do high reps and not overthink it
Back with my Fam
post 1704238311 07-27-2024, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
Bench pressing heavy has fk’d me up. I bench press once every 8 days but the majority of the time I went heavy . This has given me permanent tendinitis in my forearms .
Before getting tendinitis I noticed I couldn’t golf worth a chit after I bulked up . I’m a chit golfer regardless,and only play at company outings , but I did notice I went totally downhill .

Regarding tendonitis , I believe if I stuck with using dumbbells for bench pressing that I ever would have had any issues .
I believe suicide grip with a barbell fk’d me to , as it puts a weird stress on the tendons .

But if weightlifting is done properly I believe it’s very beneficial.
It’s already been proven in senior care wards . They put them on weight lifting routines and they showed major improvements , even made claims that some never required a cane again .
Resistance training is where it’s at , especially if you don’t PR .
Ego lifting it what caused my issues , and had I not struggled to get higher numbers all the time I’m sure I’d be better off right now .
I look around at the gym and I'd say 90% of the people over 60 are legitimately crippled. Probably not from lifting in most cases but I can say for sure the chit they do in the gym is not helping them at all.
post 1704238471 07-27-2024, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
I look around at the gym and I'd say 90% of the people over 60 are legitimately crippled. Probably not from lifting in most cases but I can say for sure the chit they do in the gym is not helping them at all.
when i look around at the older people getting around well in the gym -- it's usually the pretty slim ones that have maintained strength/flexability. might be a 5'9 man that weighs something like 155lbs. could be possible that carrying less weight over the decades helped save their joints.
post 1704238531 07-27-2024, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
I'm having a hard time believing that somehow bench pressing and curling some dumbbells is making me healthier. I'd actually wager that it's making me less healthy.
Idk.
5'10
post 1704239131 07-27-2024, 07:31 PM
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Just don't squat or deadlift heavy and you'll be fine.
post 1704239171 07-27-2024, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeakethTruth⏩
Just don't squat or deadlift heavy and you'll be fine.
500 squat and 600 deadlift crew
post 1704239301 07-27-2024, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
500 squat and 600 deadlift crew
Mirin but most people aren't anywhere near that level. So lifting weights doesn't really have any drawbacks because the weight they're using isn't heavy enough to destroy their joints.
post 1704239381 07-27-2024, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeakethTruth⏩
Just don't squat or deadlift heavy and you'll be fine.
Your definition of heavy?
post 1704239491 07-27-2024, 07:40 PM
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I had to stop lifting because it made my back hurt no matter what and my erections were softer. Weight training puts a lot of stress on the body even if you don't initially feel it.
post 1704239631 07-27-2024, 07:44 PM
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The worst and most unhealthiest type of excersizes is running and CrossFit/high intensity cardio. Long distance running is prob the worse

The longer time under stress you are while having high heart rate the more you age

So lifting for an hour is not nearly as bad as that

Also walking for 2 hours is not bad as long as your heart rate is low

Shiit like “zoomba” classes that all these sloots go to is 1000x more aging than lifting since they are in a state of stress constantly for an hour
post 1704240351 07-27-2024, 08:03 PM
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I think lifting as a natty or with an honest trt dose is healthy. It makes your bones denser and is good for your joints as you age. It will prevent osteoporosis and arthritis... Obviously if you take it to the extreme with PEDs and get huge it's certainly not healthy.
post 1704240481 07-27-2024, 08:06 PM
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It’s more so for when you’re older helps with bone density and chit

Plus it’s fun and having fun is healthy
post 1704240491 07-27-2024, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By StevenPiper⏩
I had to stop lifting because it made my back hurt no matter what and my erections were softer. Weight training puts a lot of stress on the body even if you don't initially feel it.
Just lol bro... Then do some exercises that don't hurt your back. There is always a work around. If squats hurt then do belt squats. If bench hurts then use dumbbells. Stuff like that
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Originally Posted By StevenPiper⏩
I had to stop lifting because it made my back hurt no matter what and my erections were softer. Weight training puts a lot of stress on the body even if you don't initially feel it.
After reading the part about your lower back I processed "erections" as "erectors". Fookin lmao'd when I re-read your post.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Your definition of heavy?
Honestly, probably anything above half of Gary's numbers so 250 lb squat or 300 lb deadlift. Yes I know that's bish weight for hardcore lifter standards but for people who don't care for having huge legs there's no point in going any heavier if you've got other things going on that make it hard to consistently get in enough calories and rest for recovery.
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Pretty sure lifting weights and doing 1 hour of cardio is way healthier than being sedentary
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Doesn't Muscle helps burn more calories thoughout the day and keep your metabolism up?

That by itself sounds like a majority benefit.
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Originally Posted By StevenPiper⏩
I had to stop lifting because it made my back hurt no matter what andmy erections were softer. Weight training puts a lot of stress on the body even if you don't initially feel it.
You were doing something seriously wrong

When I went on a lifting hiatus, I started to notice weak af erections after 1 year of no gym. By year 3, i needed alcohol to stimulate my penor. I thought it was just the aging process

Now i'm 1 year back in the gym and have diamond hard erections with no stims
post 1704243001 07-27-2024, 09:29 PM
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Lifting weights makes it easier to punish communists so yes very healthy
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