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08-11-2021, 09:30 AM
#6391
Originally Posted By lntense⏩
When you start seeing wealthy people getting into chit like that, it’s time to run for the hills IMHO. If you’re looking to ride their waves, that’s a risky af game to play
That’s what I’m being sarcastic about. We all KNOW it’s overvalued. That’s not the play.
Was pointing out that despite the media constantly chirping about it being overvalued Pelosi casually makes a 500k share buy. And they don’t lose on big trades.
Was pointing out that despite the media constantly chirping about it being overvalued Pelosi casually makes a 500k share buy. And they don’t lose on big trades.
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08-11-2021, 09:37 AM
#6392
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Definitely not making my investment based on that. I’m already on the boat lol. Just pointing out that it was an interesting buy.
When you start seeing wealthy people getting into chit like that, it’s time to run for the hills IMHO. If you’re looking to ride their waves, that’s a risky af game to play
The data we get is so delayed/if even accurate, it doesn’t really matter anyway.
08-11-2021, 09:44 AM
#6393
Originally Posted By lntense⏩
Could be a good indicator if you're already in but yeah I wouldn't be making first moves based on that either
Definitely not making my investment based on that. I’m already on the boat lol. Just pointing out that it was an interesting buy.
The data we get is so delayed/if even accurate, it doesn’t really matter anyway.
The data we get is so delayed/if even accurate, it doesn’t really matter anyway.
Used the same reasoning before the recent crypto dump. When I started seeing confirmed 1%ers on this forum pumping actual chitcoins, that felt like a strong peak signal and it has played out that way (so far)
08-11-2021, 09:47 AM
#6394
Originally Posted By lntense⏩
I’m not saying he’s buffet, but he/funds he’s invested with tend to not lose on bets like that. On paper wouldn’t you say that’s pretty “risky” unless they have an edge. I guess they could buy to lend out but that’s the only thing I can think of.
Yeah it can be kicked down the road a while and understand it’s rigged.
Yeah it can be kicked down the road a while and understand it’s rigged.
What are chances they are still even holding they could have sold on top.
Read up on synthetic shares.
They could be hiding position in deep ITM puts etc.
Game is rigged and nothing will ever be done with it.
They have time on their side.
Retail will lose interest if you invested life savings into GME / AMC eventually you will need that money out.
That rich guy that needs to cover is not down to his last $5 needing to cover AMC. He will have rich other friends that can lend hand.
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08-11-2021, 10:01 AM
#6395
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Could be a good indicator if you're already in but yeah I wouldn't be making first moves based on that either
Used the same reasoning before the recent crypto dump. When I started seeing confirmed 1%ers on this forum pumping actual chitcoins, that felt like a strong peak signal and it has played out that way (so far)
Used the same reasoning before the recent crypto dump. When I started seeing confirmed 1%ers on this forum pumping actual chitcoins, that felt like a strong peak signal and it has played out that way (so far)
Oh lawd. Bitcoin and ethereum is the only way(if in it long term) lol. There was one of those pump and dump coins that a lot of miscers lost a lot on if I’m remembering right.
Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
That’s why I’m saying the data we get is delayed and likely inaccurate.
What are chances they are still even holding they could have sold on top.
Read up on synthetic shares.
They could be hiding position in deep ITM puts etc.
Game is rigged and nothing will ever be done with it.
They have time on their side.
Retail will lose interest if you invested life savings into GME / AMC eventually you will need that money out.
That rich guy that needs to cover is not down to his last $5 needing to cover AMC. He will have rich other friends that can lend hand.
Read up on synthetic shares.
They could be hiding position in deep ITM puts etc.
Game is rigged and nothing will ever be done with it.
They have time on their side.
Retail will lose interest if you invested life savings into GME / AMC eventually you will need that money out.
That rich guy that needs to cover is not down to his last $5 needing to cover AMC. He will have rich other friends that can lend hand.
Currently supposedly
Short Interest: 18.45%
Utilization: 94.42%
Shares On Loan: 105.38 million
No doubt. We will just have to see how long they keep it up for in this market. Spy at ath week after week, repo demand over 1 trillion. And it’s likely retail will lose interest but maybe not.
You don’t think anything will ever be done regarding pfof, naked/synthetics, and off exchange/dark pool trading?
I find it unlikely, given things like Yellen getting 7.2 million from Citadel for mostly zoom/Skype speeches. The corruption runs deep. Just sucks.
08-11-2021, 10:20 AM
#6396
Originally Posted By lntense⏩
I have no clue if they will manage to pass any regulation and sec actually does something.
Oh lawd. Bitcoin and ethereum is the only way(if in it long term) lol. There was one of those pump and dump coins that a lot of miscers lost a lot on if I’m remembering right.
That’s why I’m saying the data we get is delayed and likely inaccurate.
Currently supposedly
Short Interest: 17.96%
Utilization: 94.42%
Shares On Loan: 105.38 million
No doubt. We will just have to see how long they keep it up for in this market. Spy at ath week after week.
You don’t think anything will ever be done regarding pfof, naked/synthetics, and off exchange/dark pool trading?
That’s why I’m saying the data we get is delayed and likely inaccurate.
Currently supposedly
Short Interest: 17.96%
Utilization: 94.42%
Shares On Loan: 105.38 million
No doubt. We will just have to see how long they keep it up for in this market. Spy at ath week after week.
You don’t think anything will ever be done regarding pfof, naked/synthetics, and off exchange/dark pool trading?
TBH It feels like way too many big players would get burned.
Its a massive web that would touch all the 1%.
They have everyone in their pocket.
https://imgur.com/S6JRLdg
When I am bored at work and have time to kill at lunch I end checking whats going on here every few weeks. Every time its same shiit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/
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08-11-2021, 10:32 AM
#6397
Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I have no clue if they will manage to pass any regulation and sec actually does something.
TBH It feels like way too many big players would get burned.
Its a massive web that would touch all the 1%.
They have everyone in their pocket.
https://imgur.com/S6JRLdg
When I am bored at work and have time to kill at lunch I end checking whats going on here every few weeks. Every time its same shiit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/
TBH It feels like way too many big players would get burned.
Its a massive web that would touch all the 1%.
They have everyone in their pocket.
https://imgur.com/S6JRLdg
When I am bored at work and have time to kill at lunch I end checking whats going on here every few weeks. Every time its same shiit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/
I realize it was different circumstances but they thought the same in 08. But yeah got bailed out. Few took the fall. They literally are all intertwined.
I haven’t even been on superstonk, but I’ll check that out when I can.
08-11-2021, 10:38 AM
#6398
Wondering if that was the top for COIN this week….
Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
You and I never really swap plays but somehow we're generally making the same moves. Nice work m8, FUBO printinggggg
Just trimmed up my winning UPST and FUBO positions. Also sold my DMTK and FVRR losers. Bought a little more OKTA and TWLO as well.
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08-11-2021, 10:45 AM
#6399
Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Its a massive web that would touch all the 1%.
They have everyone in their pocket.
https://imgur.com/S6JRLdg
Yes. It’s mind numbing. And then there’s Virtu.
Its a massive web that would touch all the 1%.
They have everyone in their pocket.
https://imgur.com/S6JRLdg
08-11-2021, 10:48 AM
#6400
Rolls Royce is about to blast off to fill the gap to $3.2
08-11-2021, 11:01 AM
#6401
Rolls Royce doesn’t show earnings on rh nor can I even find it on finviz nothxjeff
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08-11-2021, 11:02 AM
#6402
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
You and I never really swap plays but somehow we're generally making the same moves. Nice work m8, FUBO printinggggg
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You and I never really swap plays but somehow we're generally making the same moves. Nice work m8, FUBO printinggggg
See title.
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08-11-2021, 11:59 AM
#6403
Damn UPST holders really winning rn
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08-11-2021, 12:12 PM
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pltr earnings today
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08-11-2021, 12:56 PM
#6405
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
This just blows my mind, typical political BS.
Imagine going from touted energy independence to begging OPEC for more output within a year or two
Canada & USA could be completely energy independent yet Biden administration would rather boot lick OPEC.
Like wut
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08-11-2021, 01:09 PM
#6406
Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
Off by about 15 hours bub
pltr earnings today
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08-11-2021, 01:16 PM
#6407
Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
Legit doesn't make any sense
This just blows my mind, typical political BS.
Canada & USA could be completely energy independent yet Biden administration would rather boot lick OPEC.
Like wut
Canada & USA could be completely energy independent yet Biden administration would rather boot lick OPEC.
Like wut
I don't think the shift to "greener" tech will improve anything either. China has a borderline monopoly on the entire eco ecosystem (hehe) from rare earths to manufacturing solar panels and batteries, and the economics of it all likely depends on China's low cost angle
We'll struggle to build mines for anything over here and our labour costs etc will never be competitive, so best case scenario will likely be switching out our OPEC+ energy overlords for Beijing
08-11-2021, 01:19 PM
#6408
Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lefticle again.
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08-11-2021, 01:19 PM
#6409
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
I don't think a lot of people realize green energy isn't as green as people think. Like Chinese manufacturing of solar panels uses coal. It'll be greener at some point in the future, but it's not right now.
Legit doesn't make any sense
I don't think the shift to "greener" tech will improve anything either. China has a borderline monopoly on the entire eco ecosystem (hehe) from rare earths to manufacturing solar panels and batteries, and the economics of it all likely depends on China's low cost angle
We'll struggle to build mines for anything over here and our labour costs etc will never be competitive, so best case scenario will likely be switching out our OPEC+ energy overlords for Beijing
I don't think the shift to "greener" tech will improve anything either. China has a borderline monopoly on the entire eco ecosystem (hehe) from rare earths to manufacturing solar panels and batteries, and the economics of it all likely depends on China's low cost angle
We'll struggle to build mines for anything over here and our labour costs etc will never be competitive, so best case scenario will likely be switching out our OPEC+ energy overlords for Beijing
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08-11-2021, 01:26 PM
#6410
Originally Posted By _zman⏩
Could probably bring up the disposal side of it as well, which seems to be largely ignored at the moment in terms of both environmental impact and cost
I don't think a lot of people realize green energy isn't as green as people think. Like Chinese manufacturing of solar panels uses coal. It'll be greener at some point in the future, but it's not right now.
08-11-2021, 02:49 PM
#6411
fairly confident if UPST breaks 172 with volume we should see 190s
Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
sorry sir got my dates wrong
Off by about 15 hours bub
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08-11-2021, 03:54 PM
#6412
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Spacs have gotten absolutely RINSED this week from positive earnings. IMO do not buy calls. Thank fuk I sold 7.5C against my PAYO shares. They beat estimates and raised guidance and got a 10% haircut. Ex-SPAC won’t win this week it seems.
Is there a resource you guys use to find previous earnings reports? I'm trying to look up SOFI but everywhere keeps turning up blank. Debating whether to buy some calls for tomorrow's earnings
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08-11-2021, 04:41 PM
#6413
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Well I meant literal ATHs, I wasn't saying don't buy something like AMZN today, I was just saying to wait for a dip. If UPST hit $250 tomorrow I wouldn't tell him not to buy it, I'd just tell him to wait for some kind of discount, you feel?
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
appreciate both your insights
Fair enough.
My advice: if the founder is the CEO, it'll be a good ride.
My advice: if the founder is the CEO, it'll be a good ride.
i got in on my stocks when i could…everytime ive sat back and tried to wait, i just see **** like tesla google and nvidia double or more….ive got in when i could, and if there were strong dips i would avg down. i had to do that with AAPL and it paid off.
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08-11-2021, 04:57 PM
#6414
Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Not so fast. 2 of our boy's spacs went HAM AH today on earnings. CLOV up 10% and OPEN up 20%
Spacs have gotten absolutely RINSED this week from positive earnings. IMO do not buy calls. Thank fuk I sold 7.5C against my PAYO shares. They beat estimates and raised guidance and got a 10% haircut. Ex-SPAC won’t win this week it seems.
08-11-2021, 05:35 PM
#6415
Viac is going to $70 by October
https://nypost.com/2021/08/10/viacom...itors-sources/
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08-11-2021, 07:11 PM
#6416
Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
Doesn't look like it will but hopefully PTRA (hes a PIPE anchor) rides the Chamath wave tmrw as well.
Not so fast. 2 of our boy's spacs went HAM AH today on earnings. CLOV up 10% and OPEN up 20%
08-11-2021, 07:24 PM
#6417
Originally Posted By BBAckman⏩
I don't understand what's going on with Proterra. Valuation seemed incredibly cheap at the time and they actually have solid battery tech and busses on the road but the market isn't reacting well for some reason. Another solid Chamath PIPE is MP, they're up around 40 bucks right now. One of the best performing de-spacs that has sustained its run.
Doesn't look like it will but hopefully PTRA (hes a PIPE anchor) rides the Chamath wave tmrw as well.
08-11-2021, 10:08 PM
#6418
Originally Posted By Heaney⏩
I might check out PTRA tomorrow. I’m pretty much fully hedged on PAYO down to 7.5 but I’m thinking it should hold 8.50 or $9. My $10 calls will expire worthless and I’ll close out the 7.5 calls once I’m certain weak retail hands are out and the market itself isn’t going to dump all the small caps. Feels weird having $2,500 in premiums on one company lmao
I don't understand what's going on with Proterra. Valuation seemed incredibly cheap at the time and they actually have solid battery tech and busses on the road but the market isn't reacting well for some reason. Another solid Chamath PIPE is MP, they're up around 40 bucks right now. One of the best performing de-spacs that has sustained its run.
Bought 200 warrants at $2 just in case the shares head back to $10 before I can unload the CCs
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08-11-2021, 10:12 PM
#6419
Proterra had that lame report about their busses sucking when they were first put into use in Philly. Those were a super old model and their current buses are far superior and Biden is gonna show them the $$$ in his infrastructure bill. Seems like an incredibly easy play on that alone. How many cities are going to put in giant orders.
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08-12-2021, 07:10 AM
#6420
Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
trump (and pretty much every president before him) didn't do the same on regular basis?
This just blows my mind, typical political BS.
Canada & USA could be completely energy independent yet Biden administration would rather boot lick OPEC.
Like wut
Canada & USA could be completely energy independent yet Biden administration would rather boot lick OPEC.
Like wut
I remember the tweets about increasing output or "else"
lol gotta stop believing that one party is better than the other one… they both suck and they both corrupt as ever
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