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12-15-2015, 01:37 AM
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ok thanks NinjaKix, do you use matrix metering for the background? then -1 / -2 ev (i normally just use -1ev)

ive been using a Godox es600 for outside stuff, but having to use a variable ND filter to stay under the 1/200 shutter sync rules out using the meter for the strobe.

this leaves me metering the strobe power by whats on the tiny screen & the histogram (not ideal)

do you use high speed sync for overpowering the sun?

anyway thanks again heres a couple examples of my latest work.. i am pretty happy with:








I just use spot metering and meter for something sitting in about the middle of the tonal range in the scene.

No HSS, Just use filters and adjust flash metering based on the amount of light stoppage the filter im using at the time applies (If Im using a 3 stop ND filter and shooting at f/1.6 I meter the flash for f/4.5). I wouldn't use a variable ND filter because you never truly know EXACTLY how much light its filtering. You can make a close guess and sometime even get it spot on, but I prefer to know the exact number i need to set flash for.

If I'm reading correctly, it sounds to me like you dont have an actual flash meter. If that's the case, definitely get one. All you do is input the ISO and Shutter speed your camera is set to, put the meter to the subjects face and press the meter button. It'll then tell you the Aperture you should be at for the light from the flash to be properly exposed. Raise or lower flash power until it's at your desired aperture. Perfect exposure 99% of the time.

Your photos look like you are doing a damn good job. Only problem I have w/ them is over saturation in certain parts of the frame. But that's a stylistic decision.
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12-15-2015, 02:24 AM
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I just use spot metering and meter for something sitting in about the middle of the tonal range in the scene.

No HSS, Just use filters and adjust flash metering based on the amount of light stoppage the filter im using at the time applies (If Im using a 3 stop ND filter and shooting at f/1.6 I meter the flash for f/4.5). I wouldn't use a variable ND filter because you never truly know EXACTLY how much light its filtering. You can make a close guess and sometime even get it spot on, but I prefer to know the exact number i need to set flash for.

If I'm reading correctly, it sounds to me like you dont have an actual flash meter. If that's the case, definitely get one. All you do is input the ISO and Shutter speed your camera is set to, put the meter to the subjects face and press the meter button. It'll then tell you the Aperture you should be at for the light from the flash to be properly exposed. Raise or lower flash power until it's at your desired aperture. Perfect exposure 99% of the time.

Your photos look like you are doing a damn good job. Only problem I have w/ them is over saturation in certain parts of the frame. But that's a stylistic decision.

thanks for your insight.

i do have a meter but theres not much point using with the variable ND.. as you pointed out you never know how much light its filtering. I might have to invest in a 3stop ND

anyway thanks again appreciate having someone to bounce ideas off

oh and what other ND do you find uselfull other than 3 stop?

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12-15-2015, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted By macd007⏩
thanks for your insight.

i do have a meter but theres not much point using with the variable ND.. as you pointed out you never know how much light its filtering. I might have to invest in a 3stop ND

anyway thanks again appreciate having someone to bounce ideas off

oh and what other ND do you find uselfull other than 3 stop?

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My 2nd filter is just a circular polarizer. 2 more stops of filtering and the ability to darken the sky if needed. Stack then and you have 5 stops. Never had any issue w/ these.
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12-17-2015, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted By macd007⏩
ok thanks NinjaKix, do you use matrix metering for the background? then -1 / -2 ev (i normally just use -1ev)

ive been using a Godox es600 for outside stuff, but having to use a variable ND filter to stay under the 1/200 shutter sync rules out using the meter for the strobe.

this leaves me metering the strobe power by whats on the tiny screen & the histogram (not ideal)

do you use high speed sync for overpowering the sun?

anyway thanks again heres a couple examples of my latest work.. i am pretty happy with:








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12-17-2015, 07:10 AM
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12-17-2015, 09:41 AM
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Good choice! I have the d7000 and am very satisfied with it! I use the 35mm f/1.8 dx most often on this body. What do you want to shoot?


Im thinking wildlife/nature/landscape mainly. I want to get into Night/Star photography but I think its too early for that yet. From what ive gathered that is a bit more money for proper lenses

Any recommendations?
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12-17-2015, 09:59 AM
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I want to get into Night/Star photography but I think its too early for that yet. From what ive gathered that is a bit more money for proper lenses

Any recommendations?
f/2.8 or faster is generally preferred if you want to capture the Milky Way and auroras, etc., although what you choose to include in the foreground, how close it is, and how sharp you want it to be, will determine how far you need to stop down to get the depth of field you need. Having a fast lens is a nice luxury.

Getting up there in price ($795) but the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 would be a good choice. On crop at the wide end you've got the field of view of a 27mm on FX. Not bad. You can always shoot a quick 2 or 3 shot pano if you need more than that.

The Nikon 20mm 1.8G is a around the same price but obviously won't be as flexible as the zoom.
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12-17-2015, 10:07 AM
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Im thinking wildlife/nature/landscape mainly. I want to get into Night/Star photography but I think its too early for that yet. From what ive gathered that is a bit more money for proper lenses

Any recommendations?
wildlife / nature sounds like you'll want a longer lens…. 300mm or so, maybe more. Are you trying to get birds, mammals? small insects? insects means macro lens probably. You get a bonus on longer lenses with the 1.5 crop factor.

For landscape and star photography you'll want a wide lens, the wider the better especially since you'll be fighting the 1.5 crop to go wide.

in both cases get the widest aperture you can(lowest f/#). You can probably get a 2.8 for the wide end and down to maybe a 4 or 5.6 on the long end. Vibration Reduction also helps for handheld shots. Shooting night photography you might be better served with a nice prime at f/1.8 depending on the particular application.
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12-17-2015, 10:20 AM
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^^Excellent PP.


Im heading to DC this weekend. Got any cool ideas/things to photograph?
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12-17-2015, 10:37 AM
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^^Excellent PP.


Im heading to DC this weekend. Got any cool ideas/things to photograph?
not sure if talkin to me but if you are thx. DC can be meh in the winter…but hit the lincoln memorial for sunrise or ww2 memorial(right next to each other) and for sunset you can do the capital or tidal basin area


this is the last bridge on Ncapital street at the intersection of Ncapital NE and new york ave NE. would be cool if they finished construction of the capital already.

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12-17-2015, 11:16 AM
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not sure if talkin to me but if you are thx. DC can be meh in the winter…but hit the lincoln memorial for sunrise or ww2 memorial(right next to each other) and for sunset you can do the capital or tidal basin area


this is the last bridge on Ncapital street at the intersection of Ncapital NE and new york ave NE. would be cool if they finished construction of the capital already.


Yep I was referring to you.

Cool stuff! Thanks!
I'll post some pics after the weekend of the trip
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12-18-2015, 08:21 AM
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The biggest thing is always metering everything. It's easy to get lazy and say "Close Enough" but if you dont have the right balance, it's hard as hell to bring it back in a natural way. I underexpose the background by anywhere between 1-2 stops depending on the scene or mood I'm going for and meter flash at perfect exposure.

I really felt like I turned the corner once I decided to keep it simple. I used to roll out w/ 2 Einsteins and a Speedlight for rimlight, but that **** is so unnecessary and just leads to overthinking EVERYTHING. Just one light in a complimentary position to the sun and a reflector is all you need.
Is there a particular product you'd recommend that you've had good luck with? Something maybe a bit on the cheaper side for us non-pros? I'd like to give that a shot, as I've been doing the SWAG method as you've mentioned… also i'm using only manual flash w/ no TTL.
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12-18-2015, 08:36 AM
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Anyone looking to make a trip to the Detroit area anytime soon? I am looking for people to shoot with because I moved there and dont know many people. I know some cool spots.

I apologize for not posting as much as I planned on. School finals were getting in the way as well as shooting some city work.
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12-18-2015, 08:39 AM
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I have been trying to get some rooftop access to get some night shots of Detroit. One spot (which yields amazing results) is the Book Tower. The building is closed because they are doing some maintenance work to remove the lead and asbestos and whatever else is found to be potentially harmful.

I went to the company who owns the Book Tower, and the lady was a total jerk. She told me it won't happen in a snarky response.




What did I tell her after that? I told her to check out Instagram with the hashtag #BookTower and she will find my view
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12-21-2015, 01:39 AM
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Im thinking wildlife/nature/landscape mainly. I want to get into Night/Star photography but I think its too early for that yet. From what ive gathered that is a bit more money for proper lenses

Any recommendations?
Milky way: Samyang, Rokinon, Bower (all the same lens) 14mm Best bang for buck wide milky way shots.

Flickr search for Samyang 14mm: https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=...4mm&advanced=1 You can see there's lots of great milky way shots, as well as landscapes/nature stuff - though it might be a little wide depending on what you want to shoot.

For wildlife you will need a zoom (most likely) it's pretty hard to get up close and personal with most wildlife. Something ~200-300 on the long end should be fine but I'm mostly a canon shooter so I don't know much about Nikon lenses.
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12-21-2015, 05:33 AM
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^Without even looking at the exif, I'm guessing 50mm 1.8? Try that same shot wide open.

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I looked, I was right haha.
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12-22-2015, 01:57 PM
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^Without even looking at the exif, I'm guessing 50mm 1.8? Try that same shot wide open.

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I looked, I was right haha.
yep. correct. too late for wide open, i just sold it last night - i want to grab the sigma 50mm 1.4 art - this piece of glass gets great reviews and is quite a bit cheaper than cannon's 50mm L
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Finally found one of my stock photos I sold in a book after some googling. Bought it off amazon and it came today. Just a small detail of the Pantheon in Rome, but cool to see my name and photo in a book

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12-22-2015, 06:10 PM
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trying to take photos of products for my website, the products are cookies in a clear box - there's always a glare on the box, tried putting it in the white photo tent, still didnt look great. any tips would be appreciated.
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misc photographers - need help

trying to take photos of products for my website, the products are cookies in a clear box - there's always a glare on the box, tried putting it in the white photo tent, still didnt look great. any tips would be appreciated.
Clear reflective surfaces are always tricky, it's all about the lighting direction and size.

Move things around, move lights, move the item, change the angles.
If you have a polarizing filter you can cut down on the reflections.
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misc photographers - need help

trying to take photos of products for my website, the products are cookies in a clear box - there's always a glare on the box, tried putting it in the white photo tent, still didnt look great. any tips would be appreciated.
Move the lights around and try different angles….. also you can try to "flag" the trouble area with a black cutout.
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Clear reflective surfaces are always tricky, it's all about the lighting direction and size.

Move things around, move lights, move the item, change the angles.
If you have a polarizing filter you can cut down on the reflections.
Circular Polarizer is probably the best way to go. It won't completely cut them out if they're really harsh, but it does make it a bit more tasteful.

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12-24-2015, 01:09 AM
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Alright fellas, think I finally found the one: Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM. Its on Adorama for $399 and found it on eBay for $295.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sigma-17-50m...gAAOSw2XFUkHW0



I plan on just getting this one for now, seems like a good general purpose lens until i decide to get a zoom for better wildlife photography (and while I just learn the basics of photography)


Do you fellas think I should buy it on ebay or adorama? Anyone have experience with this lens? Putting it on my d7100
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Alright fellas, think I finally found the one: Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM. Its on Adorama for $399 and found it on eBay for $295.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sigma-17-50m...gAAOSw2XFUkHW0



I plan on just getting this one for now, seems like a good general purpose lens until i decide to get a zoom for better wildlife photography (and while I just learn the basics of photography)


Do you fellas think I should buy it on ebay or adorama? Anyone have experience with this lens? Putting it on my d7100
A solid lens, especially at that price. Only thing I would advise is that if you ever decide to sell your D7100 and go full-frame, it's designed solely for APS-C sensors.
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if you ever decide to sell your D7100 and go full-frame
Which is always going to be tempting now that there are gray market 6Ds around a grand and D750s under $1400.
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