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03-17-2021, 09:28 AM
#7021
Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
Daniel Brunskill. He's played every position on the line except LT and started all 16 games last year at G and C. He is a better G and would be even better if he could settle into 1 position. He held Aaron Donald in check. Not saying he is great or anything just think he has a chance to be good if they can keep him at G for a year.
Cool. Who is the 5th member of the line then?
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03-17-2021, 10:46 AM
#7022
Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
Well not every starter on your OL can be a superstar. Makes a huge difference if all are at least competent players though. My team's OL (Vikings) is full of gaping holes as far as talent. A couple decent young players, rest is junk at the moment……
Daniel Brunskill. He's played every position on the line except LT and started all 16 games last year at G and C. He is a better G and would be even better if he could settle into 1 position. He held Aaron Donald in check. Not saying he is great or anything just think he has a chance to be good if they can keep him at G for a year.
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03-17-2021, 11:17 AM
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I'm not in love with paying Williams that much Bakhitari is at 23m so there wasn't much wiggle room, especially since he had to get signed. I still think people are too low on Jimmy. There is an injury concern but the capital it requires to get an upgrade is too much at QB.
03-17-2021, 12:20 PM
#7024
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
Injury concern is massive, he's missed almost as much as he's played. And a few of the games he did play last year the injury hindered him he couldn't even keep his feet planted while throwing. It's not not a huge deal
I'm not in love with paying Williams that much Bakhitari is at 23m so there wasn't much wiggle room, especially since he had to get signed. I still think people are too low on Jimmy. There is an injury concern but the capital it requires to get an upgrade is too much at QB.
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03-17-2021, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
I feel confident in Jimmy when he’s healthy behind that line, with our weapons.
I'm not in love with paying Williams that much Bakhitari is at 23m so there wasn't much wiggle room, especially since he had to get signed. I still think people are too low on Jimmy. There is an injury concern but the capital it requires to get an upgrade is too much at QB.
But we absolutely need a rookie behind him. Doesn’t have to be at 12 but at least in rounds 2-4. Shanahan has to find someone that can put pressure on Jimmy.
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03-17-2021, 09:08 PM
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03-17-2021, 10:32 PM
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would you guys be ok with bringing back Alex Smith as a backup? Everyone loves him, would be a good leader and backup for Jimmy.
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03-26-2021, 10:33 AM
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We now have the #3 pick in draft. Crazy $hit…. I expect a QB pick. I do not think we will drop Jimmy this year. But next year he is gone and will have a lot of cap space for extensions and other signings.
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03-26-2021, 10:39 AM
#7029
Originally Posted By jwtiger69⏩
I feel like Trevor and Fields are going 1 and 2, so we are going to pick up Wilson? 100% it's a QB pick, no reason to give up so much to move up 9 slots
We now have the #3 pick in draft. Crazy $hit…. I expect a QB pick. I do not think we will drop Jimmy this year. But next year he is gone and will have a lot of cap space for extensions and other signings.
I don't like how much we gave up for it but if we grab a good QB to put behind Jimmy and pressure him then we will have a pretty complete team. Yolo, time to get excited for the draft!
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03-26-2021, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
I feel like Trevor and Fields are going 1 and 3, so we are going to pick up Wilson? 100% it's a QB pick, no reason to give up so much to move up 9 slots
I don't like how much we gave up for it but if we grab a good QB to put behind Jimmy and pressure him then we will have a pretty complete team. Yolo, time to get excited for the draft!
I don't like how much we gave up for it but if we grab a good QB to put behind Jimmy and pressure him then we will have a pretty complete team. Yolo, time to get excited for the draft!
Pretty exciting off season so far. Can't wait for the draft now. Then to think about next year when we can probably get ride of Jimmy. We will save a lot of cap space for Bosa, Warner and some other signings. Now the draft is really about filling holes at this point. I have no clue what will happen next.
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03-26-2021, 11:20 AM
#7031
WHAT?!?! WHY ON EARTH DID THE 49ers MAKE THAT TRADE
03-26-2021, 11:20 AM
#7032
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
WHAT?!?! WHY ON EARTH DID THE 49ers MAKE THAT TRADE
QB reasons.
03-26-2021, 11:29 AM
#7033
Originally Posted By shmobin⏩
3 firsts and a 3rd for justin fields is absurdly bad gm'ing when Watson is available in that range
QB reasons.
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03-26-2021, 11:37 AM
#7034
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
You still want Watson?
3 firsts and a 3rd for justin fields is absurdly bad gm'ing when Watson is available in that range
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03-26-2021, 11:44 AM
#7035
Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
I want Jimmy + the picks
You still want Watson?
03-26-2021, 11:45 AM
#7036
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
Watson may be out of the NFL after this rape fiasco
3 firsts and a 3rd for justin fields is absurdly bad gm'ing when Watson is available in that range
i've officially turned on Lynch
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03-26-2021, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
yeah, but the point I was making if you were going to throw away the future you should have done it to aggressively pursue a proven commodity rather than gamble on the 3rd best QB in the draft
Watson may be out of the NFL after this rape fiasco
03-26-2021, 12:21 PM
#7038
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
Watson aside, what proven commodity?
yeah, but the point I was making if you were going to throw away the future you should have done it to aggressively pursue a proven commodity rather than gamble on the 3rd best QB in the draft
Also, Wilson may be the best one as far as actually fitting Kyle's offense. It's not just about best.
It's more of a haul than I would have liked to see but "throwing away the future" is a big dramatic. Assuming things go as they should, those first round picks will likely be low anyway
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03-26-2021, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
Watson is getting cancelled bruh. He's toxic AF right now.
3 firsts and a 3rd for justin fields is absurdly bad gm'ing when Watson is available in that range
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03-26-2021, 12:34 PM
#7040
Originally Posted By frezKo⏩
He's started like 55% of his games in SF
Can someone explain to me why on earth the 9ers are so keen on moving on from Jimmy G?
He looked like a decent QB. Not ever gonna be top 5 but showed some promise on potentially being a top 10 qb a couple of times.
He looked like a decent QB. Not ever gonna be top 5 but showed some promise on potentially being a top 10 qb a couple of times.
Can't make a run if you don't have a healthy QB
I think they draft Wilson and have him right on Jimmy's ass. Keep Jimmy hungry knowing that there's a dude right there if you slip up
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03-26-2021, 01:51 PM
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Jesus. I wonder who they're targeting? Zach Wilson I assume?
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03-26-2021, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Here is my issue with it. Watson is a star in his prime. I can see the rationale for trading away 3 firsts because the 49ers are in win-now mode. However, trading 3 1sts for a rookie QB doesn't make any sense because
Watson aside, what proven commodity?
Also, Wilson may be the best one as far as actually fitting Kyle's offense. It's not just about best.
It's more of a haul than I would have liked to see but "throwing away the future" is a big dramatic. Assuming things go as they should, those first round picks will likely be low anyway
Also, Wilson may be the best one as far as actually fitting Kyle's offense. It's not just about best.
It's more of a haul than I would have liked to see but "throwing away the future" is a big dramatic. Assuming things go as they should, those first round picks will likely be low anyway
A) A rookie doesn't make the team better. It is incredibly unlikely a rookie will be better than Jimmy year 1. It's not a win-now move
B) The draft could have allowed the 49ers to address areas of weakness that would have helped the 49ers improve immediately
C) If the rookie busts and 1st round QB's do bust at a decently high level, we have lost a significant amount of our assets
D) It seems like there was going to be a run on QB's. At our spot, we could have got one of the top position players in the draft.
Watson, Stafford, and Dak were all on the market that is and an upgrade over Jimmy. If you're willing to pay 3 1sts, I'm sure there would be a lot of other QB's better than him also available. This would be a better fit for the timetable.
Originally Posted By frezKo⏩
He was pretty much a top 10 guy before his injury. After his injury, he put up top 10 numbers but the degree of difficulty in his passes was insanely low. He has a lot of Favre in him with less talent.
Can someone explain to me why on earth the 9ers are so keen on moving on from Jimmy G?
He looked like a decent QB. Not ever gonna be top 5 but showed some promise on potentially being a top 10 qb a couple of times.
He looked like a decent QB. Not ever gonna be top 5 but showed some promise on potentially being a top 10 qb a couple of times.
Originally Posted By shmobin⏩
Yeah, but he wasn't toxic at the start of FA.
Watson is getting cancelled bruh. He's toxic AF right now.
03-26-2021, 02:05 PM
#7043
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
As far as draft order, Jags / Jets / Panthers / Broncos were all ahead and I think would all go for QB. So the big 4 would be gone by the time the 9ers were up
Here is my issue with it. Watson is a star in his prime. I can see the rationale for trading away 3 firsts because the 49ers are in win-now mode. However, trading 3 1sts for a rookie QB doesn't make any sense because
A) A rookie doesn't make the team better. It is incredibly unlikely a rookie will be better than Jimmy year 1. It's not a win-now move
B) The draft could have allowed the 49ers to address areas of weakness that would have helped the 49ers improve immediately
C) If the rookie busts and 1st round QB's do bust at a decently high level, we have lost a significant amount of our assets
D) It seems like there was going to be a run on QB's. At our spot, we could have got one of the top position players in the draft.
Watson, Stafford, and Dak were all on the market that is and an upgrade over Jimmy. If you're willing to pay 3 1sts, I'm sure there would be a lot of other QB's better than him also available. This would be a better fit for the timetable.
He was pretty much a top 10 guy before his injury. After his injury, he put up top 10 numbers but the degree of difficulty in his passes was insanely low. He has a lot of Favre in him with less talent.
Yeah, but he wasn't toxic at the start of FA.
A) A rookie doesn't make the team better. It is incredibly unlikely a rookie will be better than Jimmy year 1. It's not a win-now move
B) The draft could have allowed the 49ers to address areas of weakness that would have helped the 49ers improve immediately
C) If the rookie busts and 1st round QB's do bust at a decently high level, we have lost a significant amount of our assets
D) It seems like there was going to be a run on QB's. At our spot, we could have got one of the top position players in the draft.
Watson, Stafford, and Dak were all on the market that is and an upgrade over Jimmy. If you're willing to pay 3 1sts, I'm sure there would be a lot of other QB's better than him also available. This would be a better fit for the timetable.
He was pretty much a top 10 guy before his injury. After his injury, he put up top 10 numbers but the degree of difficulty in his passes was insanely low. He has a lot of Favre in him with less talent.
Yeah, but he wasn't toxic at the start of FA.
The rest of this team is pretty complete to be honest. Most holes that popped up last year were due to injuries. This team when healthy is very complete right now, and Jimmy is one of the only ones with consistent injury issues
I understand what you're saying but I think the front office is really in win now mode and feel like the rookie QB can keep Jimmy on the straight and narrow and force him to step up or lose his spot. It was too many 1sts, but again if things go as planned those will be late first round picks anyway. Still important, but not giving away the future bad
I really think they were gunning for Watson and then the rape allegations literally destroyed the plan. I see this as their back-up plan. If Watson was still available with no rape strings attached I don't think this trade up would have happened
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03-26-2021, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
I agree. The issue is the risk/reward. The risk is incredibly high since they're investing 3 1sts in the player. From 1986-2010, 1st round QB's had the least likelihood of becoming all-pros (5%) which is almost 3 times less than the next lowest group TE's at 14% and 5 times less than LB's at 26%. The 49ers have better odds since they have a great team but it's just such a bad bet they didn't need to make.
As far as draft order, Jags / Jets / Panthers / Broncos were all ahead and I think would all go for QB. So the big 4 would be gone by the time the 9ers were up
The rest of this team is pretty complete to be honest. Most holes that popped up last year were due to injuries. This team when healthy is very complete right now, and Jimmy is one of the only ones with consistent injury issues
I understand what you're saying but I think the front office is really in win now mode and feel like the rookie QB can keep Jimmy on the straight and narrow and force him to step up or lose his spot. It was too many 1sts, but again if things go as planned those will be late first round picks anyway. Still important, but not giving away the future bad
I really think they were gunning for Watson and then the rape allegations literally destroyed the plan. I see this as their back-up plan. If Watson was still available with no rape strings attached I don't think this trade up would have happened
I really think they were gunning for Watson and then the rape allegations literally destroyed the plan. I see this as their back-up plan. If Watson was still available with no rape strings attached I don't think this trade up would have happened
03-26-2021, 03:46 PM
#7045
Originally Posted By dyee4613⏩
I can see it being a panic move too. I think literally they were going for Deshaun and that blew up, so now they're sitting here thinking well we have Jimmy and if he goes down we have no one.
I agree. The issue is the risk/reward. The risk is incredibly high since they're investing 3 1sts in the player. From 1986-2010, 1st round QB's had the least likelihood of becoming all-pros (5%) which is almost 3 times less than the next lowest group TE's at 14% and 5 times less than LB's at 26%. The 49ers have better odds since they have a great team but it's just such a bad bet they didn't need to make.
I am worried the defense falls off without Salah. The 49ers had a top 10 defense by DVOA with everyone hurt. I think the man is really underrated as a coach. I think there are a still a lot of question marks w/ this secondary but I hope I'm wrong.
It is a LOT to invest for someone to sit on the bench for a year even though that is the smarter play. The nice thing is we have a ton more cap space if they cut Jimmy and roll with a rookie in year 2. I just see it as a panic move. You can have 3 more draft picks if you ran it back with Jimmy and went with a high-upside backup like Darnold or Rosen. They don't have the new toy smell but they were both 1st round picks that went to bad situations. They also have the benefit of experience NFL-level competition.
I am worried the defense falls off without Salah. The 49ers had a top 10 defense by DVOA with everyone hurt. I think the man is really underrated as a coach. I think there are a still a lot of question marks w/ this secondary but I hope I'm wrong.
It is a LOT to invest for someone to sit on the bench for a year even though that is the smarter play. The nice thing is we have a ton more cap space if they cut Jimmy and roll with a rookie in year 2. I just see it as a panic move. You can have 3 more draft picks if you ran it back with Jimmy and went with a high-upside backup like Darnold or Rosen. They don't have the new toy smell but they were both 1st round picks that went to bad situations. They also have the benefit of experience NFL-level competition.
They could also just be really really high on these guys, who knows. You know how shanahan is with QBs
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03-26-2021, 04:34 PM
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Fields or Wilson. I assume they’re comfortable with either at #3 and Fields will be there.
Win now mode. You got a good o line, and defense is back healthy
Win now mode. You got a good o line, and defense is back healthy
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03-26-2021, 04:44 PM
#7047
Originally Posted By Droopdx⏩
YOLO
Fields or Wilson. I assume they’re comfortable with either at #3 and Fields will be there.
Win now mode. You got a good o line, and defense is back healthy
Win now mode. You got a good o line, and defense is back healthy
At least this makes the draft more exciting!
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03-26-2021, 04:52 PM
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I love the aggression but you have to understand that Fields sucks.
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03-26-2021, 04:54 PM
#7049
Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
I honestly think it'll be Wilson
I love the aggression but you have to understand that Fields sucks.
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03-26-2021, 05:58 PM
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Why are we talking about Watson? His legal troubles won’t be going away for at least a year. Plus it would have been more to trade for Watson. We gave up 2 firsts and a late 3rd rounder. The two firsts will hopefully be late firsts too since we should be in the playoffs.
Watson was three first rounders at minimum. No swapping and probably would have been more since other teams like the panthers are reportedly after him as well who pick before us.
I love this trade. I just hope we pick the right QB. Trey Lance intrigued me. I like Fields too.
Watson was three first rounders at minimum. No swapping and probably would have been more since other teams like the panthers are reportedly after him as well who pick before us.
I love this trade. I just hope we pick the right QB. Trey Lance intrigued me. I like Fields too.
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