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post 1704295531 07-29-2024, 09:03 AM
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I always laugh when 'experts' pretend to know what the housing market or financial markets will do. Especially when they insist housing just can't keep going up. The price of housing in Canada and Australia is a lot more expensive then most US markets. Yet they seem to think US markets can't get to that same level. As if there is some kind of cap where people will say enough is enough we aint buying houses... Lmao.

Originally Posted By FastBack6
My buddy bought a house six months ago for 330K, that was assessed at 180K in 2020. Then spent another 60 grand on remodeling it. Of course has a mortgage payment on top of it. He’s screwed long term. Told him it was a bad idea but he did it anyway
You really won't know if its a bad idea for many years.

I know a couple of guys into real estate investing. Net-worth in the 12-15 million dollar range. One does single family homes the other does trailer-parks/apartment complexes/duplexes. If you asked either one of them about the housing market they'll both say they have no fukking idea what's going to happen and that they really don't know that much about the future of the housing market. They most certainly aren't liquidating their holdings because they anticipate a massive crash.


I also know a couple that are both realtors. They also invest in real estate. They are still actively buying homes, they own over a dozen or so single family homes last I heard. And they are still actively buying rent houses and think the markets are only going up. They are also incentivized to this because they each make six figures a year selling homes for/to people... So they'll never talk about the markets gonna crash.




If people that exclusively focus on real estate as a career. Who have holdings with a net worth in the 10-15 million dollar range openly admit they are pretty small time and have no idea what the hell the future holds. How TF are a bunch of miscers that are renters/can't afford to buy one house so confident they know what the real estate markets will do?
post 1704295911 07-29-2024, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Why? He could sell today for a profit.
No, he couldn’t.
post 1704296011 07-29-2024, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By guest89
I always laugh when 'experts' pretend to know what the housing market or financial markets will do. Especially when they insist housing just can't keep going up. The price of housing in Canada and Australia is a lot more expensive then most US markets. Yet they seem to think US markets can't get to that same level. As if there is some kind of cap where people will say enough is enough we aint buying houses... Lmao.




You really won't know if its a bad idea for many years.

I know a couple of guys into real estate investing. Net-worth in the 12-15 million dollar range. One does single family homes the other does trailer-parks/apartment complexes/duplexes. If you asked either one of them about the housing market they'll both say they have no fukking idea what's going to happen and that they really don't know that much about the future of the housing market. They most certainly aren't liquidating their holdings because they anticipate a massive crash.


I also know a couple that are both realtors. They also invest in real estate. They are still actively buying homes, they own over a dozen or so single family homes last I heard. And they are still actively buying rent houses and think the markets are only going up. They are also incentivized to this because they each make six figures a year selling homes for/to people... So they'll never talk about the markets gonna crash.




If people that exclusively focus on real estate as a career. Who have holdings with a net worth in the 10-15 million dollar range openly admit they are pretty small time and have no idea what the hell the future holds. How TF are a bunch of miscers that are renters/can't afford to buy one house so confident they know what the real estate markets will do?
I’m not saying I know exactly what it’s going to do, I’m saying that leveraging yourself that far when you make 80 grand a year and could get fired at any time is pretty foolish. Your friends have the money to play. Most people don’t.
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Originally Posted By miscHodor
It's insane what people are paying in our area compared to pre covid. Each time a house goes on the market in our neighborhood I will say "no way they are going to get that". The past three times I've been proven wrong. When we purchased our home in 2016 most of the houses were in the 230K - 260k range. Today they easily go for 500k - 600k.
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post 1704296441 07-29-2024, 09:33 AM
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Crash bro miscers think you can put this genie back in the bottle



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post 1704296941 07-29-2024, 09:50 AM
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Just fkn lol if you can't build houses(to live and sell them) just fkn lol

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post 1704297721 07-29-2024, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
I truly have no idea what you’re on about.
Keep pretending like you didn't bitch for 5 days about dRummphh not making a phone call....and suddenly you have no idea what I'm referring to. Just lol. Pathetic.

post 1704297881 07-29-2024, 10:17 AM
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Are the international groups still buying up homes; the Chinese the Blackrocks?
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Yeah with existing homes in the US, the inventory is just getting back to pre pandemic levels. Demand for existing homes is as low as it was the first year of the Great Recession, so it has to be brutal being a realtor in all but fast growing areas. Still a good time to sell, but not be a realtor.

Chart of months of supply, you can see the last 5 years
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_ex..._months_supply


Existing homes sales chart, a few options to look at
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ing-home-sales


Where this all leads = ???
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post 1704298751 07-29-2024, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
Yeah with existing homes in the US, the inventory is just getting back to pre pandemic levels. Demand for existing homes is as low as it was the first year of the Great Recession, so it has to be brutal being a realtor in all but fast growing areas. Still a good time to sell, but not be a realtor.

Chart of months of supply, you can see the last 5 years
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_ex..._months_supply


Existing homes sales chart, a few options to look at
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ing-home-sales


Where this all leads = ???
They still printed so much money it may not matter, the only thing that may (slim chance) cause a minor price correction is massive unemployment and a Black Monday scenario, but they will just fire up the printers again and fuk things up 10x worse long term

Besides, prices were still climbing consistently from 2012-2019 before the scamdemic, so getting back to 2019 levels probably won’t do much

Murica is done
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post 1704298921 07-29-2024, 10:52 AM
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Home prices at all time highs AND rent due in three days?

Absolutely brutal
post 1704298941 07-29-2024, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Are the international groups still buying up homes; the Chinese the Blackrocks?
No, hedge fund buying is down. It really peaked at 3% of all total home sales in 2022 but historically it’s been about 1% a year and it’s less than that now
post 1704299051 07-29-2024, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Berts


CNN: 86% of Americans who do not own their home would like to buy, but can't afford it — and more than half of them say it's unlikely they'll ever be able to do so.

Bidenomics 101
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post 1704299431 07-29-2024, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Are the international groups still buying up homes; the Chinese the Blackrocks?
No. If memory serves me the only part of the market that's experienced growth in sales volume over the last year has been the $1M+ homes. So it's lopsided compared to the norm, with many or most of those homes being bought by Boomers with lots of equity from their previous home. It's kind of wild to be 70 yrs old and taking out a 20 yr mortgage as many are doing, but I admire the optimism.
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Breaking news!Prices for things go up!
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Breaking news!Prices for things go up!
Its quite breaking for the miscers that believe the prices on those things are going to drop drastically. And everyone who owns those things are going to be in a massive financial hole.


Some miscers apparently believe it so much they actually sold their home so they can rent with the belief that the housing markets will drastically tank. And they'll somehow be able to scoop up a better home for a much better price in the future. (lol)
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
Keep pretending like you didn't bitch for 5 days about dRummphh not making a phone call....and suddenly you have no idea what I'm referring to. Just lol. Pathetic.

Seriously, wtf are you talking about? How about this, instead of a cartoon gif you have saved to respond to me, you tell me what you’re on about.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Breaking news!Prices for things go up!
Prices for homes tripled from 2021 in some markets. You're really gonna post that pretending that's in any way normal?
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Originally Posted By guest89
I always laugh when 'experts' pretend to know what the housing market or financial markets will do. Especially when they insist housing just can't keep going up. The price of housing in Canada and Australia is a lot more expensive then most US markets. Yet they seem to think US markets can't get to that same level. As if there is some kind of cap where people will say enough is enough we aint buying houses... Lmao.
Are housing prices in the middle if nowhere NWT or Saskatchewan insanely expensive? Prices went up the most in markets where there are almost no good paying jobs, not just in NYC and Chicago. In fact they went up far less as a % of what they were in Chicagoland vs somewhere like SW Florida.
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the first home i ever bought which i still have has went up x5 in value.
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Originally Posted By guest89
Its quite breaking for the miscers that believe the prices on those things are going to drop drastically. And everyone who owns those things are going to be in a massive financial hole.


Some miscers apparently believe it so much they actuallysold their home so they can rent with the belief that the housing markets will drastically tank. And they'll somehow be able to scoop up a better home for a much better price in the future. (lol)
Those miscers will assure you that the rent on their 600ft apartment is less than the current ARMS mortgage on a family home on a 2 acre lot

Lmao
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
the first home i ever bought which i still have has went up x5 in value.
Trailers don’t increase in value and you don’t own the lot

Gtfo my thread
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Trailers don’t increase in value and you don’t own the lot

Gtfo my thread
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Was tired of renting and finally bought a house a few weeks ago. The market for anything desirable is pretty insane due to little to no inventory. I paid over 80k asking on a $1.3 mil property. That is after losing 4 houses where I offered as much as 100k over asking.

No one really knows what’ll happen to the market but ultimately it was time for me to buy as my older one starts kindergarten and the younger two start right behind in pre school. My experience was very humbling. I thought I brought cash and was looking at $mil+ properties so there’d be less competition. I was dead wrong. I was competing with moggers who didn’t GAF about the price and brought cash with no inspection. As I said, anything in a highly desirable area sold either in privates or within 24 hours of coming on the market.

Also found that realtors are playing the market and monopolizing it on certain highly desirable areas. They are in cahoots with each other. My realtor knew exactly which house would come on the market and when. But they only wanted to bring 1 or 2 houses a week in certain areas to keep the supply limited and have a buyer frenzy/bid off. Alternative was to look the house and pay a premium to the seller to stop them from showing it anyone else. It was totally fixed.

In the end we have a house we like and could easily afford, we plan on being there for 20 plus years. But it is totally a sellers market in desirable areas with great schools.
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Originally Posted By coast2coastam
Prices for homes tripled from 2021 in some markets. You're really gonna post thatpretending that's in any way normal?
I said no such thing, neither did OP

Where are these conveniently cherry-picked markets,which have nothing to do with this thread, that saw a400%price increase... when the national average since 2021 is12%?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MSPUS
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Originally Posted By guest89
I always laugh when 'experts' pretend to know what the housing market or financial markets will do. Especially when they insist housing just can't keep going up. The price of housing in Canada and Australia is a lot more expensive then most US markets.Yet they seem to think US markets can't get to that same level. As if there is some kind of cap where people will say enough is enough we aint buying houses... Lmao.
there won't be any incentive for people to buy at those levels if their intent is to rent them out because the rents will need to be so high for them to break even on cashflow. who would be able to afford renting and paying that much?
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It's corporations buying up homes, not families.

It should be illegal for corporations to own single family homes.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
I said no such thing, neither did OP

Where are these conveniently cherry-picked markets,which have nothing to do with this thread, that saw a400%price increase... when the national average since 2021 is12%?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MSPUS
Why u no 60% crash in March 2022 tho
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