08-15-2024, 06:24 PM
#31
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
lul always some miscer to talk chit
Why are you day trading on worse margins than long term holds? Short term capital gains vs holding a year needs more movement then that imo.
lets see here, xyz stock shoots up 5-10% in one day (USD, NVDX, NVDL, QLD, SOXL, SMCI, UNIT, NVTS, MPW, AVGO…….. and on)
>> sell off
>> buy back friday or monday when it yo-yo's back down
yeaaa what a horrendous idea
tf are you talking about "worse margins than longterm holds?"
huh?
longterm holds? like 15+ percent? ok…….
yet i sell off at a 5% gain in one fukkin day
i mean did you even think about what you just said before you typed it?
why are you asking about margins on day trading when its one day out of 365 and unless youre some fukkin guru you arent pulling in 15% a day 365 days a year
i mean did you REALLY just insinuate your day-trading profits need to be MORE in one single day than an entire year?
some of yall miscers worry me.
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08-15-2024, 06:31 PM
#32
Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
Yes a 5% gain doesn’t offset getting ****ed by over 15% cuz you will always be ok with handing over a larger chunk to the govt for miniscule increases in position.
lul always some miscer to talk chit
lets see here, xyz stock shoots up 5-10% in one day
>> sell off
>> buy back friday or monday when it yo-yo's back down
yeaaa what a horrendous idea
tf are you talking about "worse margins than longterm holds?"
huh?
longterm holds? like 15+ percent? ok…….
yet i sell off at a 5% gain in one fukkin day
i mean did you even think about what you just said before you typed it?
some of yall miscers worry me.
lets see here, xyz stock shoots up 5-10% in one day
>> sell off
>> buy back friday or monday when it yo-yo's back down
yeaaa what a horrendous idea
tf are you talking about "worse margins than longterm holds?"
huh?
longterm holds? like 15+ percent? ok…….
yet i sell off at a 5% gain in one fukkin day
i mean did you even think about what you just said before you typed it?
some of yall miscers worry me.
How many extra shares did you net buddy, was it worth giving 15% of your entire portfolio to the govt that you didn’t have too? Because you will if you never end up actually investing and keep plugging into day trading your long term holds, which is what buying back into the same company sounds like.
Let alone what happens when you start wash sales because you aren’t perfect. Then you really fuk yourself.
We seem to be experimenting some technological differences.
08-15-2024, 06:33 PM
#33
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
its confirmed, you're really fukkin stupid because even if this were in a
brokerage
account, it would be short-term capital gains tax on
profit
Yes a 5% gain doesn’t offset getting ****ed by over 15% cuz you will always be ok with handing over a larger chunk to the govt for miniscule increases in position.
How many extra shares did you net buddy, was it worth giving 15% of your entire portfolio to the govt that you didn’t have too?
Retard
How many extra shares did you net buddy, was it worth giving 15% of your entire portfolio to the govt that you didn’t have too?
Retard
LOL.
are you really that stupid? did you NOT know that Roth funds can be traded tax-free?
did you not know you only pay capital gains tax on PROFIT in a brokerage account?
and if day-trading is so immoral you dip ****, why hasnt everyone listened to your dumb***? HOW can anyone ever make any money at it?
why, you need to hurry on up to wallstreet and tell them!!
fukkin idiot.
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08-15-2024, 06:37 PM
#34
Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
yeah that was a weird statement.
its confirmed, you're really fukkin stupid because even if this were in a
brokerage
account, it would be short-term capital gains tax on
profit
LOL.
LOL.
The misc has a lot of people pretending they trade.
except:
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
That's exactly what is happening. This should have burned down already but it is propped up intentionally. You cannot have a real capitalistic system with a fed this aggressive…
Except that type of a crash would be exponentially worse because actually, it can’t be covered.
Do you fuks even realize the derivative bubble is approaching a quadrillion dollars ?
How much money exists again
What kind of margins are boa, chase, and goldmans playing with?
Lmao a crash these days is so far beyond the scope of anything that’s ever been seen which is why we’ve been sukking big daddy greenspans puts dik for the past three decades.
Because at least a Ponzi scheme with fed support is better than what will happen if chit goes tits up.
But we are the generation that will need to deal with it. We need it to crash and burn.
Or else we’re all just fighting over scraps while trillionaires are born
Do you fuks even realize the derivative bubble is approaching a quadrillion dollars ?
How much money exists again
What kind of margins are boa, chase, and goldmans playing with?
Lmao a crash these days is so far beyond the scope of anything that’s ever been seen which is why we’ve been sukking big daddy greenspans puts dik for the past three decades.
Because at least a Ponzi scheme with fed support is better than what will happen if chit goes tits up.
But we are the generation that will need to deal with it. We need it to crash and burn.
Or else we’re all just fighting over scraps while trillionaires are born
At some point you have to realize that they only care about getting the largest PROPORTION of money….they don't care if they have to print more to do it. They will burn down the country one bond at a time just so they can print free money for esg and dei. We have witnessed a financial coup. This was not a natural, just, or benevolent market event.
Some have found their niche in this and have blinded themselves to the reality of the system they partake in. I've done really fukn well in tech because I am an EE. In that way, my bias made me very lucky. I did not foresee AI becoming so dominant or Intel chitting the bed like this. I just happened to like AMD bought some etherium cheap 7 years ago.
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08-15-2024, 06:42 PM
#35
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
> day-trades
yeah that was a weird statement.
The misc has a lot of people pretending they trade.
except:
That's exactly what is happening. This should have burned down already but it is propped up intentionally. You cannot have a real capitalistic system with a fed this aggressive…
The misc has a lot of people pretending they trade.
except:
That's exactly what is happening. This should have burned down already but it is propped up intentionally. You cannot have a real capitalistic system with a fed this aggressive…
> doesnt know the tax implications of trading in a Roth account vs Brokerage account.
pick one.
not to mention day-trading means NOT holding anything overnight…. as in…. no positions whatsoever.
do both of you not understand? LOL.
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08-15-2024, 06:44 PM
#36
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I don’t feel like I’m getting my point across appropriately.
yeah that was a weird statement.
The misc has a lot of people pretending they trade.
except:
That's exactly what is happening. This should have burned down already but it is propped up intentionally. You cannot have a real capitalistic system with a fed this aggressive…
The misc has a lot of people pretending they trade.
except:
That's exactly what is happening. This should have burned down already but it is propped up intentionally. You cannot have a real capitalistic system with a fed this aggressive…
Playing around with day trading is fine.
But using your whole portfolio to do so seems really stupid to me and even if it was for 5% here 6% there, never being able to cash out the entire thing without incurring short term capital gains tax seems really really bad to me.
We seem to be experimenting some technological differences.
08-15-2024, 06:46 PM
#37
Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
OH I get it, I just think the overview of what was happening was correct.
> day-trades
> doesnt know the tax implications of trading in a Roth account vs Brokerage account.
pick one.
not to mention day-trading means NOT holding anything overnight…. as in…. no positions whatsoever.
do both of you not understand? LOL.
> doesnt know the tax implications of trading in a Roth account vs Brokerage account.
pick one.
not to mention day-trading means NOT holding anything overnight…. as in…. no positions whatsoever.
do both of you not understand? LOL.
No one who has ever received a 1099 thought they were getting taxed on losses or absolute amounts. Not to mention, eventually the success of every day trader trends to 0. At least from what I've read in studies.
I'll swing trade, but day trading is arbitrary. Sometimes you've got to stick with the rebound. Day traders who sell low cannot really be successful without basically insider trading.
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08-15-2024, 06:48 PM
#38
Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
This is the first time you’ve even mentioned a Roth account fukface. And if you want to split hairs over semantics on day trading vs short holds then why are you switching to acting like you were actually day trading now instead of your original story of glancing at your portfolio and paper handing it.
its confirmed, you're really fukkin stupid because even if this were in a
brokerage
account, it would be short-term capital gains tax on
profit
LOL.
are you really that stupid? did you NOT know that Roth funds can be traded tax-free?
did you not know you only pay capital gains tax on PROFIT in a brokerage account?
and if day-trading is so immoral you dip ****, why hasnt everyone listened to your dumb***? HOW can anyone ever make any money at it?
why, you need to hurry on up to wallstreet and tell them!!
fukkin idiot.
LOL.
are you really that stupid? did you NOT know that Roth funds can be traded tax-free?
did you not know you only pay capital gains tax on PROFIT in a brokerage account?
and if day-trading is so immoral you dip ****, why hasnt everyone listened to your dumb***? HOW can anyone ever make any money at it?
why, you need to hurry on up to wallstreet and tell them!!
fukkin idiot.
Bitch
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08-15-2024, 06:50 PM
#39
you can't make money this angry lol
objectivity just goes out the fukkin window
objectivity just goes out the fukkin window
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08-15-2024, 07:22 PM
#40
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
exactly where did i say i was using my "whole portfolio" to do this?
I don’t feel like I’m getting my point across appropriately.
Playing around with day trading is fine.
But using your whole portfolio to do so seems really stupid to me and even if it was for 5% here 6% there, never being able to cash out the entire thing without incurring short term capital gains tax seems really really bad to me.
Playing around with day trading is fine.
But using your whole portfolio to do so seems really stupid to me and even if it was for 5% here 6% there, never being able to cash out the entire thing without incurring short term capital gains tax seems really really bad to me.
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
then youre an idiot for assuming it WASNT in a roth, and an even bigger dumbfuk for NOT knowing it's short-term capital gains on PROFIT.
This is the first time you’ve even mentioned a Roth account fukface. And if you want to split hairs over semantics on day trading vs short holds then why are you switching to acting like you were actually day trading now instead of your original story of glancing at your portfolio and paper handing it.
Bitch
Bitch
again, b/c youre broken inside and a fukking moron you wanted to create some storyline in your head wherein i sold off my entire BROKERAGE account for a measly 5% profit while somehow getting hit with 15% on the ENTIRE account - NOT profit only (strong wtf).
this is why it's dying here - b/c of ph@gg0ts like you.
fukk this place & fukk you too, bitch.
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08-15-2024, 07:41 PM
#41
Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
exactly where did i say i was using my "whole portfolio" to do this?
then youre an idiot for assuming it WASNT in a roth, and an even bigger dumbfuk for NOT knowing it's short-term capital gains on PROFIT.
again, b/c youre broken inside and a fukking moron you wanted to create some storyline in your head wherein i sold off my entire BROKERAGE account for a measly 5% profit while somehow getting hit with 15% on the ENTIRE account - NOT profit only (strong wtf).
this is why it's dying here - b/c of ph@gg0ts like you.
fukk this place & fukk you too, bitch.
then youre an idiot for assuming it WASNT in a roth, and an even bigger dumbfuk for NOT knowing it's short-term capital gains on PROFIT.
again, b/c youre broken inside and a fukking moron you wanted to create some storyline in your head wherein i sold off my entire BROKERAGE account for a measly 5% profit while somehow getting hit with 15% on the ENTIRE account - NOT profit only (strong wtf).
this is why it's dying here - b/c of ph@gg0ts like you.
fukk this place & fukk you too, bitch.
No you fuk when you want to sell in 10 years. And you are selling profit from your portfolio, or in retirement. And you keep making moves like this and keeping your ENTIRE portfolio from becoming long term hold. That would be when the govt takes 15%
****
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08-16-2024, 05:39 AM
#42
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
I agree that we can't let it crash even though we should. But to me, that means it's even more critically important to hold stonks. Yeah, fine, we'll have a trillionaire overlord class and $5M won't be much anymore, but one certainly won't get there by not investing either, which was the main point I'm trying to make. Stonks are, over the long run, the best and most accessible way to build wealth yet so few people do it. It blows my mind. People who are surgeons making multiples of what I do in salary yet not investing and potentially losing out to dorks like me who autistically buy and hold what I can afford to like it's my religion.
Except that type of a crash would be exponentially worse because actually, it can’t be covered.
Do you fuks even realize the derivative bubble is approaching a quadrillion dollars ?
How much money exists again
What kind of margins are boa, chase, and goldmans playing with?
Lmao a crash these days is so far beyond the scope of anything that’s ever been seen which is why we’ve been sukking big daddy greenspans puts dik for the past three decades.
Because at least a Ponzi scheme with fed support is better than what will happen if chit goes tits up.
But we are the generation that will need to deal with it. We need it to crash and burn.
Or else we’re all just fighting over scraps while trillionaires are born
Do you fuks even realize the derivative bubble is approaching a quadrillion dollars ?
How much money exists again
What kind of margins are boa, chase, and goldmans playing with?
Lmao a crash these days is so far beyond the scope of anything that’s ever been seen which is why we’ve been sukking big daddy greenspans puts dik for the past three decades.
Because at least a Ponzi scheme with fed support is better than what will happen if chit goes tits up.
But we are the generation that will need to deal with it. We need it to crash and burn.
Or else we’re all just fighting over scraps while trillionaires are born
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08-16-2024, 05:46 AM
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Wait until Harris is in office, market is going to take off.
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08-16-2024, 09:45 AM
#44
Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
son are you gay ? I already said that you could do that. Did you not read my piss ? Frikken noob asses learn how to read you brokecel bish i piss you. It takes BALLS OF STEEL to "reinvest" for 27 damn years. You couldn't do it. You'd be emotionally cucked. I promise you that noob.
You can still keep investing during that timeframe at lower levels, buy relatively larger quantities of shares with the same amount of money, and generate a positive return. Nobody says what you have now is all you'll ever own. JFL at panicels that can't build generational wealth because of "muh fears"
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08-16-2024, 10:02 AM
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They are waiting for Trump to become president, then they will crash it harder than you ever saw before
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08-16-2024, 10:48 AM
#46
How do we really know if it is actually up or down? Its just some chart someone posts. Who is that person posting it? Someone from the white house or is it legit?
Can you actually trust what they are telling us?
Can you actually trust what they are telling us?
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08-16-2024, 11:06 AM
#47
Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
Not sure if srs. Just Google the current prices, look at your own investment accounts, look at the FOMC data (PCE, CPI, PPI).
How do we really know if it is actually up or down? Its just some chart someone posts. Who is that person posting it? Someone from the white house or is it legit?
Can you actually trust what they are telling us?
Can you actually trust what they are telling us?
08-16-2024, 11:39 AM
#48
Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
How do we really know if it is actually up or down? Its just some chart someone posts. Who is that person posting it? Someone from the white house or is it legit?
Can you actually trust what they are telling us?
Can you actually trust what they are telling us?
Tell us you've never invested without telling us you've never invested.
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