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03-04-2024, 08:39 PM
#691
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
you think 10g/day is low?
Yes. Gel, oral, and injection are all different and have quite different typical dosages.
Really?
I'm at 20 a month
fuk outta here
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03-04-2024, 08:51 PM
#692
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
you think 10g/day is low?
Really?
I'm at 20 a month
Really?
I'm at 20 a month
That's the upper end of 1% gel dose (10mg test.). The lower end of the range would be 2.5mg test.
The guidelines clearly indicate target serum levels rather than giving everyone the maximum end of a range.
20mg a month is extremely low, but if it's working that's cool. Is it a non-pharma gel?
03-04-2024, 09:16 PM
#693
Originally Posted By GroriousReader⏩
hurr durr choping sentences is the best you can do. LOL. Dork
fuking lol
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03-04-2024, 09:18 PM
#694
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
2.5 lower, 20 on high end…so let's call it 10mg a day on average, I'm at 20 a month at 45 yrs old, and somehow you think 10mg a day to a child is not pumping them full of drugs?
That's the upper end of 1% gel dose (10mg test.). The lower end of the range would be 2.5mg test.
The guidelines clearly indicate target serum levels rather than giving everyone the maximum end of a range.
20mg a month is extremely low, but if it's working that's cool. Is it a non-pharma gel?
The guidelines clearly indicate target serum levels rather than giving everyone the maximum end of a range.
20mg a month is extremely low, but if it's working that's cool. Is it a non-pharma gel?
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03-04-2024, 09:19 PM
#695
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
PK is on gear and he looks like he stars in gay twink porn? You're doing it wrong, PK.
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Makes thread supporting homosexuals and trannies
Tell me your ghey without telling me your ghey..
Imagine thinking in your head about another dude and gay twink.
Just lol. You just outed yourself dum dum
Imagine thinking in your head about another dude and gay twink.
Just lol. You just outed yourself dum dum
Stalks tranny for three years
Sucks tranny cawk in Thailand
Watches tranny porn but claims not to be a homosexual
Gets bottomed out by trannies and strapons
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03-04-2024, 10:17 PM
#696
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Tell me your ghey without telling me your ghey..
Imagine thinking in your head about another dude and gay twink.
Just lol. You just outed yourself dum dum
Imagine thinking in your head about another dude and gay twink.
Just lol. You just outed yourself dum dum
No, I'm not thinking about you other than to say if you're really pinning gear and you look like you star in gay twink porn, you're doing it wrong. There's no excuse for not looking massive on gear.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
03-04-2024, 10:33 PM
#697
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
This one is for you.
"Testosterone 1% gel 2.5 – 10 g/day"
I use a gel too..is that different somehow as well??
I use a gel too..is that different somehow as well??
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Of course, it matters what sort of 'juicing' we're talking about here.
I knew plenty of guys back in the day who hopped on very short test-only cycle, or test + "The breakfast of champions", didn't take training too seriously, still drank and did drugs, didn't bother with PCT and still made some decent gains. Emerged OK at the other end, too, apart from some anger issues during cycle. Typical Chest & Bi's only weekend warrior douchebags.
Conversely, there's an IFBB style cycle which involves massive amounts of test, tren and then HGH and insulin and IGF-1 etc. Assuming you don't misdose your insulin and go into a coma off the bat, guys on this stuff are just asking for all sorts of issues down the road.
Me, personally, I've done clen. I bought vials of Test and Sus250 but could never muster up the balls to do a cycle with them, plus I didn't have the money for PCT at the time which could be courting disaster. Even with clen alone, I got jitters, ectopic beats and anxiety. It was pretty gnarly, but it did work.
I knew plenty of guys back in the day who hopped on very short test-only cycle, or test + "The breakfast of champions", didn't take training too seriously, still drank and did drugs, didn't bother with PCT and still made some decent gains. Emerged OK at the other end, too, apart from some anger issues during cycle. Typical Chest & Bi's only weekend warrior douchebags.
Conversely, there's an IFBB style cycle which involves massive amounts of test, tren and then HGH and insulin and IGF-1 etc. Assuming you don't misdose your insulin and go into a coma off the bat, guys on this stuff are just asking for all sorts of issues down the road.
Me, personally, I've done clen. I bought vials of Test and Sus250 but could never muster up the balls to do a cycle with them, plus I didn't have the money for PCT at the time which could be courting disaster. Even with clen alone, I got jitters, ectopic beats and anxiety. It was pretty gnarly, but it did work.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
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03-05-2024, 03:34 AM
#698
Just dropping in to lol at Bodhy calling what Paul does “hopping on gear” when he’s taking the lowest dose Ive ever heard of….and to lmao at him bashing someone else’s appearance(as usual) when he himself looks like a poster child for frogtech(which is even more funny now that I know he’s used clen in the past).
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03-05-2024, 04:28 AM
#699
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
No, 2.5mg lower, 10mg upper.
2.5 lower, 20 on high end…so let's call it 10mg a day on average, I'm at 20 a month at 45 yrs old, and somehow you think 10mg a day to a child is not pumping them full of drugs?
Who's referring to children?
03-05-2024, 04:33 AM
#700
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
He's an adult male, taking a small dose.
What are your thoughts on TRT?
Paul is lining big pharma's pockets, too
Paul is lining big pharma's pockets, too
Way to compare that to a female taking it, which will alter them forever.
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03-05-2024, 04:35 AM
#701
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Wait….. You think thst just because someone takes a small dose of TRT, that they're gonna become massive???
No, I'm not thinking about you other than to say if you're really pinning gear and you look like you star in gay twink porn, you're doing it wrong. There's no excuse for not looking massive on gear.
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03-05-2024, 04:43 AM
#702
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You seemed to be upset over giving pharma companies money.
He's an adult male, taking a small dose.
Way to compare that to a female taking it, which will alter them forever.
Way to compare that to a female taking it, which will alter them forever.
So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?
Seems a bit hypocritical.
03-05-2024, 04:46 AM
#703
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You seemed to be upset over giving pharma companies money.
So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?
Seems a bit hypocritical.
So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?
Seems a bit hypocritical.
you still here defending p3dos you creepwad?
03-05-2024, 04:52 AM
#704
I actually see that Paul is on TRT and not doing a full dosed cycle. My apologies to Paul for reading that out of context, 100% srs.
But really, take a bit more, so you don't look like the star of gay twink porn.
But really, take a bit more, so you don't look like the star of gay twink porn.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
03-05-2024, 04:54 AM
#705
Originally Posted By messomi⏩
Nope.
you still here defending p3dos you creepwad?
Never did to begin with
03-05-2024, 04:56 AM
#706
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
We disagree on just about everything, but repped for being able to admit when wrong(which we all are from time to time) and apologizing. Maybe next you can teach J.L.C. how to do that.
I actually see that Paul is on TRT and not doing a full dosed cycle. My apologies to Paul for reading that out of context, 100% srs.
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03-05-2024, 05:55 AM
#707
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
How do you know what people in gay porn look like?
I actually see that Paul is on TRT and not doing a full dosed cycle. My apologies to Paul for reading that out of context, 100% srs.
But really, take a bit more, so you don't look like the star of gay twink porn.
But really, take a bit more, so you don't look like the star of gay twink porn.
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03-05-2024, 05:58 AM
#708
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
So going to a clinic, as an adult, and getting on TRT, which will improve your life, is the same as a preteen getting on puberty blockers, which will permanently alter their body, brain, face, voice, etc.
You seemed to be upset over giving pharma companies money.
So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?
Seems a bit hypocritical.
So the issue isn't with someone taking test in general, it's just that you disagree with some people taking it?
Seems a bit hypocritical.
It's the same as getting someone hooked on anti-depressants, or ********, or pain killers.
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03-05-2024, 06:04 AM
#709
Originally Posted By GroriousReader⏩
For someone who supposedly has a firm grasp on modern medicine it seems odd that you didn’t even realize testosterone can improve well-being regardless of what gender a person identifies as.
Are you against psychiatric medications, Dave? Anything you want to share? Bad experiences? Hearing voices?
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03-05-2024, 06:18 AM
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03-05-2024, 06:20 AM
#711
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You understand TRT for adults is lifelong, right? Almost everyone would be prescribed more than 70mg a week that Paul is referring to as "pumped full of drugs".
So going to a clinic, as an adult, and getting on TRT, which will improve your life, is the same as a preteen getting on puberty blockers, which will permanently alter their body, brain, face, voice, etc.
It's the same as getting someone hooked on anti-depressants, or ********, or pain killers.
It's the same as getting someone hooked on anti-depressants, or ********, or pain killers.
Why do y'all keep trying to make it about kids?
Are trans children the p3dophiles with which you're concerned?
03-05-2024, 06:21 AM
#712
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Then why is it bad for some but not for others?
For someone who supposedly has a firm grasp on modern medicine it seems odd that you didn’t even realize testosterone can improve well-being regardless of what gender a person identifies as.
03-05-2024, 06:35 AM
#713
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I do not pin, i take a alcohol based gel liquid under the armpit dum dum, at 20 a month do you really think I’m taking it to get jacked?
No, I'm not thinking about you other than to say if you're really pinning gear and you look like you star in gay twink porn, you're doing it wrong. There's no excuse for not looking massive on gear.
Think McFly, think…& yea..you’s a ***git
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03-05-2024, 06:37 AM
#714
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Again, taking something when you are a fully developed adult is a bit different than a developing child that has permanent side effects..no?
Then why is it bad for some but not for others?
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03-05-2024, 06:43 AM
#715
Originally Posted By GroriousReader⏩
Except it does make them feel better. Female bodybuilders or even more and more normal females who realize the importance of it and supplement it report improved wellbeing, mental clarity, better libido and orgasms. That’s when giving them dosages to put them at the higher end of the range and not some crazy supra-physiological doses(though yes some female bodybuilders do take those).
It makes men with low T feel better, yes. It isn't an antidepressant and it isn't as if jacking up your T when you already have enough T will make you feel better. Giving T to women beyond normal levels also doesn't make them feel better (excluding trans and intersex).
You assume I "didn't realize". These ridiculous bait and switch and strawman arguments are why I don't bother anymore.
You assume I "didn't realize". These ridiculous bait and switch and strawman arguments are why I don't bother anymore.
And you’re just pulling sh!t out of your ass saying high doses make trans people feel better but not normal people who identify as female. That is completely FALSE….which you don’t REALIZE.
Also, Lold at saying testosterone isn’t an antidepressant.
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03-05-2024, 06:46 AM
#716
Originally Posted By GroriousReader⏩
Who says I have high T?
You identify as a masculine male with high T. Tell us your truth. Live your life, sister. Stunning and brave.
Source..?
Now you think I look masculine as well..you’s on the gay too… ***git?
Just lol. No wonder you’re a virgin still. You’ve been doing it all wrong & just lying to yourself this entire time. All makes sense now.
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03-05-2024, 06:48 AM
#717
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Why do you keep trying to pivot to children? Is the concern that trans kids are p3dophiles?
Again, taking something when you are a fully developed adult is a bit different than a developing child that has permanent side effects..no?
03-05-2024, 06:49 AM
#718
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
It's hard to imagine much clinical benefit from that microdose.
I do not pin, i take a alcohol based gel liquid under the armpit dum dum, at 20 a month do you really think I’m taking it to get jacked?
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03-05-2024, 06:51 AM
#719
Originally Posted By GroriousReader⏩
No..it’s you that missed it. If you want to to be on hormone Thearpy as an adult, I may not agree with taking it in order to falsely change one’s “gender” …again…as an adult, but stay tf away from children..how bout we start there..?
You missed the joke. The "your truth" part is the point.
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03-05-2024, 06:53 AM
#720
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Thanks I don’t need anymore doc, I’m good.
It's hard to imagine much clinical benefit from that microdose.
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