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01-23-2020, 09:14 AM
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I like that we're going into this game as underdogs.

So far I don't think I've seen many people pick the 49ers. We've done a pretty good job showing up when we're the underdogs. Hopefully it happens again and we get #6 on 2/2/2(0) cuz 2+2+2+0 = 6.
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01-23-2020, 09:24 AM
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Chit so even math has our back!
Did you see this craziness?

Sure hope the trend continues

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01-23-2020, 09:25 AM
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Did you see this craziness?

Sure hope the trend continues

Hot damn! We've got math and history on our side!! KC doesn't have a chance.
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01-23-2020, 09:33 AM
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The talking heads are already unbearable. “What’s harder to prepare for: Chiefs speed or 49ers physicality”

As if the 49ers aren’t fast as hell too.
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01-23-2020, 09:43 AM
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KC definitely has us in the speed department IMO but yeah…49ers have plenty of speed of their own, just not at the WR position.

Mahomes is super mobile and he'll be an issue if we don't find a way to get to him AND bring his ass down or force off target throws but he's Kyler Murray or even Russell Wilson with his 4.8 40 time.

Our RBs are faster than theirs and Kittle is faster than Kelce so people definitely underestimating our speed just cuz we don't have a Tyreek Hill or Hardman.
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01-23-2020, 09:48 AM
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As if the 49ers aren’t fast as hell too.
The speed of your defense was evident against my team (Vikings) and vs the Packers. It is second to none IMO.

Also, E. Sanders has proven speed throughout his career and Samuel looks pretty fast to me as an unbiased viewer.

That said, it would be wise to not match Sherman up on Tyreek if at all possible………
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01-23-2020, 10:14 AM
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The speed of your defense was evident against my team (Vikings) and vs the Packers. It is second to none IMO.

Also, E. Sanders has proven speed throughout his career and Samuel looks pretty fast to me as an unbiased viewer.

That said, it would be wise to not match Sherman up on Tyreek if at all possible ………
It's all about how Sherman plays him. If he's trying to bump him at the line well he better be sure to get him WAY off his route. If he plays off he can still make plays

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01-23-2020, 10:26 AM
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It's all about how Sherman plays him. If he's trying to bump him at the line well he better be sure to get him WAY off his route. If he plays off he can still make plays

https://twitter.com/i/status/1043920325862248448
Brah, Sherman was beat like a dog there–underthrown ball by MahGOATs. You can't depend on that happening again…………
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01-23-2020, 10:30 AM
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Brah, Sherman was beat like a dog there–underthrown ball by MahGOATs. You can't depend on that happening again…………
Meh, recovery is part of the game. No question straight up speed Sherman is getting killed vs Hill. But this was also week 3 the season after he injured his achilles. He's healthier now. Obviously as a 49ers fan I don't want to see any deep shots to Hill just saying Sherman is a smart dude, if he diagnoses the go route he can make the play on it.
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01-23-2020, 10:41 AM
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Meh, recovery is part of the game. No question straight up speed Sherman is getting killed vs Hill. But this was also week 3 the season after he injured his achilles. He's healthier now. Obviously as a 49ers fan I don't want to see any deep shots to Hill just saying Sherman is a smart dude, if he diagnoses the go route he can make the play on it.
That recovery was only enabled by a badly underthrown pass though, brah. Should have been hit in stride near the back of the endzone. I get what you are saying in that Sherm still had to "make the play" there, but I don't see Mahomes missing that throw again in the SB……
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01-23-2020, 10:44 AM
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That recovery was only enabled by a badly underthrown pass though, brah. Should have been hit in stride near the back of the endzone. I get what you are saying in that Sherm still had to "make the play" there, but I don't see Mahomes missing that throw again in the SB……
I hope he never has time to make that throw in the SB
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01-23-2020, 12:54 PM
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Feels weird not paying any attention to the draft at this point of the year. Senior Bowl is Saturday and I have barely scratched the surface on who is even playing. I keep hearing that this years WR draft class is the best its been in 20 years. I thought last years WR class was really good too.

I think we are in position to draft BPA bc I don't think we have any glaring needs. We'll know more once free agency is near. Hope we find a way to keep Armstead.
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01-23-2020, 01:08 PM
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It's all about how Sherman plays him. If he's trying to bump him at the line well he better be sure to get him WAY off his route. If he plays off he can still make plays

https://twitter.com/i/status/1043920325862248448
Come on man, that was PI and the ball was underthrown..Sherm was abused.
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01-23-2020, 03:22 PM
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Limiting big plays is the specialty of our defense. Obviously that threat of big plays against the Chiefs should be even more paid attention to, so I'm sure we'll be ready. I'd rather they give up chunks than TDs and make them earn em by driving the field on us and in the redzone. I think the Chiefs are going to focus early on lots of misdirection and quick hitting passes to limit our rush so if we can stop those plays and force them into 3rd and long and drop back situations I like our chances. The broken plays are the biggest threats for big deep passes but I hope to see that the pass rush can collapse on Mahomes. I really think we have the right defense and coaches to prepare for and put a halt to their offense. I was reading they had a rough day passing against the Chargers twice who had a high ranked pass D and run similar scheme to us so hopefully that bodes well for us.

Grabbing as big of an early lead as possible would be nice but we'll see how it plays out. I trust this team to figure it out whatever happens.

I don't see why this game would play out much different than our last two. The reality of the situation is it's up to KC to stop our run game and if they can't it will be really hard for them to win no matter what. If they do or they stack the box then we can beat them with the passing game. KC we don't have to plan for much of a run game and even when they do run I trust our D to play it well.
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01-23-2020, 05:07 PM
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Feels weird not paying any attention to the draft at this point of the year. Senior Bowl is Saturday and I have barely scratched the surface on who is even playing. I keep hearing that this years WR draft class is the best its been in 20 years. I thought last years WR class was really good too.

I think we are in position to draft BPA bc I don't think we have any glaring needs. We'll know more once free agency is near. Hope we find a way to keep Armstead.
Yeah I’ve done very little draft stuff this year. Been busy with life stuff but also since we’ve been winning I don’t want to fall in love with prospects we won’t get a chance to draft. WR draft is definitely legit. Some quality guys for sure.

I’d be shocked if we don’t trade out of 32(speaking it into existence) to recoup the picks we traded away for Dee and Sanders.
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01-23-2020, 05:10 PM
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Come on man, that was PI and the ball was underthrown..Sherm was abused.
Result of the play was an incomplete pass lol. Not sure why we want to say he was abused on the play when the end result was a win for the defense.

Do I want to see Sherman or any of our guys defending gos vs Hill or their speed guys? Hell no. The point was speed doesn’t always lead to instant wins. Hopefully our guys play smart but the pass rush doesn’t allow them to even attempt those routes.
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01-24-2020, 12:09 AM
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Pretty good thread I found on how the Niners Defense can matchup against KC:
https://twitter.com/Scott_Geelan/sta...66933889490944

It's funny I was thinking yesterday about which defenses are similar to ours that have played KC, and I thought of the Chargers. I looked it up, and they had relative success against them in their past 3 meetings. We have better personnel, which will be the difference I think, especially with speed at LB's and the pass rush. I think our defense will have success in the SB.

As for our offense, I think the niners are going to be able to put up points. I don't see KC stopping the run, and if the run game is having success, then the pass game should follow suit.
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01-24-2020, 06:06 AM
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49ers and Jimmy G have a message for the QB's haters

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/vi...erbacks-haters
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01-24-2020, 06:40 AM
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49ers and Jimmy G have a message for the QB's haters

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/vi...erbacks-haters
Such a stupid non story.

It's not like Jimmy put up Kaepernick like numbers vs Chicago in 2016 where he was only 1 for 5 for 4 yards.

He threw 8 times, 1 think one was dropped and the other was a good play by the D to keep Deebo from catching it and it was for 77 yards.

GB simply couldn't stop the run so we ran it again and again and again. If KC can't stop our run we better fuking do the same sh*t again!

Plus there is this whole narrative that Kyle didn't have faith in Jimmy because he threw that interception against the Vikings. BS. Maybe non 49er fans see the INT numbers and think Jimmy sucks but we've all seen how well Jimmy responds after turning the ball over. The fact is just like Green Bay the Vikings couldn't stop the run.

Here is what happened after that pick.

We take a knee to go into halftime.

2nd half

1st drive
1st 10 - Mostert run for 5
2nd 5 - Incomplete pass to Deebo
3rd and 5 - 21 yard completion to Bourne
4 straight runs to get us to 3rd and 2 - Jimmy G pass incomplete

Next drive only 3rd down we saw was 3rd and 2…all runs Vikings couldn't stop

Next drive ends up being 3 and out after Coleman is stopped on 3rd and 1 but Vikings muff the punt
1st and 10 - Mostert 2 yard run
2nd and 8 - 4 yard completion to Kittle
3rd and 4 - 1 yard completion to Kittle

Next drive
1st and 10 - Coleman 2 yard run
2nd and 8 - Coleman 4 yard run
3rd and 4 - Incomplete to Bourne(drop)

Next drive
Only 3rd down we saw was 3rd and 6 and we ran with Breida with a 27 to 10 lead ensuring if we punt it will be with under 4 minutes to play instead of nearly 6 minutes.


Basically after the pick the only time we saw a 3rd down with 3 yards or more to go was 4 times. We ran just once on those downs and it was on the last one.
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01-24-2020, 06:59 AM
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Such a stupid non story.

It's not like Jimmy put up Kaepernick like numbers vs Chicago in 2016 where he was only 1 for 5 for 4 yards.

He threw 8 times, 1 think one was dropped and the other was a good play by the D to keep Deebo from catching it and it was for 77 yards.

GB simply couldn't stop the run so we ran it again and again and again. If KC can't stop our run we better fuking do the same sh*t again!

Plus there is this whole narrative that Kyle didn't have faith in Jimmy because he threw that interception against the Vikings. BS. Maybe non 49er fans see the INT numbers and think Jimmy sucks but we've all seen how well Jimmy responds after turning the ball over. The fact is just like Green Bay the Vikings couldn't stop the run.

Here is what happened after that pick.

We take a knee to go into halftime.

2nd half

1st drive
1st 10 - Mostert run for 5
2nd 5 - Incomplete pass to Deebo
3rd and 5 - 21 yard completion to Bourne
4 straight runs to get us to 3rd and 2 - Jimmy G pass incomplete

Next drive only 3rd down we saw was 3rd and 2…all runs Vikings couldn't stop

Next drive ends up being 3 and out after Coleman is stopped on 3rd and 1 but Vikings muff the punt
1st and 10 - Mostert 2 yard run
2nd and 8 - 4 yard completion to Kittle
3rd and 4 - 1 yard completion to Kittle

Next drive
1st and 10 - Coleman 2 yard run
2nd and 8 - Coleman 4 yard run
3rd and 4 - Incomplete to Bourne(drop)

Next drive
Only 3rd down we saw was 3rd and 6 and we ran with Breida with a 27 to 10 lead ensuring if we punt it will be with under 4 minutes to play instead of nearly 6 minutes.


Basically after the pick the only time we saw a 3rd down with 3 yards or more to go was 4 times. We ran just once on those downs and it was on the last one.
Yeah well i think nfl purists/snobs want a Fouts, Marino, Breese like performance every week when all the 49ers want are wins!
So because Kyle changed up the plan of attack, they want to whine about …HOW… THEY GET THE WIN.
you are correct, it is really stupid.
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01-25-2020, 04:13 PM
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Yeah well i think nfl purists/snobs want a Fouts, Marino, Breese like performance every week when all the 49ers want are wins!
So because Kyle changed up the plan of attack, they want to whine about …HOW… THEY GET THE WIN.
you are correct, it is really stupid.
Jimmy G can throw zero passes for all I care as long as we get the win. I do think he will have to throw though. The Chiefs will try to do everything they can to shut down the run and make him throw. But he did it against the Saints and I think he does it again if needed

But yeah, the narrative is absolutely retarded.
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01-25-2020, 05:18 PM
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Jimmy G can throw zero passes for all I care as long as we get the win. I do think he will have to throw though. The Chiefs will try to do everything they can to shut down the run and make him throw. But he did it against the Saints and I think he does it again if needed

But yeah, the narrative is absolutely retarded.
Yup, just want a win. Whether it’s with 50 pass attempts or 0…just win.
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01-26-2020, 11:46 AM
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Looks like the SB thread turned into complete chit that has nothing to do with the game.

Wish the game was tonight but glad our guys have the extra week to rest and prep. I think that really helps our DL which hopefully will help us slow down Mahomes and their crazy ass offense enough to get the W.

This season has been so friggin weird that I’m having a super hard time analyzing this game. We have only played two offenses comparable in the big play ability who match what KC brings and both of them were on the road where we had key guys missing - Ravens and Saints.

Ravens game certainly shows our D can stop a dominant offense but we know KC and Baltimore offenses are polar opposites. Plus we had the Rain as an X factor in that game.

Saints probably match the Chiefs closest in terms of top QB, great overall talent on offense, solid OL and great playcalling and we got absolutely killed on D in that game but we also had key injuries on D and Saints had extra time to prepare for us.

I hope history is on our side and defense wins out. The good news for us was the Saints game showed that even when our D struggles big time our offense can pick up the pace.

Hopefully when the clock runs out in the 4th quarter we have more points than KC. Whether it’s 30 points, 10 or 1…as long as we have more that’s all that matters.

This team has had such an amazing season I really hope they can end the season with a win. KC will be in the hunt for a while. They can get theirs another time.
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01-27-2020, 06:01 PM
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So has anyone heard and update on 26, Coleman and his shoulder?
I watched that play and he jammed it into the grass and was out for the game.
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So has anyone heard and update on 26, Coleman and his shoulder?
I watched that play and he jammed it into the grass and was out for the game.
Assume you’ve seen it went out of socket? Said it was out for 25 minutes and the most intense pain imaginable…couldn’t walk. He has a shot at playing. KS said think of it as Mel in leathal weapon
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Assume you’ve seen it went out of socket? Said it was out for 25 minutes and the most intense pain imaginable…couldn’t walk. He has a shot at playing. KS said think of it as Mel in leathal weapon
No I hadn't heard that and thanks for the update. I think that i had a hip do that sprinting as a kid and it took forever to heal.

Hopefully there is some magical cure to help him play, or we can use Mostert
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01-28-2020, 03:24 AM
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It's all about how Sherman plays him. If he's trying to bump him at the line well he better be sure to get him WAY off his route. If he plays off he can still make plays

https://twitter.com/i/status/1043920325862248448
Did you just post a highlight of your hero committing PI as proof of “play making?”


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Come on man, that was PI and the ball was underthrown..Sherm was abused.
You’re talking to a casual.
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01-28-2020, 05:32 AM
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No I hadn't heard that and thanks for the update. I think that i had a hip do that sprinting as a kid and it took forever to heal.

Hopefully there is some magical cure to help him play, or we can use Mostert
I'd be surprised if he doesn't play but you never know. I still believe in Breida if he has to get in there he just needs to hold onto the damn ball but that goes for everyone out there. Mostert had his share of fumble issues and he's worked on getting them in check.

Worst case scenario we activate Jeff Wilson on game day(another guy who had fumble issues lol) but he's also done great for us the games where he has been active including good work in goalline situations and the big time TD catch vs Arizona to get us the W.
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01-28-2020, 09:03 AM
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This is going to be a LONG week. Can't stop thinking about this game and all the many ways it can go.
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I'd be surprised if he doesn't play but you never know. I still believe in Breida if he has to get in there he just needs to hold onto the damn ball but that goes for everyone out there . Mostert had his share of fumble issues and he's worked on getting them in checkI still believe in Breida if he has to get in there he just needs to hold onto the damn ball but that goes for everyone out there. Mostert had his share of fumble issues and he's worked on getting them in check..

Worst case scenario we activate Jeff Wilson on game day(another guy who had fumble issues lol) but he's also done great for us the games where he has been active including good work in goalline situations and the big time TD catch vs Arizona to get us the W.
I said the same thing about Breida awhile back and you said you weren't worried about him!

But I agree, Breida hasn't looked the same the second half of the season. I'm hoping Coleman can be in there as the #2 guy at least, but I think you gotta run Mostert as the hot hand as the first option. I wouldn't mind seeing more of Wilson either if Coleman is out and Breida isn't getting anywhere. I think we have enough weapons on offense either way for this not to be an issue

The biggest thing is going to be getting to Mahomes on defense with 4 people. The defense has seen a mobile QB a few different times now so they should be prepared for it but Mahomes seems like a different beast right now. We need to go out and get stops early and get off to a strong start. I don't think we win if we have to come from behind

I wasn't able to make the game. I'm hoping there is a large enough 49er fan presence to make a difference, or at least keep it even with Chiefs fans
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