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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Lol at not understanding how trends workITT we use cope polls because we dont know how aggregates work
If it keeps opie from climbing a roof then kudos
If it keeps opie from climbing a roof then kudos
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Speaking of "sad and pathetic":Oh dude, stop crying. This is sad and pathetic. Trump doesn't even know you exist.

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Originally Posted By fitnessislife⏩
You canβt be that dumb.Speaking of "sad and pathetic":


Trump is a former president and the GOP nominee.
Moreover, a conman from NY, a convicted felon, a sexual abuser.
I have every rights to remind you cultists what he is all about
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
That's a lot of Camel Toe-esque word salad to say that Trump occupies your mind 24/7.You canβt be that dumb.
Trump is a former president and the GOP nominee.
Moreover, a conman from NY, a convicted felon, a sexual abuser.
I have every rights to remind you cultists what he is all about
Trump is a former president and the GOP nominee.
Moreover, a conman from NY, a convicted felon, a sexual abuser.
I have every rights to remind you cultists what he is all about
Feel free to keep obsessing over a former and future president. We have every right to make fun of you and laugh you out of every thread in response.
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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
How trends work:Lol at not understanding how trends work
A large increase for a dem is a trend
A large increase for Trump is an outlier
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One thing i'm noticing is sometimes these polls leave out RFK. When RFK isn't a factor trump keeps his steady lead, but when you factor in all the 3rd party candidates (RFK/Stein/West) he slips quite a bit.
So its really looking like RFK is holding trump back. I think trump would do much better if rfk just drop out.
So its really looking like RFK is holding trump back. I think trump would do much better if rfk just drop out.
08-10-2024, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
You can get Trump at + money now. If you truly believe he's going to win and there are no signs Kamala is on the up you can make good $$$.ItS a TrEnD
I obviously don't but maybe I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Yeah almost no one on the democrat side is voting RFK Jr. It's only disenfranchised republicans voting for him. He actually might cause Trump the election, ironically.One thing i'm noticing is sometimes these polls leave out RFK. When RFK isn't a factor trump keeps his steady lead, but when you factor in all the 3rd party candidates (RFK/Stein/West) he slips quite a bit.
So its really looking like RFK is holding trump back. I think trump would do much better if rfk just drop out.
So its really looking like RFK is holding trump back. I think trump would do much better if rfk just drop out.
Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
He won't do it, just copes that it's all rigged (but somehow wasn't rigged in 2016?) and not worth it to bet on candidates.You can get Trump at + money now. If you truly believe he's going to win and there are no signs Kamala is on the up you can make good $$$.
I obviously don't but maybe I'm wrong.
I obviously don't but maybe I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Yeh noticed this too. RFK quite simply is hurting Trump a lotOne thing i'm noticing is sometimes these polls leave out RFK. When RFK isn't a factor trump keeps his steady lead, but when you factor in all the 3rd party candidates (RFK/Stein/West) he slips quite a bit.
So its really looking like RFK is holding trump back. I think trump would do much better if rfk just drop out.
So its really looking like RFK is holding trump back. I think trump would do much better if rfk just drop out.
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08-10-2024, 03:49 PM
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MISSED in every swing state in their 2020 Final Poll by 5 or more points in FAVOR of Biden/Harris.
Their misses were outside their own (and any reputable pollsters) MoEs. In many states, they MISSED BY DOUBLE DIGITS!
Wisconsin:
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½+11
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½+.07
βββββββββ
Miss: 10.93 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Michigan:
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +8
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +2.8
βββββββββ
Miss: 5.2 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Pennsylvania
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +6
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +1.2
βββββββββ
Miss: 4.8 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Ohio
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +1
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +8.2
βββββββββ
Miss: 7.2 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Florida
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3.3
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Miss: 6.3 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
North Carolina
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +1.3
βββββββββ
Miss: 4.3 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Iowa
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½+8.2
βββββββββ
Miss: 11.2 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Arizona
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +6
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +.03
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Miss: 5.7 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
STOP FALLING FOR THE SAME
PYSOP USED IN 2020.
Conservatives spent a week saying, βTrump is still up in the betting markets,β then in a matter of days, massive shifts to Harris.
Now conservatives have been saying, βTrump is up in the RCP Swing States,β and magically, we get these absurd results dumped on a Saturday coupled with Bloomberg a week ago meant to put an end to that.
Notice how the media also ignores
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βs swing states polls from yesterday, even though Trafalgar was among the most accurate pollsters in 2020.
Arizona - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +1
Nevada - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +3
North Carolina - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +4
Pennsylvania - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +2
Wisconsin - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +1
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: Conducted: 8/6-8/8)
These media-funded polls are not meant for accuracy. They are meant to drive news cycles, pervert public perception, and depress conservatives.
Put frankly, they are media driven voter suppression and propaganda operations.
Here is a leftist poll aggregate source that is not cooking the numbers THE WASHINGTON POST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...cker_p009_f006


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MISSED in every swing state in their 2020 Final Poll by 5 or more points in FAVOR of Biden/Harris.
Their misses were outside their own (and any reputable pollsters) MoEs. In many states, they MISSED BY DOUBLE DIGITS!
Wisconsin:
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½+11
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½+.07
βββββββββ
Miss: 10.93 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Michigan:
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +8
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +2.8
βββββββββ
Miss: 5.2 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Pennsylvania
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +6
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +1.2
βββββββββ
Miss: 4.8 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Ohio
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +1
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +8.2
βββββββββ
Miss: 7.2 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Florida
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3.3
βββββββββ
Miss: 6.3 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
North Carolina
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +1.3
βββββββββ
Miss: 4.3 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Iowa
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +3
β’ Actual: Trump οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½+8.2
βββββββββ
Miss: 11.2 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
Arizona
β’ Poll: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +6
β’ Actual: Biden οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ +.03
βββββββββ
Miss: 5.7 points in favor of οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½
STOP FALLING FOR THE SAME
PYSOP USED IN 2020.
Conservatives spent a week saying, βTrump is still up in the betting markets,β then in a matter of days, massive shifts to Harris.
Now conservatives have been saying, βTrump is up in the RCP Swing States,β and magically, we get these absurd results dumped on a Saturday coupled with Bloomberg a week ago meant to put an end to that.
Notice how the media also ignores
@trafalgar_group
βs swing states polls from yesterday, even though Trafalgar was among the most accurate pollsters in 2020.
Arizona - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +1
Nevada - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +3
North Carolina - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +4
Pennsylvania - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +2
Wisconsin - οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Trump +1
(
@trafalgar_group
: Conducted: 8/6-8/8)
These media-funded polls are not meant for accuracy. They are meant to drive news cycles, pervert public perception, and depress conservatives.
Put frankly, they are media driven voter suppression and propaganda operations.
Here is a leftist poll aggregate source that is not cooking the numbers THE WASHINGTON POST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...cker_p009_f006
OP BTFO
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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
Harris can't even handle a Press Conference, but she'll "crush" a two hour debate? What you guys come up with is pure comedy goldThe only problem for Trump is that he isn't debating an old Biden this time. She's going to crush him and make him look like a man child, similar to what Biden did to Trump in 2020.

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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
She can do a press conference just fine. It's unnecessary right now though, they're being strategic about it. Just let Trump look like a deranged buffoon and they'll sweep like 2020.Harris can't even handle a Press Conference, but she'll "crush" a two hour debate? What you guys come up with is pure comedy gold

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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
Let's look at the actual Battleground state results from that site:https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris
Arizona: Trump +1.5
Georgia: Trump +0.6
Michigan: Harris +2.4Michigan: Harris +2.4
Nevada: Trump +3.5
N. Carolina: Trump +3.2
Pennsylvania: Trump +0.8
Wisconsin: Harris +0.8Wisconsin: Harris +0.8
So, you are technically correct.TWOstates with Harris ahead can be described as "multiple"

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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
Sureeeeeee whatever you need to tell yourself that she's not a fuking retard.She can do a press conference just fine. It's unnecessary right now though, they're being strategic about it. Just let Trump look like a deranged buffoon and they'll sweep like 2020.
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin⏩
That's been the Harris strategy for the past three weeks, since Biden ran off...Doubtful unless they use the Biden strategy of hiding her from asking her any meaningful questions.
Btw are we gonna post every new pole that comes?
Only when OP can pretend that some polls make Harris look good
He's flip-flopped a stunning number of times when it comes to polls...
Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
But somehow one week into August polls are magically the gold standard7-18-2024
Lol cope.July polls are worthless. .... By the time October rolls around, July events will be long forgotten....
Lol cope.July polls are worthless. .... By the time October rolls around, July events will be long forgotten....

Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
Then you started looking at polls7-14-2024
It'll fizzle out though by October.Kind of surprised people don't realize this. It's why youdon't look at polls until around September/October.
It'll fizzle out though by October.Kind of surprised people don't realize this. It's why youdon't look at polls until around September/October.

Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
Literally nothing in this thread matters, according to him7-14-2024
Lol it's not over, not even close. We're4 months away from the election, that is more or less an eternitywhen it comes to an election. America has asupershort term memory - hence whyliterally none of this will matter come October.
Lol it's not over, not even close. We're4 months away from the election, that is more or less an eternitywhen it comes to an election. America has asupershort term memory - hence whyliterally none of this will matter come October.

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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
If you're going to bet you can make a killing right now. The betting markets just go off current national pollsYou can get Trump at + money now. If you truly believe he's going to win and there are no signs Kamala is on the up you can make good $$$.
I obviously don't but maybe I'm wrong.
I obviously don't but maybe I'm wrong.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...ssage-00173515
Cliffs: Kamala so desperate to hold onto nevada she's holding rallies there and copying trumps tax position
The takeaway here is that campaigns that believe they are surging dont steal policy positions from their opponent
She's fuked without the working class vote and thats who she is tanking with
Cliffs: Kamala so desperate to hold onto nevada she's holding rallies there and copying trumps tax position
The takeaway here is that campaigns that believe they are surging dont steal policy positions from their opponent
She's fuked without the working class vote and thats who she is tanking with
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Trump is phucked with the blue collar, working class vote in the rust belt. His trickle down policies are extremely unpopular there. Hence him losing Wisconsin even on RCP averagehttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...ssage-00173515
Cliffs: Kamala so desperate to hold onto nevada she's holding rallies there and copying trumps tax position
The takeaway here is that campaigns that believe they are surging dont steal policy positions from their opponent
She's fuked without the working class vote and thats who she is tanking with
Cliffs: Kamala so desperate to hold onto nevada she's holding rallies there and copying trumps tax position
The takeaway here is that campaigns that believe they are surging dont steal policy positions from their opponent
She's fuked without the working class vote and thats who she is tanking with
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Your cope polls achieve their results in part by under sampling blue collarTrump is phucked with the blue collar, working class vote in the rust belt. His trickle down policies are extremely unpopular there. Hence him losing Wisconsin even on RCP average
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Trickle down economics doesn't play with blue collar rust belt votersYour cope polls achieve their results in part by under sampling blue collar
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
She's doing so great there bro!...https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...ssage-00173515
Cliffs: Kamala so desperate to hold onto nevada she's holding rallies there and copying trumps tax position
The takeaway here is that campaigns that believe they are surging dont steal policy positions from their opponent
She's fuked without the working class vote and thats who she is tanking with
Cliffs: Kamala so desperate to hold onto nevada she's holding rallies there and copying trumps tax position
The takeaway here is that campaigns that believe they are surging dont steal policy positions from their opponent
She's fuked without the working class vote and thats who she is tanking with
Oh wait, what's this
They had to cover up the 1000s of empty seats LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
And yet your cope polls achieve their results in part by under sampling blue collarTrickle down economics doesn't play with blue collar rust belt voters
Originally Posted By turk75⏩
It was the same at her rally in NVShe's doing so great there bro!...
Oh wait, what's this
They had to cover up the 1000s of empty seats LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Oh wait, what's this
They had to cover up the 1000s of empty seats LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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The thing with Trump is he's doing absolutely nothing to bring people out to vote for him who would otherwise stay home, and he certainly isn't converting people over to his policies. If anything, every time he comes back into public he makes another gaffe or stupid statement that only serves up more softballs for the other side. Harris is building back the support that Biden lost by showing she's exactly what most Democrats want, which is a stable, experienced person rather than an old man who's senile.
There's zero people in the country who will be on the fence about who to vote for and look at Trump versus Harris and pick Trump (unless they are already Trumpers). If anything, it might just keep a few people home but that's about all GOP can hope for.
And I have no idea how anyone thinks Trump will beat Harris in a debate. You seriously have to be delusional about his speaking skills and his ability to actually argue with people beyond personal insults and saying false information over and over again. The problem with Biden was he didn't want to call him out directly, but I don't see Harris having that problem.
There's zero people in the country who will be on the fence about who to vote for and look at Trump versus Harris and pick Trump (unless they are already Trumpers). If anything, it might just keep a few people home but that's about all GOP can hope for.
And I have no idea how anyone thinks Trump will beat Harris in a debate. You seriously have to be delusional about his speaking skills and his ability to actually argue with people beyond personal insults and saying false information over and over again. The problem with Biden was he didn't want to call him out directly, but I don't see Harris having that problem.
08-11-2024, 01:19 PM
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David axelrod explains:
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As for NYT polls in PA, MI and WI today, some of the internal numbers seem improbable--42% for Harris among non-college whites, for one eg. If you adjust for them, you're probably looking at basically tied races (maybe a tick better for Harris in WI), which is where most, private, high-quality polling has them
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As for NYT polls in PA, MI and WI today, some of the internal numbers seem improbable--42% for Harris among non-college whites, for one eg. If you adjust for them, you're probably looking at basically tied races (maybe a tick better for Harris in WI), which is where most, private, high-quality polling has them
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08-11-2024, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
How come you are always sucking Trump's dink?Only if I die from laughter at yet another laughingstock failure from OP...
Trumper is a loser.
Trump is going to lose bigly
08-11-2024, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
As usual, deflect. I called out YOUR lies. That has nothing to do with Trump or anyone else, they're YOUR deceptive claims.How come you are always sucking Trump's dink?
"Harris leads Trump in multiple new BATTLEGROUND state polls"... As already shown:Two. Two out of Seven, while technically "multiple", it just makes YOU a laughingstock. Nothing to do with Trump.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris
Arizona: Trump +1.5
Georgia: Trump +0.6
Michigan: Harris +2.4Michigan: Harris +2.4
Nevada: Trump +3.5
N. Carolina: Trump +3.2
Pennsylvania: Trump +0.8
Wisconsin: Harris +0.8Wisconsin: Harris +0.8
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