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post 1453876403 07-21-2016, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By TremblingEagle
maybe at some point in the distant past
but since WWII the executive branch has been accumulating more and more powers

the ability to start "police actions" aka wars
imprison people indefinitely without trial was stepped up under Bush2 and Obama has continued it
targeted assassinations (drone strikes) again stepped up under Bush continued under Obama

I would say the ability to order military action, carry out arrests and detention and kill with little to no oversight from the legislative or judicial branch is plenty enuff power to wreck some schit in the wrong hands
Hillary is the wrong hands.
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Originally Posted By Twon91
People need to realize there is another option other than these two,

Libertarian Gary Johnson

And it's the perfect year to fix this terrible "2 Party" system that's been holding us back.
So make it a 3 party system or what?

Stfu and vote Trump you cuck.
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Originally Posted By TommyTuffGuy
he has a 0% chance of winning this.
The odds of Brexit were 5x 'worse' than the odds of Trump getting in... Looked what happened there. I was certain Brexit wouldn't happen... I was wrong. People are certain Trump won't get in, perhaps they will be wrong. Just do your thing and vote. He could lose in a land slide, but to confidently say he has a '0% chance of winning' is obscene.
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I'm worried but for a different reason.

I'm afraid that he will be assassinated and the USA will deteriorate into a state of anarchy. There's thousands of hood rats ready to riot and act like annoying *******s once they feel like it would be socially acceptable (like in Trump rallies).


- Unstable government, fear
- businesses become conservative
- economy goes to chit
- layoffs
- I lose my CEO 10k/day job or take a huge pay cut
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Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Just lol@ elected a reality TV Star.

Not happening Jose!
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Would you rather take a small risk of dying in a ball of fire? Or guaranteed to be cucked to death like a german voting for merkel?
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These are retarded worries, if Trump was such hothead who made irrational decisions, you would've heard about it by now.

The dude has 40+ years of experience of private sector experience and the worst thing they can find about him is "oh he said some sexist (true) things about women 20 years ago."

Besides, Hillary has already proven to be a neocon, the rest of the conservatives weren't exactly war shy (apart from Rand) and seeing how bad Obama and Bush have been, there is a reminder of just how bad two presidents from two different parties can be.
Originally Posted By AhDo
I'm worried but for a different reason.

I'm afraid that he will be assassinated and the USA will deteriorate into a state of anarchy. There's thousands of hood rats ready to riot and act like annoying *******s once they feel like it would be socially acceptable (like in Trump rallies).


- Unstable government, fear
- businesses become conservative
- economy goes to chit
- layoffs
- I lose my CEO 10k/day job or take a huge pay cut
Another scenario that would never happen.

IF things descended into chaos, guess who the army and police would side with? Guess what those militias and weekend warriors that have been preparing for this moment for their entire life would do?

It would be a purge of epic proportions, except the major losses would be on the gutter side.
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The most dangerous part about Trump is his lack of knowledge about, well, most things. He doesn't know anything about economics, about politics, about what it takes to run a country. Hell, he's had trouble running his own businesses.

It's a shame that the American citizen is put into this predicament.

If you vote for Trump, you are going to get laughed out of conversations 5 years from now if you admit it.
If you vote for Hillary, you are supporting private sector takeover.

I can't tell you who you should vote for but I just don't understand how people don't see him as a racist, fascist, egotistical maniac who lies and makes up stuff, blatantly. And now he's saying how he won't uphold the NATO agreement. Jesus tapdancing Christ. You guys are in for a ride.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
Trump has said explicitly he doesn't like listening to experts, because he believes his instincts are better. We may end up in a full scale war on our own soil. Or a trade war that crushes be economy.

Hillary is liberal, a liar, a narcissist and a crook.

Trump is all of those, plus inexpeienced and unqualified.

We have great choices.
Here you are presenting trumps lack of reliance on experts as a weakness when you yourself believe the moon landing was staged, China doesn't exist and the earth is flat

Fuk you are a *******
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I honestly don't know who to vote for at this point. Lesser of two evils and all that I guess.
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Originally Posted By sif
The most dangerous part about Trump is his lack of knowledge about, well, most things. He doesn't know anything about economics, about politics, about what it takes to run a country. Hell, he's had trouble running his own businesses.

It's a shame that the American citizen is put into this predicament.

If you vote for Trump, you are going to get laughed out of conversations 5 years from now if you admit it.
If you vote for Hillary, you are supporting private sector takeover.

I can't tell you who you should vote for but I just don't understand how people don't see him as a racist, fascist, egotistical maniac who lies and makes up stuff, blatantly. And now he's saying how he won't uphold the NATO agreement. Jesus tapdancing Christ. You guys are in for a ride.
He understands enough, you act as though a lifetime of parasitism (like Hillary or any lifetime politician) somehow grants you some sort of secret knowledge of running the world, protip: most decisions are binary, it doesn't take a genius to figure out problems and how to address, it does take political and individual will though

Yeah mad troubles 6 bankruptcies out of:



" racist, fascist, egotistical maniac"

Miring insight Mr. Oliver, he's so Drumpf.

And yeah America should continue being cucked to pathetic Eurocuck countries taking in third world hajis by the millions instead of paying for their defense because we know Russia whose economy is in shambles is just dying to invade Eurabia.
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Originally Posted By sif
I can't tell you who you should vote for but I just don't understand how people don't see him as a racist, fascist, egotistical maniac who lies and makes up stuff, blatantly. And now he's saying how he won't uphold the NATO agreement. Jesus tapdancing Christ. You guys are in for a ride.
It's not that they don't see it...they want that.

At this point I hope they get it
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Originally Posted By TremblingEagle
It's not that they don't see it...they want that.

At this point I hope they get it
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"White genocide"

Really makes you think though!
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Originally Posted By NVious
He understands enough, you act as though a lifetime of parasitism (like Hillary or any lifetime politician) somehow grants you some sort of secret knowledge of running the world, protip: most decisions are binary, it doesn't take a genius to figure out problems and how to address, it does take political and individual will though

Yeah mad troubles 6 bankruptcies out of:



" racist, fascist, egotistical maniac"

Miring insight Mr. Oliver, he's so Drumpf.

And yeah America should continue being cucked to pathetic Eurocuck countries taking in third world hajis by the millions instead of paying for their defense because we know Russia whose economy is in shambles is just dying to invade Eurabia.
Trump's failed businesses include an airline and a university. Those are no small failures. For someone who should have known how to identify a profitable venture and create wealth, he has failed too many times. Why is he still so successful? Well, it's easy when you come from money and have money to back you up. Those types of failures are not the type of failures that I would admire in a candidate who wants to run a country, and by default, spend my tax dollars. Again, not American, but it's pretty logical to me. I'm not going to go to an accountant (who doesn't have a great track record) and ask him to cater my wedding for me. A) Because he's a ****ing accountant and not a chef and B) he hasn't done a quality job at being an accountant either, so I wouldn't expect him to know how to run a catering business anyway.

The thing is, I don't watch cable ( and don't have it because **** that) so I'm not too familiar with the Oliver thing. I assume that he made fun of Trump? Doesn't matter, irrelevant.

I'm more interested in why you think that the Nato Agreement is not important? There are countries that are working towards their military spending budget and others who simply can't afford it. Does that mean that another country, who is well equipped and has signed an agreement, should stand back and let people die? Is that an American way of thought? "We COULD help, but we won't, because it's not our problem.".

If so, when does it become your problem? When oil is at risk?

It's simple - the alliance is there to ensure that a world war doesn't happen. Pulling out of that is basically telling Russia that they have nothing to worry about and to go ahead and invade Ukraine etc.
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Originally Posted By sif
Trump's failed businesses include an airline and a university. Those are no small failures. For someone who should have known how to identify a profitable venture and create wealth, he has failed too many times. Why is he still so successful? Well, it's easy when you come from money and have money to back you up. Those types of failures are not the type of failures that I would admire in a candidate who wants to run a country, and by default, spend my tax dollars. Again, not American, but it's pretty logical to me. I'm not going to go to an accountant (who doesn't have a great track record) and ask him to cater my wedding for me. A) Because he's a ****ing accountant and not a chef and B) he hasn't done a quality job at being an accountant either, so I wouldn't expect him to know how to run a catering business anyway.

The thing is, I don't watch cable ( and don't have it because **** that) so I'm not too familiar with the Oliver thing. I assume that he made fun of Trump? Doesn't matter, irrelevant.

I'm more interested in why you think that the Nato Agreement is not important? There are countries that are working towards their military spending budget and others who simply can't afford it. Does that mean that another country, who is well equipped and has signed an agreement, should stand back and let people die? Is that an American way of thought? "We COULD help, but we won't, because it's not our problem.".

If so, when does it become your problem? When oil is at risk?

It's simple - the alliance is there to ensure that a world war doesn't happen. Pulling out of that is basically telling Russia that they have nothing to worry about and to go ahead and invade Ukraine etc.
Compared to who? The parasitical politicians who have never created anything of value? Try again.

Yeah it's awful he came from a successful family.

They need to stop spending so much money on third world invaders (rapefugees) and start spending more on their military. Who's dying? Spare me your melodramatic virtue signaling.

The bigger risk is the ticking time bomb of low IQ Islamists that have poured into European countries, all these countries are far too cucked to ever go to war with one another, they can't even stop their women from getting raped.
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Originally Posted By NVious
Compared to who? The parasitical politicians who have never created anything of value? Try again.

Yeah it's awful he came from a successful family.

They need to stop spending so much money on third world invaders (rapefugees) and start spending more on their military. Who's dying? Spare me your melodramatic virtue signaling.

The bigger risk is the ticking time bomb of low IQ Islamists that have poured into European countries, all these countries are far too cucked to ever go to war with one another, they can't even stop their women from getting raped.
So, you haven't addressed any of my questions and have pretty much ignored my points. You're deflecting and trying to insult me without any reason other than I have a different opinion.

Until you can have an adult conversation and represent your opinions in a coherent way, this discussion is over.
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Originally Posted By sif
So, you haven't addressed any of my questions and have pretty much ignored my points. You're deflecting and trying to insult me without any reason other than I have a different opinion.

Until you can have an adult conversation and represent your opinions in a coherent way, this discussion is over.
You're asking vague questions, the countries in NATO need to start paying their fair share and stop mooching off of America. What is the fair share? Whatever America decides, the weak should fear the strong.

This is coming from the 30 year old woman who wants to commit genocide against Trump supporters by burning them alive, get the **** outta hear with your estrogenic bull****.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
I think the only reason people are voting for him is because he's the only one calling out the truth, and not being politically correct. And also because the other candidates were atrocious.

Fcuk, I feel like both candidates are terrible choices tbh. I'd still prefer him over Hilary, but I'm concerned about the complete lack of nuance in his opinions, along with the extreme levels of narcissism. Would he actually listen to advice or ever change his mind? Seriously, would you feel comfortable with him having the power to use nuclear codes?

The thing that makes me less worried is that fact he probably wouldn't have the power alone to call a nuclear strike, or to invoke something as extreme as he sometimes suggests.
OP is worried about NUANCE? What the hell does that mean? I don't want a president that changes his mind all the time. I want a STRONG LEADER. I don't want NUANCE.

Nuclear codes? What is this, the 80's? I grew up during the 80's. Everyone was going crazy about Reagan blowing up the world. Well, did it happen?
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Originally Posted By porcupinetree
OP is worried about NUANCE? What the hell does that mean? I don't want a president that changes his mind all the time. I want a STRONG LEADER. I don't want NUANCE.

Nuclear codes? What is this, the 80's? I grew up during the 80's. Everyone was going crazy about Reagan blowing up the world. Well, did it happen?
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Originally Posted By NVious
You're asking vague questions, the countries in NATO need to start paying their fair share and stop mooching off of America. What is the fair share? Whatever America decides, the weak should fear the strong.

This is coming from the 30 year old woman who wants to commit genocide against Trump supporters by burning them alive, get the **** outta hear with your estrogenic bull****.
You think that these are vague? I can't be any more direct than this.

I'm more interested in why you think that the Nato Agreement is not important?
There are countries that are working towards their military spending budget and others who simply can't afford it. Does that mean that another country, who is well equipped and has signed an agreement, should stand back and let people die? Is that an American way of thought?

If so, when does it become your problem? When oil is at risk?


Again, you're allowing your temper to direct how you respond, insulting me again.

It's very clear that you don't know what the NATO Agreement is and how it functions, and why it's in place. Even with the internet at your fingertips, you're not researching it and don't seem to want to find out what it exactly entails.

The NATO Agreement has been set up since world war 2. Every country in the agreement has signed to stay on, and side with one another to protect each other from atrocities like the ones that happened during the world wars. Each country agrees to have a military budget that is 2% of their GDP.

Does that make sense to you now? I've given you highlights of it.

Now, it has nothing to do with anyone mooching off of America. It has everything to do with global security and world peace. You fail to see that, which is a shame.

This is coming from a 30 year old woman who knows more about American politics, economy and governance than you, an American (born??) citizen. You should be ashamed of yourself for not using the resources at your disposal to better yourself and educate yourself. It's evident you have a lot to learn.
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Originally Posted By Hesher
Hey, let's just ignore the fact that he was against the war in Iraq from the start.

Trump will usher in a period of peace and prosperity, while Judas Iscariot Cruz goes off and hangs himself in shame.
What you seem to ignore is what the leftists would do if he were elected. They would riot like in Baltimore, but on a massive scale.
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Originally Posted By sif
You think that these are vague? I can't be any more direct than this.

I'm more interested in why you think that the Nato Agreement is not important?
There are countries that are working towards their military spending budget and others who simply can't afford it. Does that mean that another country, who is well equipped and has signed an agreement, should stand back and let people die? Is that an American way of thought?

If so, when does it become your problem? When oil is at risk?


Again, you're allowing your temper to direct how you respond, insulting me again.

It's very clear that you don't know what the NATO Agreement is and how it functions, and why it's in place. Even with the internet at your fingertips, you're not researching it and don't seem to want to find out what it exactly entails.

The NATO Agreement has been set up since world war 2. Every country in the agreement has signed to stay on, and side with one another to protect each other from atrocities like the ones that happened during the world wars. Each country agrees to have a military budget that is 2% of their GDP.

Does that make sense to you now? I've given you highlights of it.

Now, it has nothing to do with anyone mooching off of America. It has everything to do with global security and world peace. You fail to see that, which is a shame.

This is coming from a 30 year old woman who knows more about American politics, economy and governance than you, an American (born??) citizen. You should be ashamed of yourself for not using the resources at your disposal to better yourself and educate yourself. It's evident you have a lot to learn.
Telling countries to spend more on their military/=NATO is over. Also even if America left, NATO would still be very powerful.

Which country can't afford it?

Who is dying?

America paid for the Iraq war, they should've made Iraq pay for it though.

They should spend more.

Yeah you're so smart, assuming because I patronize loaded questions and don't humor your nonsense that you have some superlative knowledge (you don't). You actually have a lot to learn about simple etiquette, when behaving like a kunt and asking your snarky loaded liberal questions, you will get called out on it, either discuss things rationally or don't. It's evident you have a lot to learn about not simultaneously calling for genocide and trying to be rational, best of luck!
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^^^^He is Canadian, FYI.
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Originally Posted By NVious
Telling countries to spend more on their military/=NATO is over. Also even if America left, NATO would still be very powerful.

Which country can't afford it?

Who is dying?

America paid for the Iraq war, they should've made Iraq pay for it though.

They should spend more.

Yeah you're so smart, assuming because I patronize loaded questions and don't humor your nonsense that you have some superlative knowledge (you don't). You actually have a lot to learn about simple etiquette, when behaving like a kunt and asking your snarky loaded liberal questions, you will get called out on it, either discuss things rationally or don't. It's evident you have a lot to learn about not simultaneously calling for genocide and trying to be rational, best of luck!
Which country can't afford it? Let's pick a name out of the hat...Greece. Bulgaria. Ukraine.

Who is dying? Have you spoken to a Ukrainian recently about their war? Do you read at all?

They should spend more. How can you spend more when your citizens don't have food to eat? Look at Greece.


Actually, I know that I can put together a sentence and use the built-in auto correct when using words that I'm unsure how to spell. I can't say the same for you. I can see that you're mentally outgunned here and you're reaching at straws. I have no problem with being called out. I have no problem with healthy debate. I also have no problem with people's politics.

What I do have a problem with is dealing with morons.
I have no patience for your idiocy. You are the type of person that I would laugh at in social interactions because you're just so goddamn stupid. And the best part is that it shows! And you continue to spew your idiocy with pride! It's comedic fuking gold.
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Originally Posted By sif
You think that these are vague? I can't be any more direct than this.

I'm more interested in why you think that the Nato Agreement is not important?
There are countries that are working towards their military spending budget and others who simply can't afford it. Does that mean that another country, who is well equipped and has signed an agreement, should stand back and let people die? Is that an American way of thought?

If so, when does it become your problem? When oil is at risk?


Again, you're allowing your temper to direct how you respond, insulting me again.

It's very clear that you don't know what the NATO Agreement is and how it functions, and why it's in place. Even with the internet at your fingertips, you're not researching it and don't seem to want to find out what it exactly entails.

The NATO Agreement has been set up since world war 2. Every country in the agreement has signed to stay on, and side with one another to protect each other from atrocities like the ones that happened during the world wars. Each country agrees to have a military budget that is 2% of their GDP.

Does that make sense to you now? I've given you highlights of it.

Now, it has nothing to do with anyone mooching off of America. It has everything to do with global security and world peace. You fail to see that, which is a shame.

This is coming from a 30 year old woman who knows more about American politics, economy and governance than you, an American (born??) citizen. You should be ashamed of yourself for not using the resources at your disposal to better yourself and educate yourself. It's evident you have a lot to learn.
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