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Thread: Anyone else think minimalism is just another bullsh!t trend now? srs

post 1507461451 06-06-2017, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By inb4everything⏩
If we had a great econony with lot of good paying entry jobs and.higher wage to housing cost ratio, this trend wouldn't even exist.
This

I don't know why people are saying that minimalism has been the way humans have lived forever... Humans have always decorated their living space, that they owned, and used their space to express themselves... only the very poor didn't do that
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets⏩
I used to be all into it but now I've realized it's just another stupid trend. Seems a little pretentious too. Like they shun the very thought of possibly increasing their arbitrary object count and act as if anyone who likes to collect things whether out of interest, hobby or nostalgic purposes is some sort of brainwashed product of modern society.

I just look at most of the people I know who are into it or the "leaders" of the movements in terms of online presence and they all just seem fake or pretentious to me.
when most people think of minimalism, or a minimalstic lifestyle, they think of this...





or this...









the truth is, (imo), that the above two images does not do justice to minimalism. because minimalist imo is not a 'goal' that should be sought. nobody is like, once i do x, y, and z, i'll be a minialist lol. that's not how it works.

being a minimalist is sort of like a way of seeing life. people who get rid of their tv's, clothing, cars, etc, and then 'struggle' are doing it wrong. minimalism can take on different meanings for different people. for me, it's about getting rid of things/simplifying the things i don't need, to find more enjoyment/less clutter with the things i do need/enjoy.
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
There seems to be a disagreement over what minimalism is.

If it means keeping your place clean and not buying useless chit, I'm all for it

If it means trying to get rid of everything you have and live with the bare minimum, then it's a stupid trend
Pretty much.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Pretty much.

Moved house 10 times in 13 years crew. Once moved 3 times in a 2 year span.

Cross country move shifted as little as possible. Replacing all the common place stuff is a PITA...

BRB need a broom
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I did 5 times in 1 year, one of those moving in with a lass and then going through a breakup and moving out again... was about ready to off myself carrying chit around into trucks
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Originally Posted By NotANun21⏩
Minimalism is an excuse for being poor

It's "I don't have a lot of money to buy stuff and I may end up living in my car soon so better keep the amount of chit I own light"
You're an idiot.
Does consuming more make you richer or poorer?

Instead of buying overpriced crap that I don't need, I'd rather save the money and go traveling or invest it so ill have to spend less time working in my life. I don't need endless amount of entertainment on TV, therefor basic cable is good enough. I keep it simple.

I also care about the environment, therefor buying less useless garbage is the way to do imo.


Originally Posted By ironicinori⏩
Absolutely. They're just telling themselves they are minimalist, and keeping their place relatively clean.

After I watched that documentary, I cleaned my house and realized it was all bullchit. 99% of the stuff I own, I may not need right now, but I need it. Stuff like a toolset, a travel wallet, extra USB cable.All of the "clutter" filling my closet is stuff that if I threw away, I'd be pissed that I can't find it within 2 weeks. I'm not even saying this is a bad thing. I got rid of 1% that was junk, and cleaned my apartment...

TLDR, there's no difference from "minimalism" and just keeping your chit clean.
Consider charity next time brah, poor people would be happy with that junk.
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Originally Posted By brodiddly⏩
I think you've totally missed the point of minimalism. I'm not a 'minimalist' myself but the concepts are universal.

It's not about just throwing out all your stuff.

It's about how there's a lot of people living in huge, heavily mortgaged homes, with huge amounts of credit card debt, working jobs they don't like just to pay for these things. It's about being content with less and thinking more about how you use your resources
This is a great point.
But what kind of idiot needs to buy some documentary for 17.99 to realize that?
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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
This is a great point.
But what kind of idiot needs to buy some documentary for 17.99 to realize that?
People that are working jobs they hate to pay for all the crap they own and don't have time to sit down and figure it out themselves.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Minimalism is GOAT and it's not a trend either.

Can't stand clutter.
You can't afford clutter
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Was not aware that it's a trend.

I am a minimalist mostly because I prefer to spend money on experiences rather than things. Things don't make me happy but experiences give me all sorts of feels. If things made me happy, I'd spend money on them, but they don't.

Actually, the only experience I spend money on is travel. Most of the things that make me happy don't require any money.
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
No you moron. Minimalism is the default state of being throughout human history, its what we evolved on.
Define it however you want but language is conventional, and that is not the conventional definition of minimalism.

Ask people what they think about minimalism and the pop culture videos, documentaries and books are what come to mind.

Minimalism has become a pop culture trend and people are packaging it as a product and trendy lifestyle to aspire to.

Simple living is different.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
kind of judging and laughing at you for even being that involved with it. why is there an entire community about not being a fuking hoarder?just try to get by on the least amount of "stuff" as possible. try to have only essentials.
That is minimalism.
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When did it become minimalism instead of Spartan? Spartan is a much cooler word to describe living a purely utilitarian lifestyle.
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Originally Posted By gwem32170191⏩
When did it become minimalism instead of Spartan? Spartan is a much cooler word to describe living a purely utilitarian lifestyle.
When minimalism became a consumer product in itself. Another good question is why is a minimalist lifestyle often associated with white walls, couches and monochromatic furniture? There is minimalist art, which is a real style and there is this half hearted minimalist lifestyle that people subscribe to because the projected lifestyle image is attractive, rather than the actual act of simple living.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
minimalism makes me feel genuinely content in life, i don't give a fuk if other people do it as some kind of trend, all I know is it makes me a lot happier and I think i'll be living this way for the rest of my life. Well, I hope so.

Do what makes u feel good bruh, disregard anyone else's views
Same here. The poster above you is an idiot. Minimalism means having what you need and not having what you do not need.

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Or just live wiithin your means and not give a fuk

If you can afford it, noice

If you cant, oh well


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Originally Posted By MrGreenTea⏩
So this is where we are...people have gotten to the point where they are so obsessed with buying material possesions that we now have a label for living a normal life of being clean, tidy, and not overspending.
Yep...

I think that's a good concise argument for why the concept/trend is useful and beneficial.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2aQ2e0ch8k

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2aQ2e0ch8k

https://www.reddit.com/r/simpleliving/
Simple living or an ascetic lifestyle is fine. It's the modern trend of what minimalism has become that is pretentious and silly.

Just type "minimalism" into YouTube and the first things that pop up are:

"How YOU Can Become a Minimalist! My 30 Day Challenge"

This is now branding and self-proclamation for ego and creating some sort of arbitrary "30 day challenge".

"5 things you should get rid of"

I thought minimalism was about keeping what's special in YOUR life? Why is there a guide/authority now on what is appropriate to keep and what is not?

"What do Minimalists Wear?"

Whatever you fuking want. Why is there now some sort of fashion trends that minimalists must subscribe to?

"Being a Minimalist - Ultra Spiritual Life"

Just sounds douchey as fuk

Minimalism has become an instagram trend and circle jerk for the ego. Another common one is when people try to become "one with nature" and start doing all these outdoor activities and dressing like a hippie. They are more obsessed with the projected lifestyle image of being an outdoorsy person than they are with the actual act of hiking, fishing, etc. People model their lives to arbitrarily fit into these lifestyle definitions in order to boost their ego and social status. I've seen it countless times and unfortunately that is what minimalism has become/the path it is headed down.
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it's become a meme like mindfulness but they are still beneficial mindsets to have
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets⏩
I used to be all into it but now I've realized it's just another stupid trend. Seems a little pretentious too. Like they shun the very thought of possibly increasing their arbitrary object count and act as if anyone who likes to collect things whether out of interest, hobby or nostalgic purposes is some sort of brainwashed product of modern society.

I just look at most of the people I know who are into it or the "leaders" of the movements in terms of online presence and they all just seem fake or pretentious to me.
Minimalism isn't some new trend; it has religious/spiritual roots but goes by a different name 'Asceticism'. It just means you don't let material objects 'own' or 'govern' your life. The less you have; the freer you are.

One way to do that is to get rid of all the luxuries you have and focus on the essentials. Which makes perfect sense - it frees up your life and allows you to focus on what matters; social connections, spirituality, and enjoying life outside.

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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
There seems to be a disagreement over what minimalism is.

If it means keeping your place clean and not buying useless chit, I'm all for it

If it means trying to get rid of everything you have and live with the bare minimum, then it's a stupid trend
im for the bolded one and currently practicing this. but at some point it drove me nuts when my missus started hoarding stuff she didn't need and utilizes the space i just cleared for her own...
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets⏩
Define it however you want but language is conventional, and that is not the conventional definition of minimalism.

Ask people what they think about minimalism and the pop culture videos, documentaries and books are what come to mind.

Minimalism has become a pop culture trend and people are packaging it as a product and trendy lifestyle to aspire to.

Simple living is different.
I'll take the definition that's been used for thousands of years over the one that was written 2 years ago by some hipster phucktard on Urban Dictionary, thank you very much.
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Originally Posted By NotANun21⏩
Minimalism is an excuse for being poor

It's "I don't have a lot of money to buy stuff and I may end up living in my car soon so better keep the amount of chit I own light"
I think a lot of people may start doing it because of that. Im poor and I just eventually came to realize that you don't need a bunch of crap to make you happy or even necessarily make life better

When you are poor you learn to be frugal and not waste everything. You learn that buying a $5 shirt from Goodwill makes more sense than buying a $50 one from the mall. Not having a car payment because you paid cash for a used car is a lot better than paying $500 a month for one.

Maybe it's cope > acceptance > realizing you don't need those things anyways > happiness
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
No you moron. Minimalism is the default state of being throughout human history, its what we evolved on.
It's the complete opposite, all of human history has been humans doing everything in their power to gain more and more. More land, money, women, armies. Cars, houses, prostitutes, rep power...

It's the same drive that makes people think buying things will bring them happiness. The idea of minimalism is a good one. It's just that the minimalists on TV that brag about it seem full of chit.
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A lot of misunderstanding of minimalism. Yes, the idea has been somewhat hijacked by neck beards, but it is still a worthwhile mindset.

It is really about letting go of attachments and freeing yourself from bullchit that doesn't matter. That Fight Club quote about your stuff owning you ... pretty spot on.

I sold a bunch of my stuff when i went and hiked/biked across country. One thing that stood out in my mind when i was selling stuff was the DVDs i owned. Over the years i had spent over $1000 on DVDs and selling them was mental torture. Brb ... "What if i want to watch this one?" ... "Damn i spent $15 on that and am only going to get $2 selling it."

FRIGGEN DVDs! I spent hours pissing and moaning about selling them. I eventually just did it and within 30 minutes i gave zero phucks.

Flash forward a few years. Now i'm trying to move. Exact same issue with pens. FRIGGEN PENS! When you pick something up that you haven't used in years and have mental tug-o-war over keeping it or getting rid of it .... that's when you start to understand the concept of letting go of attachments ... minimalism.

The hardest thing was selling my car. I spent so much time researching the car, haggling with dealers, purchasing it, paying on it, etc.. When it came time to sell it... fuuuu... mental torture. Now that it is sold, i seriously could give two chits. Oh ya, no car payment anymore. One less thing to worry about.


I'm nowhere near as bad as most people. Tons of people i know will stay in crappy job they hate, not move to places they dream of, stay in chit relationships, etc .... all because of stuff. Brb ... "I can't do that... who's gonna watch the house" ... "I wish i could but i have a car payment coming up" ... "If i divorce shes gonna get the car and house."

So it's not about having less stuff... that's just an easy way to portray a deeper idea. It's about seeing the illusions for what they are and ridding yourself of your attachment to chit that doesn't matter. You can be happy without being a slave to what society has programmed into your head.

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Originally Posted By ironicinori⏩
It's the complete opposite, all of human history has been humans doing everything in their power to gain more and more. More land, money, women, armies. Cars, houses, prostitutes, rep power...

It's the same drive that makes people think buying things will bring them happiness. The idea of minimalism is a good one. It's just that the minimalists on TV that brag about it seem full of chit.
True that has always existed. My point was that there are people who were happy with what they had thousands of years ago. Read stories of the Bible and the Buddha. They basically preached minimalism. Its not a new concept by any means. Meanwhile OP thinks its a "trend"

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post 1507496851 06-06-2017, 08:07 PM
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One plus about minimalism...

It feels good knowing that within a week i could quite a job i hate, leave a place i hate, fit all my stuff into the back of a pickup truck, and peace out without a care in the world. That's true freedom... and you don't have to be rich to experience it.
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post 1507497101 06-06-2017, 08:10 PM
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Why would you attack minimalists? why not attack people lining up outside the APple store at midnight to upgrade their expensive phone to a slightly better expensive phone?

I think I am a minimalist, Its not about getting down to owning less than 50 items, its just only owning things you need.
post 1507497791 06-06-2017, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
One plus about minimalism...

It feels good knowing that within a week i could quite a job i hate, leave a place i hate, fit all my stuff into the back of a pickup truck, and peace out without a care in the world. That's true freedom... and you don't have to be rich to experience it.
That seems to be a common motivation... is minimalism about being a nomad? Being mobile enough to pack up and leave because you're discontent
Is there an end goal? does landing a good job, raising a family and making a nice home for them fit in with this trend assuming you live within your means?
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