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08-09-2024, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
yeah that's what i'm saying. by a certain age the high school boyfriends didn't work out, the college boyfriends didn't work out…and heck even if you give a pass for whatever reasons, the several boyfriends after college didn't work out…by 25+ a lot of things didn't work out. by late 20s a whole lotta things didn't work out and you're likely dealing with scraps. a little different for men because the majority can't just snap their fingers and be in relationships…but without top tier looks/money they are fishing in a dried up pond.
That’s why it sucks for men like men I started from the bottom and had to work my way up. I was obese as a child and poor I had to lose over 100 lbs while putting on muscle for a total body transformation while making money coming from nothing and get my own place didn’t get my first gf till I was almost 23 and now I’m 24 almost 25 and only ever had a gf for 6 months. Women and men who grew up attractive/rich don’t know how good they got it.
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08-09-2024, 06:54 AM
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so you can either keep your options open and hope to get lucky

or give up
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08-09-2024, 06:57 AM
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This is very location dependent. Only broke guys need to go for females their own age…
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08-09-2024, 06:58 AM
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It was this way 10 years ago as well. I went on dates and or dated prob over 100 girls after getting divorced at 28. Pretty much had a rule I wouldn't date with a gap over 5 years because I found them to be too dumb. But then at 30 met my now wife who was 21. But she seems older than me most the time.
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08-09-2024, 07:05 AM
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Noticed this too

I got lucky and found a good women to date though and we've been at it for a year so far

30 years old now, and when I was dating before I met my girl…the girls who I'd chat up…large percentage of them you could eventually tell why no decent guy wanted them

I remember I asked one girl " what was it like in your home country "

Started giving me the gears about how it was an offensive question…lol i immediately just ghosted
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08-09-2024, 07:38 AM
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I have nothing constructive to add, but once I was talking to a female coworker who was in her late 20s and was like a 5.5/10. She was short and kinda chubby, but she had a cute face and huge tits.

She showed me a selfie she took when she was 18 and I had to keep myself from looking visibly stunned. Easily 45+ pounds lighter, skinny with big tits, super thin waist, wide hips, and glow. Before being a black-out drunk in her early to mid 20s and having an abortion. It was brutal. I know looking at that picture was made her feel terrible.
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08-09-2024, 07:42 AM
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Wtf u talking about?

Like a 27 yo dude needs to deal with anyone older than 23
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08-09-2024, 07:45 AM
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OP what in the flying fuk you smoking today so early in the morning.
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08-09-2024, 08:00 AM
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Learning this the hard way. Basically relationship material doesn't even exist once you get past a certain age.
If I knew what I know now (30) back when I was 23-24 I would have locked down the right one back then. But I was dumb and kept hoeing around, not realizing that I was losing out in a GEM that simply doesn't exist anymore 7 years later in our world.
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08-09-2024, 08:03 AM
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lol… if you see women in their 20's as prime pickings…. I doubt your

20's<early 30's for idea female selection.
Women get approached all the time. Huge red flag if she isn't locked down, 99% of the time its her fault.

Single women 30-35 have the highest std rate because they are desperate to settle down. These are the girls that act sweet when you date them, then change the day after the wedding. These girls spent their 20s taking loads to the face, GL wifing a girl that is ran through and can't pair bond anymore

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08-09-2024, 08:05 AM
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08-09-2024, 08:10 AM
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This guy is a high quality person but is a virgin. Meanwhile, Jeremy Meeks married a billionaire. JFL @ the miscers who still insist that women go for good men and good personalities.


This guy is actually retarded. Not as in a general insult. As in 70 IQ.
He's too busy working free over time like a cuck
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08-09-2024, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
the vast majority of "good" women are off the market. most of those remaining are likely very liberal, don't care about having family or have some other problems. many of those former good women will be coming back on the market but they'll be jaded and single mothers. also most of those younger good ones don't want to be with someone over about 4-5 yrs older…for example 20 yr old will want someone 20-25.

you just have to realize past about 27-28 you are dealing with left over scraps.
well, the thing about women is that they will follow you and change for you if you're the right man, SO… don't worry so much about what they are now.
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08-09-2024, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra
This guy is a high quality person but is a virgin. Meanwhile, Jeremy Meeks married a billionaire. JFL @ the miscers who still insist that women go for good men and good personalities.
One of the most stupid arguing tactics I see over and over is using EXTREME examples as some kind of measure of proof.

Meeks is one of the best looking men on the planet and has status to boot. No chit he has no trouble getting women.
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08-09-2024, 08:42 AM
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One of the most stupid arguing tactics I see over and over is using EXTREME examples as some kind of measure of proof.

Meeks is one of the best looking men on the planet and has status to boot. No chit he has no trouble getting women.


he got massive exposure from going viral.


he would always do well sure but him going viral gave him ACCESS to basically any girl he wants. He found a literal billionaire heiress from it. That wouldnt have happened without the internet and going viral. He would just be getting trailer park pussy 30 years ago.
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08-09-2024, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra
If you want to talk about extreme, the guy I'm talking about put himself through a masters in electrical engineering with no family support, paid his own way. He works hard and works smart, got himself lean, fashionmaxxed, socialmaxxes. He's a superior human being to you and everyone else ITT, yet he's still a virgin. I would imagine there are many like him out there, it's not an extreme outlier. In the case of Meeks in the other direction, same idea. Sure marrying a billionaire is an outlier, but being a good looking POS loser yet still getting women is not rare at all.
That’s a nice story but none of it is even close to extreme.
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08-09-2024, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
the vast majority of "good" women are off the market. most of those remaining are likely very liberal, don't care about having family or have some other problems. many of those former good women will be coming back on the market but they'll be jaded and single mothers. also most of those younger good ones don't want to be with someone over about 4-5 yrs older…for example 20 yr old will want someone 20-25.

you just have to realize past about 27-28 you are dealing with left over scraps.
Very very true and accurate
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08-09-2024, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
he got massive exposure from going viral.


he would always do well sure but him going viral gave him ACCESS to basically any girl he wants. He found a literal billionaire heiress from it. That wouldnt have happened without the internet and going viral. He would just be getting trailer park pussy 30 years ago.
The point is tho, he has elite tier looks.

What you need to understand is that any trait, at an extreme level, is a game changer.

Looks, money and status are highly desirable traits when it comes to romantic/sexual success. Being at an elite tier level in any of the 3, or all 3, will net you insane results.
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08-09-2024, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
One of the most stupid arguing tactics I see over and over is using EXTREME examples as some kind of measure of proof.

Meeks is one of the best looking men on the planet and has status to boot. No chit he has no trouble getting women.
This. He also picked up several high profile modeling gigs and reformed and hasn't been back to prison
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08-09-2024, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra
If you want to talk about extreme, the guy I'm talking about put himself through a masters in electrical engineering with no family support, paid his own way. He works hard and works smart, got himself lean, fashionmaxxed, socialmaxxes. He's a superior human being to you and everyone else ITT, yet he's still a virgin. I would imagine there are many like him out there, it's not an extreme outlier. In the case of Meeks in the other direction, same idea. Sure marrying a billionaire is an outlier, but being a good looking POS loser yet still getting women is not rare at all.
Lol at thinking being virgin at 30 is not an extreme out liar

You have to doing something terribly outrageous wrong towards females to not even get laid once by that point .
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08-09-2024, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
the vast majority of "good" women are off the market. most of those remaining are likely very liberal, don't care about having family or have some other problems. many of those former good women will be coming back on the market but they'll be jaded and single mothers. also most of those younger good ones don't want to be with someone over about 4-5 yrs older…for example 20 yr old will want someone 20-25.

you just have to realize past about 27-28 you are dealing with left over scraps.
that just isn't the case in the real world
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08-09-2024, 09:22 AM
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Most of you don't realize that your aren't deserving of a good woman.


Brb an average dude, but deserve a top 5% woman. Delusional entitlement at its finest.
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08-09-2024, 09:45 AM
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Most of you don't realize that your aren't deserving of a good woman.


Brb an average dude, but deserve a top 5% woman. Delusional entitlement at its finest.
You are right, but thats only because of how rare good women are, and with good women i mean women with good values, good heart, that isnt promiscuos. A woman like that is extremely rare nowadays which yeah, it means most guys wont get one.



Anyway OP, the game has changed. Its not about building a strong family with a good woman anymore, the game has shifted, its about having kids with good genes and making sure they are raised well, smart and strong to lead the next generations to come. Your dream life of a happy wife, happy family, the big hosue and the beautifully painted fence are gone now for most people.


Gather resources, impregnate a woman that is willing to submit to you, and lead her and your offspring to a safe future. Forget about the notebook type of ****, unelss of course you are a top 5% of men, which if you are, you dont want the notebook experience anyway, you want the leonardo dicaprio experience.
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08-09-2024, 09:46 AM
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thx eddie
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08-09-2024, 09:48 AM
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Most of you don't realize that your aren't deserving of a good woman.


Brb an average dude, but deserve a top 5% woman. Delusional entitlement at its finest.
i think a man nearing average would be dilusiinal to think he's getting or deserves a top 5% woman…especially by his late 20s if he's he's seen what's on the market.
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08-09-2024, 09:49 AM
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You are right, but thats only because of how rare good women are, and with good women i mean women with good values, good heart, that isnt promiscuos. A woman like that is extremely rare nowadays which yeah, it means most guys wont get one.



Anyway OP, the game has changed. Its not about building a strong family with a good woman anymore, the game has shifted, its about having kids with good genes and making sure they are raised well, smart and strong to lead the next generations to come. Your dream life of a happy wife, happy family, the big hosue and the beautifully painted fence are gone now for most people.


Gather resources, impregnate a woman that is willing to submit to you, and lead her and your offspring to a safe future. Forget about the notebook type of ****, unelss of course you are a top 5% of men, which if you are, you dont want the notebook experience anyway, you want the leonardo dicaprio experience.
Yup this. Plan to exactly that with my current girl
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that just isn't the case in the real world
sure it is. it only makes sense that women with tons of options (basically all of them) would get filtered out with each passing year after age 18.
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the vast majority of submissive/family oriented women aren't going to be 19 and seriously dating a 30 yr old. they likely come from good homes and know their parents would be like WTF.
Doesn’t apply if she’s Latina
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You are right, but thats only because of how rare good women are, and with good women i mean women with good values, good heart, that isnt promiscuos. A woman like that is extremely rare nowadays which yeah, it means most guys wont get one.



Anyway OP, the game has changed. Its not about building a strong family with a good woman anymore, the game has shifted, its about having kids with good genes and making sure they are raised well, smart and strong to lead the next generations to come. Your dream life of a happy wife, happy family, the big hosue and the beautifully painted fence are gone now for most people.


Gather resources, impregnate a woman that is willing to submit to you, and lead her and your offspring to a safe future. Forget about the notebook type of ****, unelss of course you are a top 5% of men, which if you are, you dont want the notebook experience anyway, you want the leonardo dicaprio experience.
good stuff. yeah, the top 5% men are only out here spreading fantasies for women that they can actually lock a guy like that down if only she meets the right one (because "obviously" those men already "want" them on a sexual level).

"good" women with the qualities you listed/healthy/no psych problems are already rare so the odds of them NOT being filtered out by late 20s is very rare. thus, tours over for the vast majority of late 20s+ men that can't just easily date any age range they want based on looks/status/wealth.
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