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03-04-2024, 08:39 PM
#691
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Yes. Gel, oral, and injection are all different and have quite different typical dosages.
you think 10g/day is low?

Really?

I'm at 20 a month

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03-04-2024, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul
you think 10g/day is low?

Really?

I'm at 20 a month


That's the upper end of 1% gel dose (10mg test.). The lower end of the range would be 2.5mg test.

The guidelines clearly indicate target serum levels rather than giving everyone the maximum end of a range.

20mg a month is extremely low, but if it's working that's cool. Is it a non-pharma gel?
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03-04-2024, 09:16 PM
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fuking lol
hurr durr choping sentences is the best you can do. LOL. Dork
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03-04-2024, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
That's the upper end of 1% gel dose (10mg test.). The lower end of the range would be 2.5mg test.

The guidelines clearly indicate target serum levels rather than giving everyone the maximum end of a range.

20mg a month is extremely low, but if it's working that's cool. Is it a non-pharma gel?
2.5 lower, 20 on high end…so let's call it 10mg a day on average, I'm at 20 a month at 45 yrs old, and somehow you think 10mg a day to a child is not pumping them full of drugs?
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03-04-2024, 09:19 PM
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PK is on gear and he looks like he stars in gay twink porn? You're doing it wrong, PK.
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Tell me your ghey without telling me your ghey..

Imagine thinking in your head about another dude and gay twink.

Just lol. You just outed yourself dum dum



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03-04-2024, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul
Tell me your ghey without telling me your ghey..

Imagine thinking in your head about another dude and gay twink.

Just lol. You just outed yourself dum dum

No, I'm not thinking about you other than to say if you're really pinning gear and you look like you star in gay twink porn, you're doing it wrong. There's no excuse for not looking massive on gear.
Back off, Warchild.

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03-04-2024, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul
"Testosterone 1% gel 2.5 – 10 g/day"

I use a gel too..is that different somehow as well??
This one is for you.

Originally Posted By Bodhy
Of course, it matters what sort of 'juicing' we're talking about here.


I knew plenty of guys back in the day who hopped on very short test-only cycle, or test + "The breakfast of champions", didn't take training too seriously, still drank and did drugs, didn't bother with PCT and still made some decent gains. Emerged OK at the other end, too, apart from some anger issues during cycle. Typical Chest & Bi's only weekend warrior douchebags.


Conversely, there's an IFBB style cycle which involves massive amounts of test, tren and then HGH and insulin and IGF-1 etc. Assuming you don't misdose your insulin and go into a coma off the bat, guys on this stuff are just asking for all sorts of issues down the road.



Me, personally, I've done clen. I bought vials of Test and Sus250 but could never muster up the balls to do a cycle with them, plus I didn't have the money for PCT at the time which could be courting disaster. Even with clen alone, I got jitters, ectopic beats and anxiety. It was pretty gnarly, but it did work.
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03-05-2024, 03:34 AM
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Just dropping in to lol at Bodhy calling what Paul does “hopping on gear” when he’s taking the lowest dose Ive ever heard of….and to lmao at him bashing someone else’s appearance(as usual) when he himself looks like a poster child for frogtech(which is even more funny now that I know he’s used clen in the past).
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03-05-2024, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul
2.5 lower, 20 on high end…so let's call it 10mg a day on average, I'm at 20 a month at 45 yrs old, and somehow you think 10mg a day to a child is not pumping them full of drugs?
No, 2.5mg lower, 10mg upper.

Who's referring to children?
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03-05-2024, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
What are your thoughts on TRT?

Paul is lining big pharma's pockets, too
He's an adult male, taking a small dose.

Way to compare that to a female taking it, which will alter them forever.
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03-05-2024, 04:35 AM
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No, I'm not thinking about you other than to say if you're really pinning gear and you look like you star in gay twink porn, you're doing it wrong. There's no excuse for not looking massive on gear.
Wait….. You think thst just because someone takes a small dose of TRT, that they're gonna become massive???
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03-05-2024, 04:43 AM
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He's an adult male, taking a small dose.

Way to compare that to a female taking it, which will alter them forever.
You seemed to be upset over giving pharma companies money.

So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?

Seems a bit hypocritical.
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03-05-2024, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You seemed to be upset over giving pharma companies money.

So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?

Seems a bit hypocritical.

you still here defending p3dos you creepwad?
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03-05-2024, 04:52 AM
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I actually see that Paul is on TRT and not doing a full dosed cycle. My apologies to Paul for reading that out of context, 100% srs.


But really, take a bit more, so you don't look like the star of gay twink porn.
Back off, Warchild.

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03-05-2024, 04:54 AM
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you still here defending p3dos you creepwad?
Nope.

Never did to begin with
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03-05-2024, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I actually see that Paul is on TRT and not doing a full dosed cycle. My apologies to Paul for reading that out of context, 100% srs.
We disagree on just about everything, but repped for being able to admit when wrong(which we all are from time to time) and apologizing. Maybe next you can teach J.L.C. how to do that.
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03-05-2024, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I actually see that Paul is on TRT and not doing a full dosed cycle. My apologies to Paul for reading that out of context, 100% srs.


But really, take a bit more, so you don't look like the star of gay twink porn.
How do you know what people in gay porn look like?
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03-05-2024, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You seemed to be upset over giving pharma companies money.

So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?

Seems a bit hypocritical.
So going to a clinic, as an adult, and getting on TRT, which will improve your life, is the same as a preteen getting on puberty blockers, which will permanently alter their body, brain, face, voice, etc.

It's the same as getting someone hooked on anti-depressants, or ********, or pain killers.
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03-05-2024, 06:04 AM
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Are you against psychiatric medications, Dave? Anything you want to share? Bad experiences? Hearing voices?
For someone who supposedly has a firm grasp on modern medicine it seems odd that you didn’t even realize testosterone can improve well-being regardless of what gender a person identifies as.
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03-05-2024, 06:18 AM
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03-05-2024, 06:20 AM
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So going to a clinic, as an adult, and getting on TRT, which will improve your life, is the same as a preteen getting on puberty blockers, which will permanently alter their body, brain, face, voice, etc.

It's the same as getting someone hooked on anti-depressants, or ********, or pain killers.
You understand TRT for adults is lifelong, right? Almost everyone would be prescribed more than 70mg a week that Paul is referring to as "pumped full of drugs".

Why do y'all keep trying to make it about kids?

Are trans children the p3dophiles with which you're concerned?
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03-05-2024, 06:21 AM
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For someone who supposedly has a firm grasp on modern medicine it seems odd that you didn’t even realize testosterone can improve well-being regardless of what gender a person identifies as.
Then why is it bad for some but not for others?
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03-05-2024, 06:35 AM
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No, I'm not thinking about you other than to say if you're really pinning gear and you look like you star in gay twink porn, you're doing it wrong. There's no excuse for not looking massive on gear.
I do not pin, i take a alcohol based gel liquid under the armpit dum dum, at 20 a month do you really think I’m taking it to get jacked?
Think McFly, think…& yea..you’s a ***git
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03-05-2024, 06:37 AM
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Then why is it bad for some but not for others?
Again, taking something when you are a fully developed adult is a bit different than a developing child that has permanent side effects..no?
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03-05-2024, 06:43 AM
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It makes men with low T feel better, yes. It isn't an antidepressant and it isn't as if jacking up your T when you already have enough T will make you feel better. Giving T to women beyond normal levels also doesn't make them feel better (excluding trans and intersex).

You assume I "didn't realize". These ridiculous bait and switch and strawman arguments are why I don't bother anymore.
Except it does make them feel better. Female bodybuilders or even more and more normal females who realize the importance of it and supplement it report improved wellbeing, mental clarity, better libido and orgasms. That’s when giving them dosages to put them at the higher end of the range and not some crazy supra-physiological doses(though yes some female bodybuilders do take those).


And you’re just pulling sh!t out of your ass saying high doses make trans people feel better but not normal people who identify as female. That is completely FALSE….which you don’t REALIZE.




Also, Lold at saying testosterone isn’t an antidepressant.
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03-05-2024, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted By GroriousReader
You identify as a masculine male with high T. Tell us your truth. Live your life, sister. Stunning and brave.
Who says I have high T?
Source..?

Now you think I look masculine as well..you’s on the gay too… ***git?

Just lol. No wonder you’re a virgin still. You’ve been doing it all wrong & just lying to yourself this entire time. All makes sense now.
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03-05-2024, 06:48 AM
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Again, taking something when you are a fully developed adult is a bit different than a developing child that has permanent side effects..no?
Why do you keep trying to pivot to children? Is the concern that trans kids are p3dophiles?
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03-05-2024, 06:49 AM
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I do not pin, i take a alcohol based gel liquid under the armpit dum dum, at 20 a month do you really think I’m taking it to get jacked?
Think McFly, think…& yea..you’s a ***git
It's hard to imagine much clinical benefit from that microdose.
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03-05-2024, 06:51 AM
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You missed the joke. The "your truth" part is the point.
No..it’s you that missed it. If you want to to be on hormone Thearpy as an adult, I may not agree with taking it in order to falsely change one’s “gender” …again…as an adult, but stay tf away from children..how bout we start there..?
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03-05-2024, 06:53 AM
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It's hard to imagine much clinical benefit from that microdose.
Thanks I don’t need anymore doc, I’m good.
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