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02-02-2020, 05:05 PM
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Damn it Kyle… no time out
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02-02-2020, 05:21 PM
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All things considered we're tied at halftime and held them to 10 points. I really didn't like the fact we could be up a bit without a turnover and a pretty soft OPI call. That being said we gotta make some adjustments and keep that focus. Know that its gonna be a close game and a battle til the last whistle. I really want to see us continue to straight up run the ball and really force them to show they can stop it. If we're gonna pass get it down field not quick screen like passes to the sideline. On defense they gotta be ready for all the read option stuff KC is throwing out there. I honestly think KC might start to look more like their regular offense and less like the read option when they realize they have 10 points and are looking to adjust. That may actually bode well for us. Even though we held em to 10 points they moved the ball too easily it felt like. This is where adjustments come into play. I'm ok with throwing a blitz in here and there and and changing looks up on them. Everything said we knew it was gonna be like this, so did the team, what is great is we're battle tested. Go out and show it. Have faith in these boys to go and get it done. Go Niners!
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02-02-2020, 05:23 PM
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Well we got Jimmy Gs one wtf INT. At least the defense held them to a FG after

OPI on Kittle was very soft. Although clock management screwed us more than anything at the end of that

We should have been up at the half. Offense needs to come out and score
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02-02-2020, 06:10 PM
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02-02-2020, 07:20 PM
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just LOL at people saying to cut ties with Kyle and Jimmy. This team is gonna be in the mix for the next 10ish years
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02-02-2020, 07:26 PM
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Thats what the 49ers get for spreading the virus that is Colin Kaepernick. Andy Reid is so deserving of this it makes me happy for him.
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02-02-2020, 07:28 PM
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Thats what the 49ers get for spreading the virus that is Colin Kaepernick. Andy Reid is so deserving of this it makes me happy for him.
I guess you have nothing else going on for you in life huh?
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02-02-2020, 07:35 PM
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Crushing way to lose, giving up a lead and not capitalizing on scoring enough TDs. That being said I'm a bit unhappy with the refs, there was a lot of missed/bad calls that went against us and otherwise I felt the game was evenly matched. I really think the two plays that hurt us was the first INT and the bomb to Hill on 3rd and 15. Other than that each team had positive and negative plays and the rest of the game was swayed by the blown calls I feel like. Sounds pussy to say that and normally I don't complain about refs but I didn't see myself saying "damn we got helped out by that call there, nice I'll take it" once that game, but I saw a few questionable calls at key times. The Kittle OPI, the non call on the Chiefs offside, Jimmy got hit helmet to helmet on a 3rd down and also they didn't call delay of game on us (not sure why we didn't use a TO there). Those calls made big differences in what otherwise was a pretty even match.

Did we leave some plays out there? Ya for sure but so did the Chiefs, and each team had turnovers, in fact we had less until Jimmy threw a pick at the end. Do I wish we maybe stuck with the run on the last drive a little more, yeah, do I wish Jimmy hit Sanders deep on the last drive yea, do I wish we didn't give up 3rd and 15 to Hill yeah, do I wish Ford was able to grab the Mahomes fumble early on yeah, on the field plays were there to be made and it was a damn close game. Not a fun ending to the season.

That being said nobody expected us here this year, let alone any time soon. We have a bright future, some decisions to be made for sure and hopefully a solid draft but we're looking like a contender for a good bit here which is great to say after what this team has been through the last 25 years minus this one and three years with Harbaugh. I'm proud the way this team played this year and looking forward to what is in the cards for the team going forward. Great year all around minus 1 game really. Go Niners!
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02-02-2020, 07:44 PM
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I didn't expect the 49ers to do this well this season in the first place, so still proud of them. Sucks to lose the Super Bowl. But I think the team could even be better next year. I'm not 50, but I'm older than some of you and I've been able to watch the 49ers win Super Bowls. Hopefully it happens during my adult life.
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02-02-2020, 07:53 PM
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Don’t think I’ve seen a more obviously rigged Super Bowl. What a shame, that’s pro sports for ya.
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02-02-2020, 07:56 PM
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Thats what the 49ers get for spreading the virus that is Colin Kaepernick. Andy Reid is so deserving of this it makes me happy for him.
good god man you have issues
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02-02-2020, 08:15 PM
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I blame this on Kyle. We run the ball so well. Play action was none existent towards the end. The chiefs were playing hard in the middle of the field stopping the run. Go to the outside etc…
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02-02-2020, 08:23 PM
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I blame this on Kyle. We run the ball so well. Play action was none existent towards the end. The chiefs were playing hard in the middle of the field stopping the run. Go to the outside etc…
I know how it feels
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02-02-2020, 08:38 PM
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Yep… the game was theirs. The chiefs play a great game. The niners d played as well as they could. But at the end Kyle didn’t get the offense moving. I don’t blame jimmy but all goes on Kyle. As creative as he is he gave them nothing.
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02-03-2020, 12:09 AM
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Sad it came down to Bustapollo to win this game which everyone knew he couldn't do it.
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02-03-2020, 12:17 AM
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Bad news for you… 77 yards and 0 TDs will not be enough against Chiefs.
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02-03-2020, 05:50 AM
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I see this forum is going in it's usual post SB overreaction. Even more reason to stay away from that sh*t show now.

Obviously this loss hurts bad. Anytime you get to the dance and don't win it it's going to hurt. To have a 10 point lead midway through the 4th quarter and the team playing as well as it has this season you think you're going to close that one out.

Unfortunately not only were we playing a very dangerous team but we also had to play the refs in this one. I don't want to get into conspiracy theories or any BS like that but I will say that was one of the most one sided officiated games I've seen in my life following the sport on that stage. Maybe only the Seattle/Pittsburgh SB a while back was worse and I think it was primarily because there wasn't review available.

We still had opportunities to close the game out but it's awfully hard to do that against a good team and the refs completely nullifying our advantages. I'm not going to get into all of the calls or no calls I thought were BS but the one that made me lose my fuking mind and IMO turned the game for the Chiefs was the 3rd and 15 play to Hill. I couldn't believe they didn't call holding on their OL on that play.



That hold on Bosa was so fuking clear as day and right in front of the refs I don't know how that doesn't get called. We all know what happened on that play. They call that properly and it's 3rd and 25 with 7 minutes left on the clock. It doesn't mean 49ers automatically stop them but it sure improves their chances and it definitely takes off a 44 yard play for a first down.

Now all that aside…it was just a collapse by the whole team after that. Offense couldn't get it done. I see all the Jimmy hate and it is what it is. I get how it goes and I know how the sports misc is. Very what have you done for me lately. Jimmy didn't play great but the OL didn't play well. My biggest concern from the Chiefs D was Chris Jones and he absolutely killed us. I feel like he had at least 5 batted down passes or something like that. The loss is stings too much right now for me to rewatch the final moments but I'm pretty sure he batted down at least 3 passes on the last two drives we had killing a few would be very good plays.

Garoppolo wasn't good and he wasn't bad. He missed Sanders obviously so that will stick with him and the team since they had a chance for a TD there but those passes aren't easy ones to make and it's not like he threw a pick on the 1 yard line…

First pick I think he was looking to throw it out of bounds and got crushed by the DT and couldn't put his body into the throw. Hard to blame him for that one. He got batted around pretty good in there. Nice helmet to helmet hit(no call) but he still hung in there. The throws weren't made but if the OL can keep Jones down(hit the guy in the ribs so he can't get his hands up) who knows how those plays end up.

It's hard to say whether this team will be back just because it's so hard to keep it going year to year and we don't know who will be on the roster next season but I do think despite what happened this team has a good young nucleus and I expect growth from most of the guys here. It sucks that Staley couldn't get a ring as I'm not sure how much time he's got left and we've seen other SB losing teams collapse but I do think we'll be in the hunt.

I will likely be posting less than usual as we get closer to next season as (assuming all goes well) the wife and i are expecting our first in August but regardless of the outcome of this game I'm super proud of this team and what they were able to do this season.
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02-03-2020, 05:54 AM
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Still pathetic, not surprised.
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02-03-2020, 06:15 AM
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Yep… the game was theirs. The chiefs play a great game. The niners d played as well as they could. But at the end Kyle didn’t get the offense moving. I don’t blame jimmy but all goes on Kyle. As creative as he is he gave them nothing.
I dont know if kyle should get all the blame. Only thing i didnt like other than the end of half was the play call selection on 2nd and 5 in the 2nd to last drive up by 3. He called a throw when he should have called a run. We went 3 in out and the chiefs scored a td.

Jimmy played ok for the most part but didnt have a good 4th quarter like we have seen in the past. The Chiefs did and that was the difference.
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02-03-2020, 06:19 AM
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Kyle is in here getting the blame? JG played a slight tick above trash level.
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02-03-2020, 06:30 AM
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As a fan who didn't have a horse in the race: 1/3 blame to Kyle (WTF was he thinking at end of half?), 1/3 blame to JimmyG (at some point you have to be able to go off-script and go win the game after you get behind), and 1/3 blame to the SF Defense (a truly elite D has to make a stop at the end, the long TD to Williams is inexcusable).

As far as reffing goes, the only call I didn't like was the face-guarding call that went against SF in the EZ which setup a TD. He didn't turn around, but there was very minimal contact, if any. They are super inconsistent in flagging face-guarding. I've seen that exact play NOT get flagged on my team lots of times.
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02-03-2020, 07:11 AM
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Kyle is in here getting the blame? JG played a slight tick above trash level.
There is blame to go all around. Jimmy didn't play great but he definitely wasn't trash. Batted passes aren't on the QB. It was unfortunately a joint effort failure and bad timing…
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02-03-2020, 07:20 AM
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As a fan who didn't have a horse in the race: 1/3 blame to Kyle (WTF was he thinking at end of half?), 1/3 blame to JimmyG (at some point you have to be able to go off-script and go win the game after you get behind), and 1/3 blame to the SF Defense (a truly elite D has to make a stop at the end, the long TD to Williams is inexcusable).

As far as reffing goes, the only call I didn't like was the face-guarding call that went against SF in the EZ which setup a TD . He didn't turn around, but there was very minimal contact, if any. They are super inconsistent in flagging face-guarding. I've seen that exact play NOT get flagged on my team lots of times.
That one wasn't even the one that really got me. I agree it's super inconsistent but this was also after the 3rd and 15 play with clear as day holding of Bosa by Fisher right in front of the ref I referenced earlier. Given the impact of that play it was IMO the worst no call of the game by far.

I don't want to act like the 49ers lost this game because of the refs cuz they still had time to make plays to close it out and didn't but just off the top of my head on how one sided the reffing was in this game

No holding called on that 3rd and 15 play
No holding called a ton of other times, including Mahomes 3rd down
OPI on Kittle - super ticky tacky, if you're not going to throw flags in the SB then no fuking way should that have been a penalty
Faceguarding on Moore - as you said…they've let that go before so why we throwing it on the 49ers?
Ruling Hill's non catch a catch - Shanahan had to challenge
Helmet to helmet hit on Jimmy - no call
Another hit to the head on Jimmy - no call
No offsides called giving Jimmy a free play on 3rd and 14
Late hit on Jimmy(didn't see if it was legit cuz they didn't even show a replay)
No holding called on their DB on a 3rd down pass play
Mathieu throwing a shoulder into Kittle after he was already tackled out of bounds

Hell they didn't even call delay of game on 4th down which probably would've helped the 49ers. It was like their OL stopped on the play expecting the flag.


The loss stings enough and the team should've been able to overcome all that crap but the Chiefs are a great team but if they get to play by a different set of rules than the other team it's hard to beat them.
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That one wasn't even the one that really got me. I agree it's super inconsistent but this was also after the 3rd and 15 play with clear as day holding of Bosa by Fisher right in front of the ref I referenced earlier. Given the impact of that play it was IMO the worst no call of the game by far.

I don't want to act like the 49ers lost this game because of the refs cuz they still had time to make plays to close it out and didn't but just off the top of my head on how one sided the reffing was in this game

No holding called on that 3rd and 15 play
No holding called a ton of other times, including Mahomes 3rd down
OPI on Kittle - super ticky tacky, if you're not going to throw flags in the SB then no fuking way should that have been a penalty
Faceguarding on Moore - as you said…they've let that go before so why we throwing it on the 49ers?
Ruling Hill's non catch a catch - Shanahan had to challenge
Helmet to helmet hit on Jimmy - no call
Another hit to the head on Jimmy - no call
No offsides called giving Jimmy a free play on 3rd and 14
Late hit on Jimmy(didn't see if it was legit cuz they didn't even show a replay)
No holding called on their DB on a 3rd down pass play
Mathieu throwing a shoulder into Kittle after he was already tackled out of bounds

Hell they didn't even call delay of game on 4th down which probably would've helped the 49ers. It was like their OL stopped on the play expecting the flag.


The loss stings enough and the team should've been able to overcome all that crap but the Chiefs are a great team but if they get to play by a different set of rules than the other team it's hard to beat them.

Stop crying about refs old man. The better team won convincingly. Get over it.
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OPI on Kittle - super ticky tacky, if you're not going to throw flags in the SB then no fuking way should that have been a penalty
I would think the most maddening thing about that one for 9ers fans is Kittle totally did NOT have to push off there. He was behind the defense already and the throw was perfect.

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Helmet to helmet hit on Jimmy - no call
I had completely forgot about the one where the Honey Badger hit him. That was bad. Textbook flag IMO.


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Hell they didn't even call delay of game on 4th down which probably would've helped the 49ers. It was like their OL stopped on the play expecting the flag.
The delay of game certainly would have helped the 9ers. I was wondering if that was challenge-able or not? I assume no.
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02-03-2020, 07:45 AM
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Crying about the refs but when it mattered most, jimmy g couldn’t make an accurate throw on a wide open WR for a game ending TD.


I told y’all the 49ers were weak at QB all year long. I don’t think anyone thought the 49ers would win, even though they had 2:30 left on the clock. He was no threat at all.

The moment jimmy gets some pressure you can just feel a wild INT coming. There are QBs that play with pressure all game and jimmy just can’t do it.
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02-03-2020, 08:07 AM
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The talking heads are saying 1/3 Kyle ,1/3 the D late in the game(we have seen the D fade late in the 3rd and 4th quarter all season long) and of course 1/3 Jimmy.

I want to watch the game again because i missed some things but the offensive line letting Jimmy get nada late in the game was huge. Additionally, you never see a guy swat down 2-3 balls in a crucial part of the game.
I don't care about being criticized, but the penalty calls were strange, odd, or whatever else you want to call them.

Really disappointing but they surpassed expectations for 2019.

As an aside former GM Charlie Casserly said that we need a db and a safety for next year.
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Crying about the refs but when it mattered most, jimmy g couldn’t make an accurate throw on a wide open WR for a game ending TD.


I told y’all the 49ers were weak at QB all year long. I don’t think anyone thought the 49ers would win, even though they had 2:30 left on the clock. He was no threat at all.

The moment jimmy gets some pressure you can just feel a wild INT coming. There are QBs that play with pressure all game and jimmy just can’t do it.
It's easy to talk now but the numbers Jimmy put up in the 4th quarter over the course of the season spoke for themselves. Yes he missed Sanders but let's not act like that pass was a piece of cake. He threw a perfect pass down the field to Kittle which got wiped away due to the ridiculous OPI. He missed that one so it looks bigger considering the situation.

It's not like he missed a 10 yard pass to a wide open guy.

There are very few QBs who can play great with constant pressure coming at them - btw Matt Ryan isn't one of them.

And the guys who play well with pressure in their face all the time typically have offenses which account for their ability to make something out of nothing. That's not how this offense is designed.

Jimmy Garoppolo may never be an elite QB in this game but he's a decent starter who didn't play well but certainly wasn't the main reason for us losing the game. He'll continue to improve like most young starters.
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I would think the most maddening thing about that one for 9ers fans is Kittle totally did NOT have to push off there. He was behind the defense already and the throw was perfect.



I had completely forgot about the one where the Honey Badger hit him. That was bad. Textbook flag IMO.




The delay of game certainly would have helped the 9ers. I was wondering if that was challenge-able or not? I assume no.
Not challengable. Just like the offsides call wasn't challengable.

Once again I'm not saying refs were the only reason the 49ers lost but the game was officiated incredibly one sided and if you're going to play the "It's the Superbowl so don't expect flags" thing then don't flag Kittle or Moore.
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It's easy to talk now but the numbers Jimmy put up in the 4th quarter over the course of the season spoke for themselves. Yes he missed Sanders but let's not act like that pass was a piece of cake. He threw a perfect pass down the field to Kittle which got wiped away due to the ridiculous OPI. He missed that one so it looks bigger considering the situation.

It's not like he missed a 10 yard pass to a wide open guy.

There are very few QBs who can play great with constant pressure coming at them - btw Matt Ryan isn't one of them.

And the guys who play well with pressure in their face all the time typically have offenses which account for their ability to make something out of nothing. That's not how this offense is designed.

Jimmy Garoppolo may never be an elite QB in this game but he's a decent starter who didn't play well but certainly wasn't the main reason for us losing the game. He'll continue to improve like most young starters.
I’ve been saying it all year lmao.

And yes Ryan is one of them, sorry big guy.
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