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09-10-2020, 10:51 AM
#6511
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
If I could find the black one… on steel… with the power reserve indicator rather than the moonphase (moonphase makes it look too dressy for steel). I think that would be the configuration i'd get it in. Blue is nice looking too though
Ohhhh chit….that blue dial….
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09-10-2020, 10:52 AM
#6512
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
That navy blue dial……mother of god.
lmao.
so this sent further spiraling into the davidSW archives, which lead me to finding the Lange Odysseus which he's selling for a whopping $69,000 when retail was $28,000. To be fair, i can't find another on Chrono24, watch recon, or anywhere which is crazy.
That lead me to looking if there were poorman lange's on steel for us mere mortals… and alas, i forgot they totally do.
40mm. Satisfies my desire for my next watch to be in steel. Also does the "dress up or dress down" vibe I was hoping to get from DJ41. Definitely going to go hit up my AD to see how this looks in the flesh. Only tried it on with the leather strap and that was 2 years ago.
so this sent further spiraling into the davidSW archives, which lead me to finding the Lange Odysseus which he's selling for a whopping $69,000 when retail was $28,000. To be fair, i can't find another on Chrono24, watch recon, or anywhere which is crazy.
That lead me to looking if there were poorman lange's on steel for us mere mortals… and alas, i forgot they totally do.
40mm. Satisfies my desire for my next watch to be in steel. Also does the "dress up or dress down" vibe I was hoping to get from DJ41. Definitely going to go hit up my AD to see how this looks in the flesh. Only tried it on with the leather strap and that was 2 years ago.
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09-10-2020, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
When I called Lange yesterday the lady told me they had an Odysseus in the store that I could check out if I came by. Not for sale though, but apparently nobody else has one in hand (except David apparently lol). After a little back and forth she said they were only for VVIPs. Also said they had some other cool stuff in there but it's already sold and the customers don't want anyone else touching them.
so this sent further spiraling into the davidSW archives, which lead me to finding the Lange Odysseus which he's selling for a whopping $69,000 when retail was $28,000. To be fair, i can't find another on Chrono24, watch recon, or anywhere which is crazy.
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09-10-2020, 11:46 AM
#6514
Originally Posted By BigRangs⏩
I don't blame them in the least bit. If i ever got in the position to spend 25, 50, 100k on a watch I don't want a bunch of randoms fingerprints and greasy armhairs on my chit either lol
When I called Lange yesterday the lady told me they had an Odysseus in the store that I could check out if I came by. Not for sale though, but apparently nobody else has one in hand (except David apparently lol). After a little back and forth
she said they were only for VVIPs. Also said they had some other cool stuff in there but it's already sold and the customers don't want anyone else touching them.
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09-10-2020, 12:02 PM
#6515
THat navy blue with the power reserve instead…..yes maam. So that's the pleb model?
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09-10-2020, 12:40 PM
#6516
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Pleb brand. You can kinda say Glashutte is to Tudor as Lange is to Rolex, but that's not true for a couple reasons. Lange doesn't own Glashutte Original, but they are made in Glashutte Germany (along with the brand "Glashutte Original" and "Nomos").
So that's the pleb model?
Second, while they are "cheaper", the only thing that Rolex does better than GO is probably their bracelets. There's a reason Rolex doesn't do open case backs, because they don't detail their movements for chit. Then again that's not really their bag. Nor are complications (outside of the skydweller), that's why Rolex isn't considered in the "Swiss Trinity" (Patek, Vacheron, AP) despite destroying everyone in regards to popularity /endrant.
TLDR: Yes "Glashutte Original" is the pleb brand of A. Lange & Sohne
…as i stated earlier though. NObody you see on the street outside of a Luxembourgian Wealth Manager is going to know the difference.
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09-10-2020, 01:15 PM
#6517
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Pleb brand. You can kinda say Glashutte is to Tudor as Lange is to Rolex, but that's not true for a couple reasons. Lange doesn't own Glashutte Original, but they are made in Glashutte Germany (along with the brand "Glashutte Original" and "Nomos").
Second, while they are "cheaper", the only thing that Rolex does better than GO is probably their bracelets. There's a reason Rolex doesn't do open case backs, because they don't detail their movements for chit. Then again that's not really their bag. Nor are complications (outside of the skydweller), that's why Rolex isn't considered in the "Swiss Trinity" (Patek, Vacheron, AP) despite destroying everyone in regards to popularity /endrant.
TLDR: Yes "Glashutte Original" is the pleb brand of A. Lange & Sohne
…as i stated earlier though. NObody you see on the street outside of a Luxembourgian Wealth Manager is going to know the difference.
Second, while they are "cheaper", the only thing that Rolex does better than GO is probably their bracelets. There's a reason Rolex doesn't do open case backs, because they don't detail their movements for chit. Then again that's not really their bag. Nor are complications (outside of the skydweller), that's why Rolex isn't considered in the "Swiss Trinity" (Patek, Vacheron, AP) despite destroying everyone in regards to popularity /endrant.
TLDR: Yes "Glashutte Original" is the pleb brand of A. Lange & Sohne
…as i stated earlier though. NObody you see on the street outside of a Luxembourgian Wealth Manager is going to know the difference.
Heck, Rolex doesn't even have a design on the solid back. I would disagree with you about the finishing though. They finish them quite well, they just don't add the fancy embellishments. 3235 below is nice. I believe I read somewhere a while back that the finishing for some of these watches i.e higher end Pateks etc makes up like 70% of the cost. Of course I can't find it now, so maybe I misunderstood or made it up.
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09-10-2020, 02:47 PM
#6518
Originally Posted By BigRangs⏩
When I said "They don't detail their movements for chit", i really meant "They don't detail their movements for chit considering where they sit in the watch community and how much they cost". I wasn't trying to insinuate that you bust open a Rolex case, and it looks like my brutish Oris ETA movement. That movement you posted clearly has some nice beveling and brushed surfaces.
Heck, Rolex doesn't even have a design on the solid back.
I would disagree with you about the finishing though. They finish them quite well, they just don't add the fancy embellishments.
3235 below is nice. I believe I read somewhere a while back that the finishing for some of these watches i.e higher end Pateks etc makes up like 70% of the cost. Of course I can't find it now, so maybe I misunderstood or made it up.
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But that's where Glashutte (given their rank/price) go kind of crazy. This is the back of that same GO Panoreserve i've been spamming
No one is arguing against rolex quality though. Particularly in regards to fit. I've never worn more comfortable watches. Also the msrp are around the same. 9 to 11k for the GO, though you're really going to buy them discounted to 8500 and we all know which brand is going to hold its value better.
Edit: I never considered buying the panoreserve on bracelet until this discussion broke out today. Just found out GO does microadjustrments on their bracelets. Will be trying this on in the flesh for sure.
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09-10-2020, 04:20 PM
#6519
Damn those are some good looking units.
I could see Rolex not doing much to "finish" movements. I mean why? No clear casebacks. Thats part of the reason i had to set the sapphire omega speedmaster down. Manual wind plus clear caseback. Goodness.
I could see Rolex not doing much to "finish" movements. I mean why? No clear casebacks. Thats part of the reason i had to set the sapphire omega speedmaster down. Manual wind plus clear caseback. Goodness.
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09-10-2020, 07:30 PM
#6520
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
When I said "They don't detail their movements for chit", i really meant "They don't detail their movements for chit considering where they sit in the watch community and how much they cost". I wasn't trying to insinuate that you bust open a Rolex case, and it looks like my brutish Oris ETA movement. That movement you posted clearly has some nice beveling and brushed surfaces.
But that's where Glashutte (given their rank/price) go kind of crazy. This is the back of that same GO Panoreserve i've been spamming
No one is arguing against rolex quality though. Particularly in regards to fit. I've never worn more comfortable watches. Also the msrp are around the same. 9 to 11k for the GO, though you're really going to buy them discounted to 8500 and we all know which brand is going to hold its value better.
Edit: I never considered buying the panoreserve on bracelet until this discussion broke out today. Just found out GO does microadjustrments on their bracelets. Will be trying this on in the flesh for sure.
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But that's where Glashutte (given their rank/price) go kind of crazy. This is the back of that same GO Panoreserve i've been spamming
No one is arguing against rolex quality though. Particularly in regards to fit. I've never worn more comfortable watches. Also the msrp are around the same. 9 to 11k for the GO, though you're really going to buy them discounted to 8500 and we all know which brand is going to hold its value better.
Edit: I never considered buying the panoreserve on bracelet until this discussion broke out today. Just found out GO does microadjustrments on their bracelets. Will be trying this on in the flesh for sure.
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I get it, but for me if you're going for movement style/finishing, the German style is nice, but kind of boring. Basically just a bunch of giant bridges and plates with Geneva stripes. Go Swiss style manual with no rotor and hnnnnggggg
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09-12-2020, 08:30 PM
#6521
Gut dayum Will.
Popped into the AD again to BS. Tried on this aqua terra. Omega is growing on me. (no my pic)
Bracelet felt like butter. Clear caseback. hnnnnnng.
Popped into the AD again to BS. Tried on this aqua terra. Omega is growing on me. (no my pic)
Bracelet felt like butter. Clear caseback. hnnnnnng.
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09-12-2020, 08:39 PM
#6522
I wonder if enforcer ever bought that odysseus. i remember him saying he liked it and was thinking about getting it.
I still prefer the older aqua terras with the date at 3oclock over the date at 6, but regardless it's a fuking perfect "dress up/dress down" watch.
The cherry on top is that while it doesn't attract Rolex attention, even the casual-est of people recognize Omega from the Olympics or something like that. Whereas with tudor… may as well be wearing a daniel wellington as far as brand recognition goes with common folk. Then again, same with GO and Lange lol
How did you like the overall fit compared to your airking? I've never tried on the AK but i did try on the explorer2. Didn't like the Ex2 look, but i'll be the first to admit they machined that piece flawlessly for maximum comfort.
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
I'm telling you, the aqua terra was the watch I was looking at before I bought the Tudor Bronze. That was going to be my pickup, but when tudor released the bronze with the black dial, i loved the character of it too much.
Gut dayum Will.
Popped into the AD again to BS. Tried on this aqua terra. Omega is growing on me. (no my pic)
Bracelet felt like butter. Clear caseback. hnnnnnng.
Popped into the AD again to BS. Tried on this aqua terra. Omega is growing on me. (no my pic)
Bracelet felt like butter. Clear caseback. hnnnnnng.
I still prefer the older aqua terras with the date at 3oclock over the date at 6, but regardless it's a fuking perfect "dress up/dress down" watch.
The cherry on top is that while it doesn't attract Rolex attention, even the casual-est of people recognize Omega from the Olympics or something like that. Whereas with tudor… may as well be wearing a daniel wellington as far as brand recognition goes with common folk. Then again, same with GO and Lange lol
How did you like the overall fit compared to your airking? I've never tried on the AK but i did try on the explorer2. Didn't like the Ex2 look, but i'll be the first to admit they machined that piece flawlessly for maximum comfort.
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09-13-2020, 06:08 AM
#6523
Found a new want this weekend. The stainless Rolex Rhodium DJ41 with the Wimbledon dial Is hnnngh.
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09-13-2020, 07:11 AM
#6524
Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
something about the roman numerals that grinds my gears. thats all you bro.
Found a new want this weekend. The stainless Rolex Rhodium DJ41 with the Wimbledon dial Is hnnngh.
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09-13-2020, 07:18 AM
#6525
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Supposedly itβs another one of those watches thatβs impossible to get. So will probably remain just as a want lol
something about the roman numerals that grinds my gears. thats all you bro.
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09-13-2020, 08:04 AM
#6526
Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
Supposedly itβs another one of those watches thatβs impossible to get. So will probably remain just as a want lol
I don't remember if it was my AD or a different one, but when I was there a few months ago they had two of them. Not sure if just a lucky coincidence or if maybe they're not that hard to get. I think it's more along the lines of tell them you want one, and they'll actually try to get you one (as opposed to just lying to you).
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09-13-2020, 08:12 AM
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09-13-2020, 08:15 AM
#6528
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
This. AD was joking about it when he brought out a sold DJ41 with romans and a non-fluted bezel. I just went…i dunno what it is about romans, but they just look meh and awkward to me. He joked and said, well to me it screams your "dad's" rolex.
something about the roman numerals that grinds my gears. thats all you bro.
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Bro it's gorgeous. My problem is i dont want similar watches yet. The AK and it are different, but similar. If i was going to buy an omega right now it would be the Sapphire Speedy. Which they had, but said it's the only omega they dont discount basically. So i was like meh right now. But god dayum that Aquaterra with the blue accents just felt money. It's just too "similar" right now. Ive kinda told myself once i get into my new place, get all of the cash worked out, if they havent called about the DJ or BLNR, i may snag the speedy.
I wonder if enforcer ever bought that odysseus. i remember him saying he liked it and was thinking about getting it.
I'm telling you, the aqua terra was the watch I was looking at before I bought the Tudor Bronze. That was going to be my pickup, but when tudor released the bronze with the black dial, i loved the character of it too much.
I still prefer the older aqua terras with the date at 3oclock over the date at 6, but regardless it's a fuking perfect "dress up/dress down" watch.
The cherry on top is that while it doesn't attract Rolex attention, even the casual-est of people recognize Omega from the Olympics or something like that. Whereas with tudor… may as well be wearing a daniel wellington as far as brand recognition goes with common folk. Then again, same with GO and Lange lol
How did you like the overall fit compared to your airking? I've never tried on the AK but i did try on the explorer2. Didn't like the Ex2 look, but i'll be the first to admit they machined that piece flawlessly for maximum comfort.
I'm telling you, the aqua terra was the watch I was looking at before I bought the Tudor Bronze. That was going to be my pickup, but when tudor released the bronze with the black dial, i loved the character of it too much.
I still prefer the older aqua terras with the date at 3oclock over the date at 6, but regardless it's a fuking perfect "dress up/dress down" watch.
The cherry on top is that while it doesn't attract Rolex attention, even the casual-est of people recognize Omega from the Olympics or something like that. Whereas with tudor… may as well be wearing a daniel wellington as far as brand recognition goes with common folk. Then again, same with GO and Lange lol
How did you like the overall fit compared to your airking? I've never tried on the AK but i did try on the explorer2. Didn't like the Ex2 look, but i'll be the first to admit they machined that piece flawlessly for maximum comfort.
Compared to the AK, it's definitely lighter and more "elegant" feeling. The AK is the milgauss case so it's hefty on the wrist. But feels….very masculine? The aqua terra would be more "dressy" in my opinion. Not in a bad way. I was shocked how the bracelet felt too. The rolex oyster bracelets always looked a felt so good to me. This one was equally nice in person. It wouldnt be an every day watch though i think. With the polished links.
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09-13-2020, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
This. AD was joking about it when he brought out a sold DJ41 with romans and a non-fluted bezel. I just went…i dunno what it is about romans, but they just look meh and awkward to me. He joked and said, well to me it screams your "dad's" rolex.
I usually don't like romans either, but if I ever buy a DD, it will probably have these romans:
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09-13-2020, 09:52 AM
#6530
Originally Posted By BigRangs⏩
Those look much more classy than the….fat?…romans on a DJ. Rose gold DD with green dial…i am full stand.
I usually don't like romans either, but if I ever buy a DD, it will probably have these romans:
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09-13-2020, 10:03 AM
#6531
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Man their dials, that is fukn hnnnnng
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09-13-2020, 10:08 AM
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I like your AK. I agree that it looks masculine, and definitely a good everyday watch that goes with pretty much everything.
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09-13-2020, 10:15 AM
#6533
Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
Can confirm
I like your AK. I agree that it looks masculine, and definitely a good everyday watch that goes with pretty much everything.
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09-13-2020, 12:49 PM
#6534
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
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Those look much more classy than the….fat?…romans on a DJ. Rose gold DD with green dial…i am full stand.
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09-13-2020, 02:00 PM
#6535
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
This watch mogs the DJ I thought I wanted. Seeing Wills pic of it doesn't really do it for me anymore. That Omega is stunning as well. Props for having the will power to not get it on the spot. When you're gonna drop that kind of money it's best to make sure it's the one you really want. So many nice watches out there.
Those look much more classy than the….fat?…romans on a DJ. Rose gold DD with green dial…i am full stand.
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09-13-2020, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
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09-13-2020, 06:08 PM
#6537
Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
I wanted the Aqua (but it was too similar to the AK right now for my limited collection) and the Speedy (saving the coin for the DJ or BLNR in all reality). Just trying to be patient.
This watch mogs the DJ I thought I wanted. Seeing Wills pic of it doesn't really do it for me anymore. That Omega is stunning as well. Props for having the will power to not get it on the spot. When you're gonna drop that kind of money it's best to make sure it's the one you really want. So many nice watches out there.
Some other "smart" financial things i do before i drop this kinda coin on a watch again too.
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09-14-2020, 05:42 AM
#6538
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Pretty much why I had to reluctantly cross off the Speedmaster Grey Side of the Moon from my next acquisition list.
I wanted the Aqua (but it was too similar to the AK right now for my limited collection)
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Literally starving for something remotely sleek on steel. Has to be a DJ41 config, new OP, or that glashutte panoreserve on bracelet. If I fell onto the jubilee blnr at msrp i wouldn't turn my nose up at that either but just lol at that happening. The panoreserve is the most visually enticing to me by far though.
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09-14-2020, 03:57 PM
#6539
sorry i'm done spamming this. just stumbled on this pic today and came
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09-14-2020, 08:00 PM
#6540
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Do you know the model # of this GS? Iβm not having much luck trying to google it
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