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06-05-2021, 07:54 PM
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06-05-2021, 09:26 PM
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Been looking at some watches recently and got drawn to Zenith.

I'll say I'm not really a watch guy but I have a passing knowledge of it from my friends and I have been to watch clubs, have a Hodinkee book on watches because I admire the engineering, craftsmanship, and aesthetics of a well designed watch. It may be because I appreciate menswear and personal style.

While I own an Omega Seamaster and a Tag Heuer that are both my dad's I wanted something eventually that matches my personality.

I wanted an Omega Speedmaster for the longest but having small wrists at 6.5" I need something between 38 - 42mm.

Then I saw the Zeniths. What does everyone think?





Does this one look too similar to the Rolex Daytona?



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06-06-2021, 01:13 AM
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Das fuking it mane. Enjoy!
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06-06-2021, 04:29 AM
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Thanks guys, on spread with most of you


Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Been looking at some watches recently and got drawn to Zenith.


I wanted an Omega Speedmaster for the longest but having small wrists at 6.5" I need something between 38 - 42mm.

Brah, you kinda sound like a watch guy ha

Speedys definitely wear smaller…they even have reduced version which is 38.5mm.

That being said, I love the Zenith play on exclusivity alone. At least in my experience they're not a common watch. Also the dial on the Zenith is more attractive.
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06-06-2021, 04:34 AM
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huh. is this the grey dial? must be the lighting, I thought that it had a darker face. biuriful nonetheless
Some pics I've seen do show the dial to be a bit darker, but yeah I believe it's just lighting…to my knowledge Omega doesn't/didn't make a darker grey version.

I'll say if definitely looked better irl than it does on the Omega site. Same with the white dial version.
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06-06-2021, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted By ChknFrydMFer⏩
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OP confirmed not a *******.

That watch looks so good in person. And the butterfly clasp. hnnnng

Originally Posted By sword_⏩
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I wanted an Omega Speedmaster for the longest but having small wrists at 6.5" I need something between 38 - 42mm.

Then I saw the Zeniths. What does everyone think?
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Go try a speedy on. I have just shy of a 7" wrist and was shocked how "small" it wore.



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06-06-2021, 07:03 AM
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I've tried on the Speedy Reduced but I'm not interested in it.
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06-06-2021, 07:33 AM
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I've tried on the Speedy Reduced but I'm not interested in it.
How about the "full size" ?

The reduced just seemed oddly proportioned to me. Had a daytona on the wrist a few times, and it basically felt/looked the same as my speedy.
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06-06-2021, 08:10 AM
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Nice, congrats.

Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Been looking at some watches recently and got drawn to Zenith.

I'll say I'm not really a watch guy but I have a passing knowledge of it from my friends and I have been to watch clubs, have a Hodinkee book on watches because I admire the engineering, craftsmanship, and aesthetics of a well designed watch. It may be because I appreciate menswear and personal style.

While I own an Omega Seamaster and a Tag Heuer that are both my dad's I wanted something eventually that matches my personality.

I wanted an Omega Speedmaster for the longest but having small wrists at 6.5" I need something between 38 - 42mm.

Then I saw the Zeniths. What does everyone think?





Does this one look too similar to the Rolex Daytona?




Yes, it looks way too much like the Daytona, which is ironic since Zenith used to make the movement for the Daytona a couple decades ago. Good watches though and the El Primero is legendary.
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06-06-2021, 09:05 AM
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That definitely looks daytonaish. There are some beautiful defy extremes and defy el primero 21s, but I think they're all too big.



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06-06-2021, 02:57 PM
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Spotted Dirk Nowitzki at the Mavericks/Clippers game 7 styling on them with the blue sky-dweller.

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That definitely looks daytonaish. There are some beautiful defy extremes and defy el primero 21s, but I think they're all too big.]
I like zeniths but i hate that my brain essentially puts them in the same bucket as Oris. Even knowing all the history around the el primero. They just have dogschit branding/marketing. Even the "star rotors" on the movements look asinine. Could never own one myself.
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06-06-2021, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Been looking at some watches recently and got drawn to Zenith.

I'll say I'm not really a watch guy but I have a passing knowledge of it from my friends and I have been to watch clubs, have a Hodinkee book on watches because I admire the engineering, craftsmanship, and aesthetics of a well designed watch. It may be because I appreciate menswear and personal style.

While I own an Omega Seamaster and a Tag Heuer that are both my dad's I wanted something eventually that matches my personality.

I wanted an Omega Speedmaster for the longest but having small wrists at 6.5" I need something between 38 - 42mm.

Then I saw the Zeniths. What does everyone think?





Does this one look too similar to the Rolex Daytona?



The zenith and the daytona are intentionally similar. Its a beautiful watch but be careful of the possibility remorse if it starts to remind you that you originally wanted a daytona.

For this reason I like the Omega Speedmaster 9900 panda and the Tudor Black Chrono panda. But the speedy is a little big, so id get the Tudor. Also the Tudor is slightly cheaper.



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06-06-2021, 06:42 PM
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Also the Tudor is slightly cheaper.
Price may increase…these are on a wait list already at places
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06-06-2021, 07:24 PM
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the zenith chronomaster sport is a beautiful watch but just lol at it's $10k msrp. Would rather buy a rolex at that price
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06-07-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By waisoserious⏩
The zenith and the daytona are intentionally similar. Its a beautiful watch but be careful of the possibility remorse if it starts to remind you that you originally wanted a daytona.

For this reason I like the Omega Speedmaster 9900 panda and the Tudor Black Chrono panda. But the speedy is a little big, so id get the Tudor. Also the Tudor is slightly cheaper.]
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the zenith chronomaster sport is a beautiful watch but just lol at it's $10k msrp. Would rather buy a rolex at that price

Can confirm Tudor Chrono is an awesome high quality piece. Even more so if it's in a rotation and you don't have to rely on it to be dressy. The 10k price on the zenith is pretty egregious when you realize you can get a tudor chronograph AND a JLC Reverso for around 12k.

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06-07-2021, 02:57 PM
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the zenith chronomaster sport is a beautiful watch but just lol at it's $10k msrp. Would rather buy a rolex at that price
Crazy prices now for sure.
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06-07-2021, 07:41 PM
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Was texting with my AD today and he told me to ask for bigger pieces because he thinks he can get me allocation.

Let’s see if I can get a rainbow Daytona.
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06-07-2021, 09:48 PM
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Was texting with my AD today and he told me to ask for bigger pieces because he thinks he can get me allocation.

Let’s see if I can get a rainbow Daytona.

I'd buy that chit even if there wasn't a markup. Didn't care much fore the last two, but the RG is hnnnnnnnnnnnng on another level. My AD chuckled when I asked about it.
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06-08-2021, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted By homers54321⏩
the zenith chronomaster sport is a beautiful watch but just lol at it's $10k msrp. Would rather buy a rolex at that price
I get you but hard to say. Market price for the zenith after discount is probably closer to $9500 and the Rolex you could be able to "obtain" for 9k-10k is not going to even be a no date sub.
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06-08-2021, 09:03 AM
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Rosegold sundust looks like a watch a CEO would wear lol, prob because of the two tone. I have it and enjoy it.. but also have the blue datejust. Thinking to sell the rosegold so I can pick up a submariner + aqua terra, need that there variety in my collection. But, I may wait it out and just buy those two and keep the rosegold. No rush now.
It's funny, the Tudor Chronograph I had never even seen pics of or thought about until the AD brought out the back room and I couldn't be happier with it.

On the flipside, i'm actually starting to have buyer's remorse for the blue DJ41. I was certain as soon as I had it, I would sell the sundust and be happy. While I do really love the blue dial, the all silver jubilee and and fluted bezel… it just doesn't hit the same as the wrist presence of the TT Rose Gold.

It wouldn't be that big of a deal if I could swap the blue dial for a BLNR but there's about a 5k difference between the two (grey market pricing). Feeling hella salty right now.

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Was texting with my AD today and he told me to ask for bigger pieces because he thinks he can get me allocation.

Let’s see if I can get a rainbow Daytona.

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I'd buy that chit even if there wasn't a markup. Didn't care much fore the last two, but the RG is hnnnnnnnnnnnng on another level. My AD chuckled when I asked about it.
Would LOVE to see how that turns out. I also agree i wasn't a fan of the rainbow rolex releases BUT on their everose… I swear they can do no wrong with their everose releases and I think people are slowly realizing this.
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06-08-2021, 09:18 AM
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^^that's kind of the idea with the blue DJ right? To be a more understated version of the DJ. That's why I got it atleast, that and I need an all steel single tone watch in my rotation
It's 100% more timeless and classic than the everose sure, but the everose is just way more pleasing to look at for me. I guess what i'm saying is that i'd rather have the BLNR over the blue datejust for an all steel piece. Eventhough the BLNR would definitely cramp on the Tudor's wrist time.
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It's funny, the Tudor Chronograph I had never even seen pics of or thought about until the AD brought out the back room and I couldn't be happier with it.

On the flipside, i'm actually starting to have buyer's remorse for the blue DJ41. I was certain as soon as I had it, I would sell the sundust and be happy. While I do really love the blue dial, the all silver jubilee and and fluted bezel… it just doesn't hit the same as the wrist presence of the TT Rose Gold.

It wouldn't be that big of a deal if I could swap the blue dial for a BLNR but there's about a 5k difference between the two (grey market pricing). Feeling hella salty right now.






Would LOVE to see how that turns out. I also agree i wasn't a fan of the rainbow rolex releases BUT on their everose… I swear they can do no wrong with their everose releases and I think people are slowly realizing this.

He showed me the email chain from corporate. They shot it down for the rainbow.

On a positive note, my Patek AD said he got me allocation for a 5167r.
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06-11-2021, 05:47 AM
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He showed me the email chain from corporate. They shot it down for the rainbow.

On a positive note, my Patek AD said he got me allocation for a 5167r.
Last time I was buying at my AD, the store manager was talking about her experience when "the" rainbow rolex came in and she opened the box. It was definitely sounding like they get 1 every year if not every other year.

Judging by the people i've seen in photos wearing the piece, and by how the store manager was talking about it… it seems like you pretty much have to be a high spending best friend of the owner of the AD you shop at, or someone of Cristiano Ronaldo/Naomi Osaka type fame.



On another note, I think i'm back to pursuing the BLNR. I'm going to get rid of the blue dial datejust. Now the only decision I need to make is if I want to pursue oyster bracelet or jubilee.
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Last time I was buying at my AD, the store manager was talking about her experience when "the" rainbow rolex came in and she opened the box. It was definitely sounding like they get 1 every year if not every other year.

Judging by the people i've seen in photos wearing the piece, and by how the store manager was talking about it… it seems like you pretty much have to be a high spending best friend of the owner of the AD you shop at, or someone of Cristiano Ronaldo/Naomi Osaka type fame.



On another note, I think i'm back to pursuing the BLNR. I'm going to get rid of the blue dial datejust. Now the only decision I need to make is if I want to pursue oyster bracelet or jubilee.

Knowing the owner isn’t enough. They have to get corporate approval.
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two questions (first one is most likely dumb)

1) does the rainbow daytona have anything to do with LGBTQ.

2) what do you do to afford a watch like that ($100k msrp?)
1. Not that I know of
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He showed me the email chain from corporate. They shot it down for the rainbow.

On a positive note, my Patek AD said he got me allocation for a 5167r.
Youre not offended by that at all?
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Youre not offended by that at all?
Not at all. I know there are people with bigger spend history than me. This is a watch that retails for 96 and is selling for 350k. It should be hard to get.
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1. Not that I know of
2. I’m a CPA handling tax work. I also invest in a lot of businesses.
What do you think about this ProPublica report + media response to these tax leaks @ the ultra wealthy and tax avoidance strategies
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What do you think about this ProPublica report + media response to these tax leaks @ the ultra wealthy and tax avoidance strategies
Nothing i didn’t know. I remember earlier in my career, when I was making a 75k salary, i was preparing a tax return for a hedge fund manager. He had brought in 10s of millions, but due to certain deferrals that existed, he paid less tax than I did. That was the first time I saw it and realized how disadvantaged w2 workers are.

Also propublica report is very misleading. Tax is not supposed to be on net worth. If everyone had to pay tax on net worth increases, there would be an annual sell of of appreciated assets just to be able to pay the tax.
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Nothing i didn’t know. I remember earlier in my career, when I was making a 75k salary, i was preparing a tax return for a hedge fund manager. He had brought in 10s of millions, but due to certain deferrals that existed, he paid less tax than I did. That was the first time I saw it and realized how disadvantaged w2 workers are.
Funny thing is seeing everyone foam at the mouth at that hedge fund manager instead of the politician who set up the ground rules.
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