08-22-2024, 07:39 AM
#31
Originally Posted By Holyfenix⏩
beginner lifter lanklet
Was on 3 days on 1 day off 2 days on then 1 day off.
Tuesday - Thursday PPL
Friday off.
Saturday Arms and shoulders
Sunday exercises specific to building swing speed. Picked up 10 mph on my ball speed for golf in 6 months that way. Before next spring I want to add 10 more. If a midget like Rory Mcilroy can do it a 6’1” lanklet like me should have no problem.
Last 4 months I’ve experimented with 1 on 1 off and just don’t see as good results. So going back to my old way.
Just lol at some no avi red telling people how often to work out.
Tuesday - Thursday PPL
Friday off.
Saturday Arms and shoulders
Sunday exercises specific to building swing speed. Picked up 10 mph on my ball speed for golf in 6 months that way. Before next spring I want to add 10 more. If a midget like Rory Mcilroy can do it a 6’1” lanklet like me should have no problem.
Last 4 months I’ve experimented with 1 on 1 off and just don’t see as good results. So going back to my old way.
Just lol at some no avi red telling people how often to work out.
hit ur noobie gainz potential first then we can start talkin
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08-22-2024, 07:46 AM
#32
Originally Posted By ZergHydralisk⏩
You must be a manlet. Only little guys have egos too big for their little bodies to cash.
beginner lifter lanklet
hit ur noobie gainz potential first then we can start talkin
hit ur noobie gainz potential first then we can start talkin
Get your test levels right then we can start talkin.
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08-22-2024, 08:21 AM
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How can you tell Cortisol high?
I do get irritable and quick to anger if I workout too much for sure
I do get irritable and quick to anger if I workout too much for sure
08-22-2024, 08:44 AM
#34
Originally Posted By ZergHydralisk⏩
Cortisol levels drop after training and have a daily rhythm. I think what you might have been suffering would have been a strained CNS, something that can take a good day (or days) to recover, depending on the training.
I did 2 days in a row.
Cortisol is thru da fooken roof
Sure u can push thru. I've gone 30+ days multiple times with no rest days. But should you? Is it healthy? Good for gains?
Nope. All ur doin is fukn ur body up with chitty workouts. Peak retardation srs.
The most you should do is one day on/one day off. Ideally 2 days off in between.
Sure u can push thru. I've gone 30+ days multiple times with no rest days. But should you? Is it healthy? Good for gains?
Nope. All ur doin is fukn ur body up with chitty workouts. Peak retardation srs.
The most you should do is one day on/one day off. Ideally 2 days off in between.
That said, your CNS will adapt over time as well. There certainly is an upper limit and constantly being dog tired from a drained CNS is not optimal, but never working more than 2 days in a row is pretty limiting. I think you can, and should, push it now and again. Get rest when you feel too dogged, which over time will build up to beyond 2 days of back to back lifting.
Age, diet, sleep, how you train, all that will factor in of course. I'm older, moderately trained, decent diet, good sleep. I can put in more than two days of training before I get worn down. Sometimes, even doing 2/day training, right now my weekly limit is probably 6-9 hours of overall training. If I push closer to 9, if/when time even allows for that, that's pretty much it – I will be fried pretty badly by the end of the week (and need a good 2 days of recovery).
If it really just came down to cortisol, there are many easy ways to block that. Good luck with a 20-rep set of squats with low/no cortisol though. Like most other hormones, it's a balance. You want some, even 'bad' hormones like estrogen (which is a sex hormone), just too much or a wrong balance is when problems occur.
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08-22-2024, 08:47 AM
#35
Originally Posted By Holyfenix⏩
I tried topgolf a while ago and was able to hit the ball all the way to the fence the first time I tried.
You must be a manlet. Only little guys have egos too big for their little bodies to cash.
Get your test levels right then we can start talkin.
Get your test levels right then we can start talkin.
Google says the fence is 250 yards and that the balls are designed to not fly as far.
lol @ how much I golfmogg you
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08-22-2024, 09:08 AM
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Gotta keep going every day to get my gym crush's attention cause she goes every day crew
08-22-2024, 09:10 AM
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I'm doing upper/lower/off/upper/off/lower/off
Sometimes skip the second lower body day. I'm liking it.
Sometimes skip the second lower body day. I'm liking it.
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08-22-2024, 09:46 AM
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I do not hydrate and eat enough and end up taking longer before I can work out again because of it.
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08-22-2024, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
great stuff man, true dedication
Cortisol levels drop after training and have a daily rhythm. I think what you might have been suffering would have been a strained CNS, something that can take a good day (or days) to recover, depending on the training.
That said, your CNS will adapt over time as well. There certainly is an upper limit and constantly being dog tired from a drained CNS is not optimal, but never working more than 2 days in a row is pretty limiting. I think you can, and should, push it now and again. Get rest when you feel too dogged, which over time will build up to beyond 2 days of back to back lifting.
Age, diet, sleep, how you train, all that will factor in of course. I'm older, moderately trained, decent diet, good sleep. I can put in more than two days of training before I get worn down. Sometimes, even doing 2/day training, right now my weekly limit is probably 6-9 hours of overall training. If I push closer to 9, if/when time even allows for that, that's pretty much it – I will be fried pretty badly by the end of the week (and need a good 2 days of recovery).
If it really just came down to cortisol, there are many easy ways to block that. Good luck with a 20-rep set of squats with low/no cortisol though. Like most other hormones, it's a balance. You want some, even 'bad' hormones like estrogen (which is a sex hormone), just too much or a wrong balance is when problems occur.
That said, your CNS will adapt over time as well. There certainly is an upper limit and constantly being dog tired from a drained CNS is not optimal, but never working more than 2 days in a row is pretty limiting. I think you can, and should, push it now and again. Get rest when you feel too dogged, which over time will build up to beyond 2 days of back to back lifting.
Age, diet, sleep, how you train, all that will factor in of course. I'm older, moderately trained, decent diet, good sleep. I can put in more than two days of training before I get worn down. Sometimes, even doing 2/day training, right now my weekly limit is probably 6-9 hours of overall training. If I push closer to 9, if/when time even allows for that, that's pretty much it – I will be fried pretty badly by the end of the week (and need a good 2 days of recovery).
If it really just came down to cortisol, there are many easy ways to block that. Good luck with a 20-rep set of squats with low/no cortisol though. Like most other hormones, it's a balance. You want some, even 'bad' hormones like estrogen (which is a sex hormone), just too much or a wrong balance is when problems occur.
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08-22-2024, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
hahahah there is this cute girl at my gym that i always buy protein cookies from when shes there
Gotta keep going every day to get my gym crush's attention cause she goes every day crew
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08-22-2024, 09:59 AM
#41
Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
Lol hit the gym lilbro. we all know you were on the top floor swinging out of your shoes and one ball made it that far, I hit my 4 iron to the fence. If you can't hit it over the fence from the bottom floor you aren't stronk.
I tried topgolf a while ago and was able to hit the ball all the way to the fence the first time I tried.
Google says the fence is 250 yards and that the balls are designed to not fly as far.
lol @ how much I golfmogg you
Google says the fence is 250 yards and that the balls are designed to not fly as far.
lol @ how much I golfmogg you
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08-22-2024, 10:20 AM
#42
Originally Posted By ZergHydralisk⏩
That's why you are red.
nah i never use the smith
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08-22-2024, 10:30 AM
#43
Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
launching a golf ball out of your ass like an anal bead doesn't count as hitting the ball.
I tried topgolf a while ago and was able to hit the ball all the way to the fence the first time I tried.
Google says the fence is 250 yards and that the balls are designed to not fly as far.
lol @ how much I golfmogg you
Google says the fence is 250 yards and that the balls are designed to not fly as far.
lol @ how much I golfmogg you
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08-22-2024, 10:49 AM
#44
Originally Posted By dmaaack⏩
i dont, i just check the symptoms
How can you tell Cortisol high?
I do get irritable and quick to anger if I workout too much for sure
I do get irritable and quick to anger if I workout too much for sure
but yea that's pretty much my symptoms too
just pissed off and annoyed at everything and everything
I believe "roid rage" isn't from roids themselves. But rather they are from an increased amount of exercise leading to high cortisol. I used to get the same rage as a lifetime natty.
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08-22-2024, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
lol this is one of the reasons i started overtraining in the first place
Gotta keep going every day to get my gym crush's attention cause she goes every day crew
trust me ur better off lowering ur cortisol and being at ur best instead of having dark circles with resting bitch face before seeing her srs
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08-22-2024, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By ZergHydralisk⏩
It's pretty much universally accepted 'roid rage' is due to the excess testosterone levels associated with PEDs.
i dont, i just check the symptoms
but yea that's pretty much my symptoms too
just pissed off and annoyed at everything and everything
I believe "roid rage" isn't from roids themselves. But rather they are from an increased amount of exercise leading to high cortisol. I used to get the same rage as a lifetime natty.
but yea that's pretty much my symptoms too
just pissed off and annoyed at everything and everything
I believe "roid rage" isn't from roids themselves. But rather they are from an increased amount of exercise leading to high cortisol. I used to get the same rage as a lifetime natty.
Cortisol is barely linked to anger and only in that, the stressful situations that can raise cortisol often can make someone angry. Working out, fasting, taking a cold shower, all that also raises cortisol but since it's not some mentally stressful situation – they aren't going to make anyone angry. If anything, working out in the absence of having x4-10 normal levels of testosterone due to PEDs is likely to make someone calmer than angrier.
Excess cortisol is a thing, especially in the modern life where people are constantly under micro-stressors and are not relaxing, getting good sleep, etc… but you are putting way more on it than you should.
If you were burnt out from lifting, getting pissy and felt angrier, okay. How was your sleep? How was your home and work life? I'd look at a lot of other places before landing on cortisol as the cause of all your problems.
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08-22-2024, 11:07 AM
#47
Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
chill out with the know-it-all shiet
It's pretty much universally accepted 'roid rage' is due to the excess testosterone levels associated with PEDs.
Cortisol is barely linked to anger and only in that, the stressful situations that can raise cortisol often can make someone angry. Working out, fasting, taking a cold shower, all that also raises cortisol but since it's not some mentally stressful situation – they aren't going to make anyone angry. If anything, working out in the absence of having x4-10 normal levels of testosterone due to PEDs is likely to make someone calmer than angrier.
Excess cortisol is a thing, especially in the modern life where people are constantly under micro-stressors and are not relaxing, getting good sleep, etc… but you are putting way more on it than you should.
If you were burnt out from lifting, getting pissy and felt angrier, okay. How was your sleep? How was your home and work life? I'd look at a lot of other places before landing on cortisol as the cause of all your problems.
Cortisol is barely linked to anger and only in that, the stressful situations that can raise cortisol often can make someone angry. Working out, fasting, taking a cold shower, all that also raises cortisol but since it's not some mentally stressful situation – they aren't going to make anyone angry. If anything, working out in the absence of having x4-10 normal levels of testosterone due to PEDs is likely to make someone calmer than angrier.
Excess cortisol is a thing, especially in the modern life where people are constantly under micro-stressors and are not relaxing, getting good sleep, etc… but you are putting way more on it than you should.
If you were burnt out from lifting, getting pissy and felt angrier, okay. How was your sleep? How was your home and work life? I'd look at a lot of other places before landing on cortisol as the cause of all your problems.
yea no shiet there's other factors cool story bro
sounds like u can benefit from lowering ur cortisol srs
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08-22-2024, 11:27 AM
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I have a 5 day split but it usually takes 8-9 days to get through it instead of 7
Upper/Lower/Rest/Upper/(Usually another Rest)/Lower/Rest/Upper/Rest
The older you are and/or the heavier you’re lifting the more rest days you need
Upper/Lower/Rest/Upper/(Usually another Rest)/Lower/Rest/Upper/Rest
The older you are and/or the heavier you’re lifting the more rest days you need
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08-22-2024, 11:36 AM
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I actually completely agree with you, OP. I'm always good for 2 days in a row, but everything goes to chit if I do 3: power and explosiveness take a massive dip, sleep sucks, libido drops, strength goes down, and I feel like an apathetic kunt.
I train very hard tho. I'm sure if I did lighter, shorter workouts it'd be a different story.
I train very hard tho. I'm sure if I did lighter, shorter workouts it'd be a different story.
08-22-2024, 11:45 AM
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I do 3 gym days in a row, then 1 rest day. The first 2 days are usually no more than 3 workouts (4 sets 10-15 reps with not too heavy weights). The 3rd day is rougher since I do shoulders + legs in one day so it's 6 workouts (4 sets 10-15 reps with not too heavy weights). Usually I'm out of the gym within 20-25 minutes, except day 3 it can take up to 40.
Most would say I don't take the gym seriously enough, but it works for me. Perhaps 1 day on 1 day off would be better if my workouts were more intense. But I figure what I'm doing is overall better for my joints.
Most would say I don't take the gym seriously enough, but it works for me. Perhaps 1 day on 1 day off would be better if my workouts were more intense. But I figure what I'm doing is overall better for my joints.
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08-22-2024, 11:46 AM
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current split:
Chest
Back
Shoulders
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08-22-2024, 11:47 AM
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Lpp
No gap between legs and push because who gives a fuk?
No gap between legs and push because who gives a fuk?
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08-22-2024, 07:15 PM
#53
Originally Posted By Strawng⏩
yea dis is basically me I will still do two in a row sometimes if my condition is fine
I actually completely agree with you, OP. I'm always good for 2 days in a row, but everything goes to chit if I do 3: power and explosiveness take a massive dip, sleep sucks, libido drops, strength goes down, and I feel like an apathetic kunt.
I train very hard tho. I'm sure if I did lighter, shorter workouts it'd be a different story.
I train very hard tho. I'm sure if I did lighter, shorter workouts it'd be a different story.
3 in a row is def a no no
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08-22-2024, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By ZergHydralisk⏩
Sorry some of us actually lift *******. Negged for promoting laziness
not a good idea
ur cortisol is elevated and u need to release it with exercise
moderation is key
1-3 days/wk
ur cortisol is elevated and u need to release it with exercise
moderation is key
1-3 days/wk
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08-22-2024, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbaby⏩
if u actually lifted, u would know what i'm talking about
Sorry some of us actually lift *******. Negged for promoting laziness
u need to raise the intensity in the gym and report back and apologize srs
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08-22-2024, 08:06 PM
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Stay active 7 days per week crew….doesn't mean I go to the gym everyday and lift heavy…probably 4 days a week in the gym and anything else just to stay active. Rucksacking, lifting, HIIT cardio, etc…stay lean all year round. Keep my macros in check and typically do 60% carbs, 30 protein, and 10 fats…works great for me.
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08-22-2024, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
this. i'm older and now incorporate rest days/stretching/mobility and more running. doesn't make sense to train so hard unless you're competing tbh.
Stay active 7 days per week crew….doesn't mean I go to the gym everyday and lift heavy…probably 4 days a week in the gym and anything else just to stay active. Rucksacking, lifting, HIIT cardio, etc…stay lean all year round. Keep my macros in check and typically do 60% carbs, 30 protein, and 10 fats…works great for me.
a decade ago i'll blast the gym 5/6 days a week for fun. not anymore.
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08-22-2024, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By forthenoodz⏩
Yup…especially considering how your recovery time literally doubles once you get to 40….yeah..I don't personally have a "rest day" but it's not like you need much recovery after a long rucksacking walk or quick cardio session lol…I do take days off after lifting though.
this. i'm older and now incorporate rest days/stretching/mobility and more running. doesn't make sense to train so hard unless you're competing tbh.
a decade ago i'll blast the gym 5/6 days a week for fun. not anymore.
a decade ago i'll blast the gym 5/6 days a week for fun. not anymore.
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08-22-2024, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
active rest days are the GOAT
Yup…especially considering how your recovery time literally doubles once you get to 40….yeah..I don't personally have a "rest day" but it's not like you need much recovery after a long rucksacking walk or quick cardio session lol…I do take days off after lifting though.
i walk on a trail for 1-2 hours sometimes on rest days just breathing in all the fresh oxygen
but yea those don't count as a "workout day"
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08-22-2024, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By ZergHydralisk⏩
They sure don't…I only consider gym/lifting days as true "workout days"…I just really fancy being active on the days I'm not lifting….something as simple as a long walk or even some burpees at home lol…im not really a bodybuilder..I just like being healthy and staying lean all year…which is a motherfuker at my age lol…
active rest days are the GOAT
i walk on a trail for 1-2 hours sometimes on rest days just breathing in all the fresh oxygen
but yea those don't count as a "workout day"
i walk on a trail for 1-2 hours sometimes on rest days just breathing in all the fresh oxygen
but yea those don't count as a "workout day"
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