Total overreaction my man.

Don't forget when Kap finally started he was 25 years old. Trey just turned 21 in May of this year. Kap was also in his 2nd season which means he got to sit a full season behind Alex Smith and learn the offense. This is basically what Shanahan is trying to do with him this year for the most part. All that with the fact that Kap had almost 1000 more attempts than Trey Lance did in college.

Simply put Trey is in rare level territory in terms of youth and inexperience. It's why IMO him getting playing time is critical in his development.

Shanahan is still thinking we can make the playoffs (and maybe we can) but the way we're playing now isn't promising. I think long term it's better for Trey's development to get him these reps now so we're a better team next year.

Blowing it all up is a complete overreaction and that would be a terrible move. Something needs to change but if Josh Allen who is the prospect most closely described for Lance comps said the thing that helped him the most is continuity with the coaches.

Yes not having our first round picks as a fallback for a **** season sucks but it's all about Trey. If he turns into a stud nobody will care.

Most of you guys know I love the draft so come round 1 I'm gonna be sad we don't have our pick regardless of when it is but one of the worst decisions this franchise has made also led to one of its best decisions as consequence.

49ers traded their second- and third-round picks in 1978, first- and fourth-round picks in 1979, and a 1980 second-round to acquire an aging OJ Simpson.

The first round pick in 79 ended up being #1 overall. Had the 49ers not traded that pick away it's very likely Bill Walsh selects Phil Simms #1 overall because that was the QB he preferred in that draft. We didn't have that pick of course and went on to select some guy named Joe Montana in the 3rd round.

Now nobody gives a fuk that we gave away all those picks for OJ who played like **** for us and retired after 1979.

So if Trey develops, nobody will care what we gave away even though it will suck come draft day next 2 drafts.

total overreaction. You can't have a consistent team in the NFL until you have a good QB, and we haven't had that; none of this is surprising. Look at Seattle without Wilson, New England without Brady, and the Rams now that they have Stafford. Nothing else matters except for Lance's development now.

If you try to build a great team around a subpar QB, you may get to the promised land a couple times, but it's almost impossible to be consistent…especially considering how often players get injured these days. Calm down.

We are 2-4, all these reactions are valid and there’s no reason to calm down when we have traded away our future and have nothing to show for it

I dont get why you say we have nothing to show for it? That move was for the future, hence why they kept Jimmy G. Its a huge move that Kyle's legacy will be tied to but its not a move that we were going to reap the benefits of this year. We won't know if this move worked out until 3-4 years down the road.

Just like 2017 when we thought that draft class was awesome bc some of the rookies were contributing immediately. Fast forward to today and that draft class wasnt all that. Point being dont judge a draft class until a few years down the road.

Sorry I should have said we traded away our future and we may or may not have something to show for it. Who knows how well Lance plays out. He didn't look good vs the Cards. We could have grabbed Mac Jones who is looking like a stud at this point and saved the draft capital. We also moved up for Sermon and we aren't even using him

Everything about the team screams dumpster fire right now. We can only play this "Trust Kyle" game for so long

He looked like a raw 21 year old rookie QB who had 313 pass attempts in college. Your expectations need to be proper so you don't lose your mind.

He missed some throws, he missed some reads, he made some big throws, he made some big runs. He wasn't the only one out there though. Guys missed blocks, guys dropped passes.

Overall the offense actually moved the ball much better than we have most of this season with Jimmy at QB and that was without Kittle out there.


The Mac Jones lovefest needs a wakeup call. He's doing what was expected of him. He's a 4 year player from Bama which is basically a farm system for Belichick. Everyone knew he was going to be a solid QB who was highly accurate and had a good grasp of the mental side of QBing.

Him playing well isn't a shock but while I haven't watched as many of the Pats games fully as I used to cuz of my daughter I've watched enough to see it's not all rainbows and puppies with Jones.

The whole reason of moving on from Jimmy G is because you want someone who can give you more. Mac Jones is playing well but so was Jimmy in 2017. Things change. Lance was drafted because of where he will be 2-3 years from now and beyond. Mac dropped to 15 for a reason and it's because his ceiling is limited.

Another difference from Jones and Lance is Mac is getting all the starter reps. Mac has been getting them for a while now. That's something Lance only had going into the Arizona week and Kyle ran a different offense that he's ran with Jimmy which is not wise.

As for giving up our future, come on dude. It's 2 first round picks and a 3rd rounder we got for Saleh going to the Jets(aka a pick we didn't have before that happened)

Sure I wish we still had those picks but you still have other picks to make things happen. If Trey turns into a legit QB for us you can just reason that we would've given away a chance at a Solomon Thomas or Rashaun Woods.

Outside of the Bosa/Deebo draft you can make a strong case that our later picks have been much better than our 1st rounders(I sure as **** hope that changes with Trey and moving forward)


Long story short - if Trey Lance develops into a stud we're fine.

JimmyG (when playing well) is about the ceiling for Mac Jones. That's a good comparison.

And I agree–when picking a QB as high as you did Lance–he has to have a higher ceiling than that.

They are mentioning Jimmy G here in DC as a potential long term QB option.

That would possibly be a decent fit. They can then draft his replacement and give time for the youngin to learn while Jimmy G starts. Them and the Panthers are probably in the same boat as i dont think Darnold is the answer.

Honestly if we can trade Jimmy for anything at this point it would be a win. I was hoping we'd see the best Jimmy G since 2017 this season with Trey pushing him and the talent(i thought we had) and he would bump his trade value up for us but it looks like that ship has sailed.

If we trade him it will be a day 3 pick for sure. Most likely we just ride it out with Jimmy/Trey this year and then either cut Jimmy or trade him if someone comes along.

All of this going on makes me sad/mad. I am hoping we do some type trade before the deadline. That would at least show the the team is trying to improve…


I like Jimmy but he clearly was never able to recover from his injuries. I am hoping Kyle (as smart as he is supposed to be) can make some changes in the offense and at least make it fun to watch. I do not care if we lose the rest of the season at this point. I think it is time for Lance. I just want to see some exciting games right now.

I love me some Kittle and while the Oline isn't preforming well he clearly makes the offense better. Sucks that he seems to have the injury bug too… Hoping he comes back and gives the offense that spark it needs.

After this season I hope the team makes some moves with the money that will be left when they get ride of Jimmy. Not sure if any type of trade will happen but that would be nice too.

Also watching the GB and Arizona game last night did make me feel better that we were so close in those games. We were in both of those games but had to many mistakes. I still think it is to late to see this team rally for the rest of the season but they may not be as bad as we think.

I am loyal and will keep watching but there comes a point where i may do other things if they keep this up.
With so many game summary apps and websites that 1pm game doesn't have to ruin the days plans.

What kills me is they've been in every game and its just self inflicted wounds at this point which some say is a sign of a bad team. I dont know if i agree with that bc to me a few things just need to be cleaned up mainly the PI calls on those deep balls.

I'm still holding out hope for this season and if we can string together a few wins in a row we are right back in the thick of things.

What kills me is they've been in every game and its just self inflicted wounds at this point which some say is a sign of a bad team. I dont know if i agree with that bc to me a few things just need to be cleaned up mainly the PI calls on those deep balls.

I'm still holding out hope for this season and if we can string together a few wins in a row we are right back in the thick of things.[/QUOTE
It seems like every 3rd down josh norman gets beat and has to hold

Yeah at this point it would just be nice to have some watchable games. Our offense looks so bad right now outside of week 1

It wasn't Kyle who didn't want Mac Jones. The fanbase started calling the front office racist and wanted a black Qb. In a place like the bay area, if you have business, you pretty much have to cave to that stuff.

Sounds insane, but those are the times we live in. The fanbase has no one to blame except themselves if Mac Jones becomes great QB.

Absolutely sickening. This is why the bay is a fukking cesspool

So we get the Bears at 1pm and fox is promoting the game during world series coverage. Will you be watching today?

Solid turn around but damn these penalties. Horrifying that we average 88 yards in penalties per game…

This one was at least a fun one to watch but I’m not getting excited about beating fields and the bears. Still 3-4

covered the -4

We got the W but honestly Jimmy looked like **** on a lot of those throws. Receivers bailing him out with over & under throws for half the game. This is also with a non existent pass rush. Jimmy literally looked good for 15 minutes of that game. Thank god we had a running game this game.

I was more impressed by Justin Fields. He's still raw as hell but with proper development, he might be the first OSU QB to do well in the NFL long term if his legs hold up behind that OL.

I thought Jimmy looked good honestly. WRs dropped some balls in the first half too that hit them square in the hands.

Fields is going to be good. Like every other young QB he just needs time and that oline they have is crap.

This is crazy logic for the following reasons:
1 - We gave up too much to move to #3. This was a bad trade. –> Worse future
2 - We mortgaged future value for the present. There is a high premium to do this –> worse future
3 - The team can make moves like signing Trent Williams due to awesome contracts. In 3-4 years, a lot of high-value assets we have will be less value –> worse future

Based on the draft capital, I think he has to reach a pro-bowl to all-pro level to make it worthwhile. The odds of this are roughly 18% based on a QB draft analysis I saw. This is an exceptionally bad bet for the future.

Sources: The #Texans are trading young pass-rusher Charles Omenihu to the #49ers in exchange for a future late-rounder. The former fifth rounder, who has been an intriguing trade name for weeks, has a new landing spot.


Well at least it is something….

This is the dumbest **** ever. Nobody talks Kyle Shanahan out of who he wants.

You seriously think Shanahan was good with us trading 3 first round picks and a 3rd rounder to move up to get Mac Jones!? And then allowed the fanbase to talk him into someone like Lance?

Time and time again Shanahan has proven that what he wants goes.

Joe Williams was off the draft board and we drafted him cuz Kyle basically said - I want him.

If he wanted Mac Jones he’d be a 49er right now.

Did we watch the same game? This was Jimmy’s best game in a while. Even the screen play to Deebo was a big time throw because he had to get it around the edge rusher in the throwing lane. He’s ****ed those up many times before. If he can play like this moving forward we can actually get back to winning games with him.

I just don’t trust him to do this again vs better defenses but I’d love to be proven wrong.

either way terrible move.

Says who?