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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXV: Triggering Special Snowflakes since 2011 (We President Now)

post 1490398801 04-09-2017, 09:30 AM
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Reloads: slide lock lever vs over the top. Shrek puts this debate to rest.

https://youtu.be/wc3YnQMAUGQ
post 1490402071 04-09-2017, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Your grey market gun is $1800 for the additions of:
2 50-rd mags
$150 ammo

The gun I posted is $1159.99 w/ code April20

If the cost of 2 mags and 150 rounds of ammo and the convenience of this guy coming to your house (holy ****, lol at how stupid you'd have to be to conduct a transaction negotiated on backpages at your home) is worth $600, then this is a really ****ty firearm and you should probably pass.
Don't feed the troll
post 1490402931 04-09-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Don't feed the troll
He says, to Ike...
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Reloads: slide lock lever vs over the top. Shrek puts this debate to rest.

https://youtu.be/wc3YnQMAUGQ
lol @ "fine motor skill".

BRB, training to use the charging handle for 'slide lock' reloads on an AR because the bolt release is a "fine motor skill" and we won't be able to do it under stress. BRB extra large extended charging handle because the regular one is way too small and that 'fine motor skill' means it will fail. BRB there's no reason to train failure or stoppage drills because we won't have the fine motor skill to hold the slide/bolt lock and lock the action open. BRB not training reloads because the mag release is a fine motor skill

I use my support thumb to release the slide, but it's an economy of motion thing, this fine motor skill argument for it is indeed dumb as ****. Good call on that
post 1490405971 04-09-2017, 11:03 AM
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CDNN sports has 8 + 1 shields without safety for 289.99 (so after rebate it's 214.99) or with safety for 269.99 (so after rebate it's 194.99) + 14.99 flat shipping rate for up to 5 guns.
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post 1490406161 04-09-2017, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
lol @ "fine motor skill".

BRB, training to use the charging handle for 'slide lock' reloads on an AR because the bolt release is a "fine motor skill" and we won't be able to do it under stress. BRB extra large extended charging handle because the regular one is way too small and that 'fine motor skill' means it will fail. BRB there's no reason to train failure or stoppage drills because we won't have the fine motor skill to hold the slide/bolt lock and lock the action open. BRB not training reloads because the mag release is a fine motor skill

I use my support thumb to release the slide, but it's an economy of motion thing, this fine motor skill argument for it is indeed dumb as ****. Good call on that
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post 1490406191 04-09-2017, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
lol @ "fine motor skill".

BRB, training to use the charging handle for 'slide lock' reloads on an AR because the bolt release is a "fine motor skill" and we won't be able to do it under stress. BRB extra large extended charging handle because the regular one is way too small and that 'fine motor skill' means it will fail. BRB there's no reason to train failure or stoppage drills because we won't have the fine motor skill to hold the slide/bolt lock and lock the action open. BRB not training reloads because the mag release is a fine motor skill

I use my support thumb to release the slide, but it's an economy of motion thing, this fine motor skill argument for it is indeed dumb as ****. Good call on that
Speaking of malfunctions, at the match yesterday you had to single-load your rounds through the ejection port. Holy ****. That was the stupidest thing ever in the history of time. Didn't get the round sufficiently led into the chamber twice, what happens? Bolt coming forward jammed the nose of the bullet down onto the feed ramps, bullet set back into the casing, bolt stuck half way over the mag. Dropped mag, cleared jam, and fortunately looked at the round as I was reloading. Saw the setback and grabbed another round, but I didn't consciously check for setback. Praise be to Trump for guiding my eyes to the round and avoiding a kaboom. Obviously going to need to work on that madness if I'm going to keep shooting matches like that.
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post 1490406241 04-09-2017, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By NickDigger⏩
He says, to Ike...
I don't know what's wrong with me that I have to keep talking to them.
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post 1490406271 04-09-2017, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Speaking of malfunctions, at the match yesterday you had to single-load your rounds through the ejection port. Holy ****. That was the stupidest thing ever in the history of time. Didn't get the round sufficiently led into the chamber twice, what happens? Bolt coming forward jammed the nose of the bullet down onto the feed ramps, bullet set back into the casing, bolt stuck half way over the mag. Dropped mag, cleared jam, and fortunately looked at the round as I was reloading. Saw the setback and grabbed another round, but I didn't consciously check for setback. Praise be to Trump for guiding my eyes to the round and avoiding a kaboom. Obviously going to need to work on that madness if I'm going to keep shooting matches like that.
What matches and **** are you doing where you have to assemble the rifle as part of the stage and thing single hand load rounds through ejection port of an AR? Sense, it makes none?
post 1490406661 04-09-2017, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What matches and **** are you doing where you have to assemble the rifle as part of the stage and thing single hand load rounds through ejection port of an AR? Sense, it makes none?
ike on that civil war reenactment crew. the rounds are blanks brah
post 1490406761 04-09-2017, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
For those who CCW without a rnd chambered, just dont. Anyone who does that is really not ready to CCW and it can cost you your life. A graphic example with a really crappy outcome:

In an armed robbery that took place in Bakersfield, California, the store owner and his son quickly found themselves up against a few armed robbers.

The store owner had some things that he did correctly, such as being armed, but his biggest –and deadliest– mistake was not keeping a round in the chamber.

Not having a round in the chamber cost him his life, and the life of his son.

In the video above, you can see the store owner handing over his wallet to the armed robbers. One tip to point out in this situation is to, if possible, throw the wallet away from you so that the bad guy can divert his or her attention to the thrown wallet instead of yourself. This, in many instances, can give you the advantage of drawing your firearm and firing that first shot.

http://concealednation.org/2017/04/v...his-sons-life/
Deadly lesson to teach people. I hate to say it, I've probably talked to a dozen Illinois ccw holders over the past couple years who don't carry with one in the chamber. Most recently someone who that the Taurus Curve was god's gift the the concealed carry world. It saddens me and I hope they never have to use their firearm in a defensive situation.
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post 1490406951 04-09-2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Deadly lesson to teach people. I hate to say it, I've probably talked to a dozen Illinois ccw holders over the past couple years who don't carry with one in the chamber. Most recently someone who that the Taurus Curve was god's gift the the concealed carry world. It saddens me and I hope they never have to use their firearm in a defensive situation.
lol I forgot the Taurus Curve was a thing

post 1490407071 04-09-2017, 11:19 AM
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[QUOTE=Farley1324 post_id=1490406951]lol I forgot the Taurus Curve was a thing

[img]http://www.taurususa.com/curve/andrew-cashner-taurus-curve-banner.jpg[/mg][/QUOTE]Pretty telling that they've got a mediocre MLB pitcher in that ad, and not someone from the actual firearms community, like an instructor or competitive shooter.
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post 1490407141 04-09-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By NickDigger⏩
Pretty telling that they've got a mediocre MLB pitcher in that ad, and not someone from the actual firearms community, like an instructor or competitive shooter.
True story
post 1490408081 04-09-2017, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
lol I forgot the Taurus Curve was a thing

Originally Posted By NickDigger⏩
Pretty telling that they've got a mediocre MLB pitcher in that ad, and not someone from the actual firearms community, like an instructor or competitive shooter.
I pretty much despise Taurus as a manufacturer.

They've managed to find a niche with uninformed new gun owners, fudds, fudd gun store workers. They believe Taurus is a quality product for a cheap price. Somehow they are blind to the lawsuits and quality issues over the history of the company.
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Stock up Sundays in full effect. Snatched 700rds 7.62x39, 500 .45acp (why you so expensive) and some defensive ammo (50x.45, 100x9mm) das it. No blumpkin crew yet tho
post 1490409861 04-09-2017, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
Might be unpopular opinion for some in here but you don't need a bolt gun anymore, these modern AR's with the right round and barrel can consistently shoot sub-MOA which is more accurate then most people who're doing the shooting.
Yes gas guns have come a long way, but bolt guns are still waaaayyy easier to shoot well. If ARs were just as easy to shoot well as bolt guns, you would see people being competitive with them in PRS style matches. There are no rules against using gas guns in PRS. People choose not to because they aren't as good for that type of shooting. And it's not just accuracy. Gas guns have more moving parts and are less reliable, use a lot of energy to cycle the bolt resulting in a decreased velocity given the same load, are generally less forgiving of breakdowns in the fundementals and are just harder to shoot well.
post 1490409971 04-09-2017, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Deadly lesson to teach people. I hate to say it, I've probably talked to a dozen Illinois ccw holders over the past couple years who don't carry with one in the chamber. Most recently someone who thatthe Taurus Curve was god's gift the the concealed carry world. It saddens me and I hope they never have to use their firearm in a defensive situation.
Which confirms his opinion invalid.
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post 1490410271 04-09-2017, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What matches and **** are you doing where you have to assemble the rifle as part of the stage and thing single hand load rounds through ejection port of an AR? Sense, it makes none?
The assembly was just a stage for the local carbine league.

Single loading was for a 300 yd/600 yd match, 10 rounds fired for score at each distance at targets which are up for 20 seconds, then down for 20 seconds. I assume that the single loading is so that you only put one round into the target or each scored shot. Seemed pretty stupid to me, but since I'd heard of "single loading" Garrands and what not, apparently this isn't something unique.
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post 1490410611 04-09-2017, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Which confirms his opinion invalid.
Exactly


He pulled it out of his pocket to show the owner. Dropped the mag and racked the slide. No shell was ejected, idiot confirmed x3.

Owning a Taurus product
Owning a gimmick Taurus product
Not carrying with a round in the chamber
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post 1490411161 04-09-2017, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Exactly


He pulled it out of his pocket to show the owner. Dropped the mag and racked the slide. No shell was ejected, idiot confirmed x3.

Owning a Taurus product
Owning a gimmick Taurus product
Not carrying with a round in the chamber
My cheap ass PT111 g2 eats everything crew.
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15% off of all "spare parts" at Aero Precision today, and free shipping over $99.00. Includes things like BCGs, just ordered a nitride .308 BCG. One step closer...
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post 1490411251 04-09-2017, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
I pretty much despise Taurus as a manufacturer.

They've managed to find a niche with uninformed new gun owners, fudds, fudd gun store workers. They believe Taurus is a quality product for a cheap price. Somehow they are blind to the lawsuits and quality issues over the history of the company.
Had a coworker tell me he loads the first round in his HD pistol (doesn't carry) with those stupid 9mm shot shells. Tried to explain to him that would land him dead or in a legal disaster. Didn't go well.
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Exactly


He pulled it out of his pocket to show the owner. Dropped the mag and racked the slide. No shell was ejected, idiot confirmed x3.

Owning a Taurus product
Owning a gimmick Taurus product
Not carrying with a round in the chamber
Pulled a gun out of his pocket in a gun store that had a loaded mag in it.

Holy ****.
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post 1490412031 04-09-2017, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Aaron47pb⏩
Had a coworker tell me he loads the first round in his HD pistol (doesn't carry) with those stupid 9mm shot shells. Tried to explain to him that would land him dead or in a legal disaster. Didn't go well.
Aren't those things for shooting snakes?
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Originally Posted By Aaron47pb⏩
Had a coworker tell me he loads the first round in his HD pistol (doesn't carry) with those stupid 9mm shot shells. Tried to explain to him that would land him dead or in a legal disaster. Didn't go well.
father in law likes to load a few bird shot rounds into his hd gun. His ideology is that if he mistakenly shoots someone who is supposed to be in his home because he thinks they're a burglar, like my bro in law or someone else who lives there, it won't be lethal. Not a fan of that theory, prefer to have a wml and know who I'm shooting at, then again just me and the wife who live under my roof so less chance of having an issue like that.
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Pulled a gun out of his pocket in a gun store that had a loaded mag in it.

Holy ****.
surprised he wasn't asked to leave asap
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Originally Posted By hawaiifivebro⏩
My cheap ass PT111 g2 eats everything crew.
This is the wrong place to try to get any love for Taurus lol

Although the G2 isn't listed in the lawsuits I wouldn't own anything from Taurus.

http://www.guns.com/2016/10/15/lawsu...te-settlement/


Just googling PT111 G2 problems or issues will show many threads from different forums of issues. You got a "good one" many customers aren't so lucky.

Let's put it this way, I wouldn't trust my life with any Taurus product.
Originally Posted By Aaron47pb⏩
Had a coworker tell me he loads the first round in his HD pistol (doesn't carry) with those stupid 9mm shot shells. Tried to explain to him that would land him dead or in a legal disaster. Didn't go well.
Shot shells? What an idiot. He probably thinks you can't miss with bird shot either...
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Pulled a gun out of his pocket in a gun store that had a loaded mag in it.

Holy ****.
Yeah... lol Complete fuddery cringe.
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Just got back from the range.
Took the BCM and G19
Shot a VP9 again and its like shooting on Easy Mode.
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Originally Posted By hutch1999⏩
Blah Blah I love taurus
I realize that, just wanted to stir it up a bit lol. I'm happy for a $200 pistol pre shield rebate era.

And +1, for some reason the VP9 makes me a much better shot than I actually am.
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Originally Posted By hawaiifivebro⏩
I realize that, just wanted to stir it up a bit lol. I'm happy for a $200 pistol pre shield rebate era.

And +1, for some reason the VP9 makes me a much better shot than I actually am.
Or the rest of the pistols you've been shooting make you a worse shot then you really are
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