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Why can't they make Pitbulls illegal to owned?
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Originally Posted By F1exAppeal
Kind of like you don't leave a tiger alone with a child right?? Anyone should be able to own a tiger. All tiger attacks are not the tigers fault but the owner. If you have a proper owner the chance of an attack goes down dramatically.
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Again, the statistics you reference have no proof that said dogs are actually pitbulls.
We don't need references that dogs that rip peoples limbs, facial features and skin apart are pit bulls. Because most people have seen videos like this..





and know that no other dog is capable of such savagery.

I hope you rot for spreading this pitbull propaganda. fck off you sick sociopath.
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Whenever I see someone walking one of those dog breeds the owner is always the same type of degenerate lower class semi-thug looking douchebag. Maybe there are exceptions, but it seems like 99.9% of all pitbull owners are low-iq chavs who think owning an aggressive dog breed somehow gives them status among their peers in the trashy trailer-park communities
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
Again, the statistics you reference have no proof that said dogs are actually pitbulls.
Dog bites are the number one animal attacks to humans. Its just that the pit bull's power and bite is a lot more deadly than that of your garden variety chihuahua.
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Originally Posted By dj924s
And you would have a good point if dog were smarter than people.

Once more, a human made the decision to put a dangerous animal in the same proximity as a child. Even after being told the dog posed a risk to the child.
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Originally Posted By QuickyBastar
Whenever I see someone walking one of those dog breeds It's always the same type of degenerate lower class semi-thug looking douchebag. Maybe there are exceptions, but it seems like 99.9% of all pitbull owners are low-iq chavs who think owning an aggressive dog breed somehow think it gives them status in their trailer-park communities
Actually that's true for the majority of dog owner. However again, a pit bull rampage make it particularly dangerous.
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
Again, the statistics you reference have no proof that said dogs are actually pitbulls.
One day scientists are going to kill us all.
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Originally Posted By dj924s
No, loins can easily over power a human. It is foolish to compare a 450Lb animal to a 50lb animal.

But you do raise a point, you need a proper restraint for the safety of others. The person in OP's story didn't use proper restraint.
Umm..pitbulls can easily overpower a human as well. Look at all of those pitbull attack videos (like the ones I posted above), the owner can't control the pit on a leash once it has it's mind set on destroying another dog/person.
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Originally Posted By CptClean
You're missing the point. Pitbulls are routinely mislabeled as such. Lots of pix mixed types, bulldogs, cane corsos, Doberman mixes, rotties, etc often get called pitbulls so there is no way to determine the accuracy of those stats
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Originally Posted By BloodyBaron
Umm..pitbulls can easily overpower a human as well. Look at all of those pitbull attack videos (like the ones I posted above), the owner can't control the pit on a leash once it has it's mind set on destroying another dog/person.
It's called YouTube dumbass. I can google any type of protection breed and find similar videos. Hell, even Chihuahua
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Originally Posted By dj924s
No, loins can easily over power a human. It is foolish to compare a 450Lb animal to a 50lb animal.

But you do raise a point, you need a proper restraint for the safety of others. The person in OP's story didn't use proper restraint.
Ok so a hyena. You'd be fine with me owning a hyena?lol
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
You're missing the point. Pitbulls are routinely mislabeled as such. Lots of pix mixed types, bulldogs, cane corsos, Doberman mixes, rotties, etc often get called pitbulls so there is no way to determine the accuracy of those stats
Lol @ this *******

How about this then = Pitbulls AND any breed mixed with a pitbull are scum and should be considered 100% dangerous at all times.
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
You're missing the point. Pitbulls are routinely mislabeled as such. Lots of pix mixed types, bulldogs, cane corsos, Doberman mixes, rotties, etc often get called pitbulls so there is no way to determine the accuracy of those stats
I actually really like real American Pitbull Terrier's and we can argue semantics all we want but the problem is the mix breed bulldog/pitbull/rot etc that have been bred for fighting and tall their offspring and cousins get spread throughout society.

Again I don't think any breed should be banned but the "pitbull" we have now is definitely a dangerous animal and it can't be disputed.
One day scientists are going to kill us all.
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Originally Posted By dj924s
No, loins can easily over power a human. It is foolish to compare a 450Lb animal to a 50lb animal.

But you do raise a point, you need a proper restraint for the safety of others. The person in OP's story didn't use proper restraint.
Uh not really, I've seen WAY too many videos where 5 people are trying to tear off a pitbull from someone. I would DEFINITELY compare that to a 450lb and, get this, a 10830382793 lb animal. At some point we have to make a logical decision, and not one based off of emotions. And for the few (if any) owners who could unlock a pitbulls jaws, what do we do for the 110lb owner?? Do we have to have a physical assessment to determine if you can own one??

BTW, I'm libertarian. I HATE government being in our lives where it absolutely shouldn't be. But this is for public safety. Try walking a tiger down the street on a leash, lmk what happens. Point is, either a VERY strict test, and license should be required to own one as any other dog, or, more logically, treat them as we do similarly with wild exotic animals. I'd be fine with anyone being able to own one, but you would need to keep it in a cage in your yard, or be able to walk it ONLY with proper muzzle, heavy duty restraints.

Again, I'm libertarian, but one of the FEW times the government should be involved is to protect oneself and property from others. If you leave out emotion and actually look at the facts, I think this is a reasonable solution.
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Originally Posted By BloodyBaron
Lol @ this *******

How about this then = Pitbulls AND any breed mixed with a pitbull are scum and should be considered 100% dangerous at all times.
You really know nothing about dogs. Any breed can mix with any other breed dumbass. 22 and you still don't understand reproduction
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Originally Posted By dj924s
OK, so you have never heard of a person killing another person?
Ok I see you dont get it. Let me make it easy

Humans(fancy word for people) are born. Because we are all humans we give each other certain rights and liberties. If a human kills another human, he gets punished but he is still human so most of the time they end up in jail with said privileges (freedom is not one).

If an ANIMAL kills a human it is not blamed on the animal. It is blamed on a human that let said animal have an opportunity to attack a Human. That's why we can't own jungle cats, hyenas etc. We have a governing body that oversees safety.

And no this is only for ANIMALS. Not guns. Not sugar. Not inademant objects

That should do it

Edit because I know this is going to be your response "exactly the animal shouldn't be blamed its the owners fault!" pitbulls are naturally more aggressive, if a pitbulls attacks just like a hyena. Chances are they are going to do some damage. Statistics are not on your side on this one. That is why it should not be left up to people . just like tigers and other jungle cats shouldn't be let up to individual people
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I've seen what a pitbull can and will do. My friend opened a door and our friend's pit rushed us and bit my homeys arm clean, could see the fatty tissue and capillaries and all right in front of me

Idgaf what what pitbull lovers have to say, i'll never trust one those fukers are vicious
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Originally Posted By YeaRightBuddy
Ok I see you dont get it. Let me make it easy

Humans(fancy word for people) are born. Because we are all humans we give each other certain rights and liberties. If a human kills another human, he gets punished but he is still human so most of the time they end up in jail with said privileges (freedom is not one).

If an ANIMAL kills a human it is not blamed on the animal. It is blamed on a human that let said animal have an opportunity to attack a Human. That's why we can't own jungle cats, hyenas etc. We have a governing body that oversees safety.

And no this is only for ANIMALS. Not guns. Not sugar. Not inademant objects

That should do it
You're comparing exotic cats and big game animals to domesticated dogs
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
You're comparing exotic cats and big game animals to domesticated dogs
85% of attacks from the same breed. Is that your idea of domestication?
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Originally Posted By YeaRightBuddy
85% of attacks from the same breed. Is that your idea of domestication?
Already been discussed...
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Lol yet there are tons of pitbull service dogs.

Let's take a look at it this way:
1. A majority of people look at dogs as these pets that are cute and fun, something to pet and take pictures of, and snuggle and cuddle with.

2. A majority of people also do not walk with their dog consistently, play with their dog consistently, or give their dog something to do of any substance.

3. A majority of people don't realize that a dog is usually high energy, and gets bored. Keeping it locked up all day and not doing anything with it will drive it nuts. Hence why dogs bite and chew on things, cause destruction, are considered unruly. Imagine being a child kept locked up all day, not given enough attention, and/or nothing to do besides play with a bone or a stuffed animal.

4. Dogs are typically bred for A REASON. That is why you must not only train them to be well behaved (via common sense and putting effort in training them), but you should try and get your dog involved with things to do that relate to their breed. I.E a dog like an australian shepherd should be challenged and involved in some sort of activity for which they are bred for, I.E herding. Do you know how many people keep a fukking australian shepherd locked inside all day and barely let it do anyhting? People always complain about how much energy they have, how they always destroy the house, and are annoying. Well.....fukking entertain your pet.

5. People are the problem. These are animals. Certain breeds are not at domesticated, and certain breeds are bred for particular reasons, as stated above. Would you get a german shepherd and just keep him in your house and walk him for 10 min every day? No. That is why so many dogs are in the backyard barking like crazy and are the ravaging beasts. They have no purpose. The actual purpose as to why they were bred is not being satisfied.


In conclusion, people are the issue, and are fukking idiots when it comes to dogs.
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
You're comparing exotic cats and big game animals to domesticated dogs
Pitbulls = domesticated dogs.

Pitbulls = domesticated dogs

Pitbulls = domesticated dogs

Pitbulls = Domesticated

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re: You're comparing exotic cats and big game animals to domesticated dogs


All dogs aren't domesticated. Treat them different.
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
You're comparing exotic cats and big game animals to domesticated dogs
To certain breeds of dogs, yes he is. And?? You're point is?? If an animal can do serious damage and you need to have top notch training to be able to prevent it, I would say we should look into making sure the publics best interest is at hand and not just "trust" any person who wants one to be able to "control" it properly. Don't let your emotions get in the way bro, pretty simple stuff to grab. And if you think k Chihuahuas and pitbulls are in the exact same category because they are the same species?? Lol bro...
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Originally Posted By ClevageGobbler
I've seen what a pitbull can and will do. My friend opened a door and our friend's pit rushed us and bit my homeys arm clean, could see the fatty tissue and capillaries and all right in front of me

Idgaf what what pitbull lovers have to say, i'll never trust one those fukers are vicious
Yes exactly. The breed is very strong and potentially dangerous. But they can be the most loving and great dogs if trained correctly. They aren't quite aware of how strong they are. If they are raised with no rules and no idea of what is right and wrong, then what do you expect? They can't speak. So yelling "stop stop!!" isn't doing chit.

That is why my other post is the reason I believe owning a pitbull should be extremely regulated and restricted unless to the right people. Many smaller dogs are actually more vicious and aggressive, but pitbulls are one of the few breeds where their actions result is severe damage and death because of their strength. A chihuahua may be more typically aggressive and protective and bitchy, but clearly a bite from them won't do anything vs that of a pitbull
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Originally Posted By dj924s
The animal isn't blamed?
Now I know you are trolling.
When a dog kills, the dog gets euthanized.
Do you blame a jungle cat for killing an animal? No
Do you blame a pitbull for killing a toddler? No. Like you said you blame the owners
Does the pitbulls get punished? Yes
Why? Because hes already a threat.
Should the risk of an owner not being able to handle a dangerous animal be eliminated so that you can significantly save lives and attacks? I say yes and for some strange reason you say no.

I dont know how to make this simpler for you. Logic, reasoning and common sense is not on your side in this debate.
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Originally Posted By ToPHeR35
Already been discussed...
Lol already been discussed?? Someone showed you statistics, and your excuse was "they must of miscategorzed the breed, duh". Lmao what a convenient answer.

Do you own a pitbull? Not assuming, now I'm genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
Why can't they make Pitbulls illegal to owned?
Love dogs more than people (srs) but always 360 out of there of I see a pitt while I'm walking my pupper even if it's on leash, because they are usually jumping like crazy while the owner struggles to hold them back. If I don't know your pitt I don't trust your pitt and my dog is my world so all I care about is protecting her

There's really no way to ban them. You can make it a crime to own them but some will always get through which will continue to bread. I don't know what the answer is, but banning them won't solve the problem. Maybe it will reduce them? but it won't eliminate them
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owning a pitbull = low iq
owning a pitbull = compensating for x circumstance
owning a pitbull = victim complex


(in layman's terms for the obviously uneducated peasants who actually own pitbulls (inb4 I have a bachelors in psych. LOL plz go))

owning a pitbull = you are most likely a struggling piece of sh*t who contributes nothing to society
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Yes exactly. The breed is very strong and potentially dangerous. But they can be the most loving and great dogs if trained correctly. They aren't quite aware of how strong they are. If they are raised with no rules and no idea of what is right and wrong, then what do you expect? They can't speak. So yelling "stop stop!!" isn't doing chit.

That is why my other post is the reason I believe owning a pitbull should be extremely regulated and restricted unless to the right people. Many smaller dogs are actually more vicious and aggressive, but pitbulls are one of the few breeds where their actions result is severe damage and death because of their strength. A chihuahua may be more typically aggressive and protective and bitchy, but clearly a bite from them won't do anything vs that of a pitbull
A tiger can be very loving and the sweetest pet if trained properly. That doesn't mean the general public wants their kids to come across one being held with a leash by a 115 lb "badass" chick. Don't let emotion cloud logic. Right when you start talking about how they can be the most loving, great dogs is when I see the emotion. It has nothing to do with the dog being "evil", it has everything to do with community safety.

EDIT: just read second part, and can see you do understand where I'm coming from, I guess the loving great dog part was for the poster you were originally talking to.
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