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08-13-2024, 05:52 PM
#31
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
But you are a self professed trust fund baby. What would your networth be without what your parents have given you?
Lol, I have a higher net worth than you….
Also, where's the proof?
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08-13-2024, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
He’s actually DISproved his supposed wealth multiple times by demonstrating a lack of basic understanding about real estate, tax, markets, monetary policy and basic economics.
But you are a self professed trust find baby. What would your networth be without what your parents have given you?
Also, where's the proof?
Also, where's the proof?
Plus directly admitting that he is a rentcuck, owns no assets and manages supposed real estate investments on behalf of his father (nobody cares if the latter point is true or not)
Anyone with any wealth has at least a high-level or intuitive knowledge of the matters listed above. OllyHomeless does not.
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08-13-2024, 06:04 PM
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This guy is a scammer, anyone selling a course is a grifter regardless if you guys agree with them or not.
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08-13-2024, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Damn oliver, is this true? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's not looking good.
He’s actually DISproved his supposed wealth multiple times by demonstrating a lack of basic understanding about real estate, tax, markets, monetary policy and basic economics.
Plus directly admitting that he is a rentcuck, owns no assets and manages supposed real estate investments on behalf of his father (nobody cares if the latter point is true or not)
Anyone with any wealth has at least a high-level or intuitive knowledge of the matters listed above. OllyHomeless does not.
Plus directly admitting that he is a rentcuck, owns no assets and manages supposed real estate investments on behalf of his father (nobody cares if the latter point is true or not)
Anyone with any wealth has at least a high-level or intuitive knowledge of the matters listed above. OllyHomeless does not.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
08-13-2024, 06:09 PM
#35
What he really means is he wants to normalize all of you working 72 hours a week for him between the ages of 16-28
08-13-2024, 06:19 PM
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Young dudes waste far too much time on dead end entertainment. Then they want to whine about not being able to afford a house. Inflation. Having to work until they're 80 years old. Etc.
I worked a good bit of over-time and at a side hustle in my 20s and it put me dramatically ahead in life. To the point where life in my 30s is easy mode. My house/living expenses are cheap as hell. My savings and investments are stacked. I can spend on luxury without a worry. And I'll be able to retire young.
My advice to any young dude would be work long and hard. Save/invest a portion of your income. Pay your bills. And the remaining is for luxury. Scale your income over-time while keeping expenses low. And stay debt free aside from a mortgage. You want to hit your mid 30s-early 40s with life on easy mode. Not be some cuck who obsesses over whether or not its more financially advantageous to rent or buy a home. Or not be able to conceive of even being able to buy a home. Etc.
Yeah it sucks to work that much. But do you know what else sucks? Being a grown man in your 30s-40s and being broke as ****, check to check, with no end in sight.
I worked a good bit of over-time and at a side hustle in my 20s and it put me dramatically ahead in life. To the point where life in my 30s is easy mode. My house/living expenses are cheap as hell. My savings and investments are stacked. I can spend on luxury without a worry. And I'll be able to retire young.
My advice to any young dude would be work long and hard. Save/invest a portion of your income. Pay your bills. And the remaining is for luxury. Scale your income over-time while keeping expenses low. And stay debt free aside from a mortgage. You want to hit your mid 30s-early 40s with life on easy mode. Not be some cuck who obsesses over whether or not its more financially advantageous to rent or buy a home. Or not be able to conceive of even being able to buy a home. Etc.
Yeah it sucks to work that much. But do you know what else sucks? Being a grown man in your 30s-40s and being broke as ****, check to check, with no end in sight.
08-13-2024, 06:26 PM
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He's not wrong that if you want to build big money you need to trade your energy when you're young for XP to build your value.
I worked 7x16 in my 20s and 30s. Had no family, just 100% hustle 100% of the time. Built a business today (electricity and carbon trading) that is worth low 9 figures (based on multiple acquisition attempts that I've rejected). If I worked normal hours and had a family it wouldn't have been remotely possible.
When you hit your 40s it's a whole different game and your energy drops like a rock so you better have XP by then to make up for it.
But working like that is absolutely ****ing brutal and takes an iron will, something 99.999% of people do not have…..most will end up getting burnt out and end up worse off unfortunately.
I worked 7x16 in my 20s and 30s. Had no family, just 100% hustle 100% of the time. Built a business today (electricity and carbon trading) that is worth low 9 figures (based on multiple acquisition attempts that I've rejected). If I worked normal hours and had a family it wouldn't have been remotely possible.
When you hit your 40s it's a whole different game and your energy drops like a rock so you better have XP by then to make up for it.
But working like that is absolutely ****ing brutal and takes an iron will, something 99.999% of people do not have…..most will end up getting burnt out and end up worse off unfortunately.
Booo
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08-13-2024, 07:01 PM
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All im hearing from this guy is "sacrifice your life at the altar of success so you can be exactly like everyone else"
Pulling 60 hour weeks in your 20's isn't going to make you a millionaire.
If you want big bucks then you have to do what nobody else is doing. Most people are clocking 40. If you clock 60, you are still at the same place. You need an opportunity that scales, and hopefully scales in its time commitment. Yeah you might put some long hours in at first, but if its always going to be that way then you are in the wrong business.
The thing I hate about these grifters is that they think everyone can just spot a good opportunity. There was the palm pilot, the blackberry, and the iphone. Not everything is always going to work out. Buy that course though.
Pulling 60 hour weeks in your 20's isn't going to make you a millionaire.
If you want big bucks then you have to do what nobody else is doing. Most people are clocking 40. If you clock 60, you are still at the same place. You need an opportunity that scales, and hopefully scales in its time commitment. Yeah you might put some long hours in at first, but if its always going to be that way then you are in the wrong business.
The thing I hate about these grifters is that they think everyone can just spot a good opportunity. There was the palm pilot, the blackberry, and the iphone. Not everything is always going to work out. Buy that course though.
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08-13-2024, 07:05 PM
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If you want to be a true self made millionaire you’ll have to do that grind at some point. May as well do it when you’re young and have the energy
I did it in my late 20s to mid 30s and now I’m so burnt out I don’t work more than 10 hours a week lol
I did it in my late 20s to mid 30s and now I’m so burnt out I don’t work more than 10 hours a week lol
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08-13-2024, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
It's tough to say. I personally have like $700k in all my accounts, but my personal Real Estate Development projects have increased the family net worth by something like $8-9M over the past 5 years and I have taken no pay for these projects. So it really depends how you want to claddify things. Definitely not just some lazy trust fund baby, I haven't received a penny of support from my parents since like 2011.
But you are a self professed trust fund baby. What would your networth be without what your parents have given you?
Also, where's the proof?
Also, where's the proof?
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08-13-2024, 07:16 PM
#41
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Lol, I ain't worried about anything he says. You can choose to believe it or not, it's up to you.
Damn oliver, is this true? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's not looking good.
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08-13-2024, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Same, I did it late 20s and 30s, and fully burnt out. Still right now I'm finishing out the tail end of a RE Development project that is like 8/10 stress level, and starting to wonder, "Do I really even need to do this chit anymore?!? Like it there seriously anything left to prove?"
If you want to be a true self made millionaire you’ll have to do that grind at some point. May as well do it when you’re young and have the energy
I did it in my late 20s to mid 30s and now I’m so burnt out I don’t work more than 10 hours a week lol
I did it in my late 20s to mid 30s and now I’m so burnt out I don’t work more than 10 hours a week lol
But then I get bored and sign up for another one, and start the process over again.
Once you have all of the processes and mechanisms in place to earn large sums of money fairly easily, it's tough to resist. Unless I decided to go full travelcel and do an overseas trip for a year, but to be honest I've already done that and it doesn't excite me that much anymore.
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08-13-2024, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Didn’t read
Same, I did it late 20s and 30s, and fully burnt out. Still right now I'm finishing out the tail end of a RE Development project that is like 8/10 stress level, and starting to wonder, "Do I really even need to do this chit anymore?!? Like it there seriously anything left to prove?"
But then I get bored and sign up for another one, and start the process over again.
Once you have all of the processes and mechanisms in place to earn large sums of money fairly easily, it's tough to resist. Unless I decided to go full travelcel and do an overseas trip for a year, but to be honest I've already done that and it doesn't excite me that much anymore.
But then I get bored and sign up for another one, and start the process over again.
Once you have all of the processes and mechanisms in place to earn large sums of money fairly easily, it's tough to resist. Unless I decided to go full travelcel and do an overseas trip for a year, but to be honest I've already done that and it doesn't excite me that much anymore.
You did nothing on your own, you haven’t even surpassed your father in net worth. Your opinion on what self made people need to do is irrelevant
Self made people came from nothing (poor parents) and made something of themselves
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08-13-2024, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
This. Somebody gets a big break somewhere. We live in a society.
Nobody is truly self made. We live in a society.
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08-13-2024, 07:35 PM
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So, he wants military aged men at the peak of their lives slaving away for a man like him to make them richer, while they collect the scraps? If they're going to work that hard at those peak ages, they may as well be more productive by building a network of mentors to build a business.
08-13-2024, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
hard work helps to an extent but it wont get you to be ultra wealthy. there is more going on at the top then just hard work (luck, nepotism, inherited wealth, corruption, etc…). stuff like this video is similar to saying youll get a god tier physique by working hard in the gym and never mentioning cell tech.
So basically he's yet another life coach scammer telling young men to"work harder" like Andrew Tate and all those other goons?
Pure foolishness.
Boyos, as I've said many times: if you're earning your paycheck, then you're failing miserably at the game of life.
The easiest path to wealth for most people is actually to be a W-2 employee and leech off your employer. Get as much pay as possible, do as little work as possible, company hop every 2 years and climb the ladder while contributing absolutely NOTHING to the organization.
Only fools believe this "work harder" bullsh/t….
Pure foolishness.
Boyos, as I've said many times: if you're earning your paycheck, then you're failing miserably at the game of life.
The easiest path to wealth for most people is actually to be a W-2 employee and leech off your employer. Get as much pay as possible, do as little work as possible, company hop every 2 years and climb the ladder while contributing absolutely NOTHING to the organization.
Only fools believe this "work harder" bullsh/t….
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08-13-2024, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
We can make reasonable distinctions from people that came from means (such as yourself) vs people that did not (such as myself)
Nobody is truly self made. We live in a society.
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08-13-2024, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHomeless⏩
Lmao poverton confirmed
It's tough to say. I personally have like $700k in all my accounts, but my personal Real Estate Development projects have increased the family net worth by something like $8-9M over the past 5 years and I have taken no pay for these projects. So it really depends how you want to claddify things. Definitely not just some lazy trust fund baby, I haven't received a penny of support from my parents since like 2011.
As I said, your net worth is less than my net annual income
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08-13-2024, 07:44 PM
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Only doing this if I can land an investment banking analyst job when I graduate, only career field worth slaving for
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08-13-2024, 07:47 PM
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Self made millionaire here. I took a different route. I picked a hard major, worked a harder job, lived very cheaply and invested everything. Now I’m 38 and could retire and just focus on my farm but I love my job.
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08-13-2024, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
Many Miscers seethe at the OP but they'll spend their early 20s playing games and raging online at successful folks who put the work in.
I personally did 80 hours a week for 20+ years and then cut down to 40 when having a kid.
When guys are young, single, don't have kids and spend their freetime playing xbox and watching netflix/porn, then yes, working more hours than they do is a good idea. They will be in a better long term financial position and can cut back when they have a family.
As to whether 72 hours a week is a good idea for everybody? Most people can't hack those hours. They simply don't have the mental fortitude for it.
When guys are young, single, don't have kids and spend their freetime playing xbox and watching netflix/porn, then yes, working more hours than they do is a good idea. They will be in a better long term financial position and can cut back when they have a family.
As to whether 72 hours a week is a good idea for everybody? Most people can't hack those hours. They simply don't have the mental fortitude for it.
Indeed they lack the mental fortitude, but I do wonder what sort of parents they had. Worse, what sort of parents they are or will become.
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08-13-2024, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
It’s not realistic. Can’t change the system when everyone with the power to do so is in on the take. And things are too comfortable for any sort of uprising
I fully agree. That's why I am a socialist. You are correct. The class divide is real. That's why I want you people to have housing, healthcare, education, clean food and water. It isn't fair that some get it and others do not. Everyone deserves that.
I prefer to just focus on what I can do
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08-13-2024, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
Nah
It absolutely is realistic. They have conned you into thinking it isn't. We don't even need a bloody uprising. Just demand better. It's that simple.
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08-13-2024, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
I don't claim to be self made at all. But I'm also not your typical trust funder, like whoever was accusing.
Didn’t read
You did nothing on your own, you haven’t even surpassed your father in net worth. Your opinion on what self made people need to do is irrelevant
Self made people came from nothing (poor parents) and made something of themselves
You did nothing on your own, you haven’t even surpassed your father in net worth. Your opinion on what self made people need to do is irrelevant
Self made people came from nothing (poor parents) and made something of themselves
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08-13-2024, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
That’s fine, I’m not saying you’re a bad person. I’m just saying you don’t understand what it’s like to have no fallback plan, you either make it or you’re homeless. So your perspective isn’t particularly useful
I don't claim to be self made at all. But I'm also not your typical trust funder, like whoever was accusing.
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08-13-2024, 08:15 PM
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72+ hours a week drove me insane. I did hours similar to that during the first 2-4 years of my career due to staffing shortages and while I did make enough money to put a down payment on my house I currently live in, I would never recommend it. Longest consecutive stretch of 12+ hour shifts I did was 16 days in a row. Now, I rarely ever take overtime and I enjoy my weekends.
08-13-2024, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Eh, this isn't entirely true. Because my family hasn't always been rich, and I've definitely been broke before for short periods of time(not recently though). I still have an intense drive to succeed on things although the incremental benefit of each new accomplishment is rather low at this point.
That’s fine, I’m not saying you’re a bad person. I’m just saying you don’t understand what it’s like to have no fallback plan, you either make it or you’re homeless. So your perspective isn’t particularly useful
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08-13-2024, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Nah
Eh, this isn't entirely true. Because my family hasn't always been rich, and I've definitely been broke before for short periods of time(not recently though). I still have an intense drive to succeed on things although the incremental benefit of each new accomplishment is rather low at this point.
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08-13-2024, 08:25 PM
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i knew someone who worked 45-60 hours a week but became a millionaire, but they worked smart/efficiently. I hardly ever saw them work more than 70 hours in one week
all this hustle circlejerk influencer lifecoach stuff is getting annoying
all this hustle circlejerk influencer lifecoach stuff is getting annoying
08-13-2024, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By deadorange⏩
How about don't have kids you can't afford. You're talking about a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist and wouldn't exist if people were a little more responsible.
And this is why people should support the dems. Things like the expanded child tax credit can have a HUGE impact on poverty for working class families.
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