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Thread: Americans, are you offending by the whole taking a knee thing?

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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
This country has gone full retard. The only remotely sane people are the liberals and conservatives saying, "Why don't you go kneel in front of a police station or violent parts of Chicago instead of disrespecting the flag and what it stands for by grand standing."
"herp derp, if you're so patriotic why don't you salute the flag from inside an active volcano"

WTF kinda stupid logic is that from the "sane" people?
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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No and I'm so goddamn tired of hearing about this stupid non-issue
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Originally Posted By ATT82121⏩
To address your second point, sure the NFL didn't come knocking on his door but what gave way to the NFL to be created, to operate and to be so well funded? America.
Well if you wanna play chicken vs. egg with The Constitution vs. America be my guest, regardless they're both pretty big advocates of the 1st amendment tho.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By DipsManiac⏩
You state absolutes like saying cops don't condemn bad cops on a large scale...WHERE IS YOUR PROOF OF THAT?...Other than your bias based on your skin color.
lmao you're basically saying because I'm black I don't like cops. Proof is that they still work in the departments. Cops get canned in one and transferred like nothing ever happened.
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This kind of thing falls in my line, so I can't help but be attracted to them. Anyway, I'm not going to re-type everything i just said. I have some fairly lengthy replies in another thread if you care to read them.

Thread:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...4792621&page=1
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no because im not a fukking cuck ******* leftist libtard
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Originally Posted By Iukas⏩
no because im not a fukking cuck ******* leftist libtard
Neither am I, *******.
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Originally Posted By lexbishop⏩
Confirmation bias occurs at a subconscious level.

Read that entire post over and over until all of it clicks, not just the part you chose to cherry pick because that's simply the natural conclusion, not a one statement response.
I got what you are were saying I was just asking a simple question. I don't know those people and they don't know me. Why should I be held accountable for their actions
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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
It's not just for black people but police brutality as a whole.
No it's not. Don't kid yourself. These protests have always been, and continue to be, police brutality against blacks. There is nothing provocative about black and white athletes championing against police brutality of all people. Because it it were, these people would see the numbers and see that the slogan should be All Lives Matter.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Well if you wanna play chicken vs. egg with The Constitution vs. America be my guest, regardless they're both pretty big advocates of the 1st amendment tho.
What the fuck are you even saying
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Oh yeah cause I'm the one throwing the word around without any attempt at hinting how anybody involved is ignorant, or how I came to that conclusion

No, it's just a case of irony here, some halfwit using words that are out of his grasp but don't let me stop you from making yourself look like an idiot.
Yeah, these NFL players look really smart. They're just expressing themselves! How cute!

If you think police are out there indiscriminately killing black people and if you're so imbecilic to believe that and further to promote your stupidity you kneel during the national anthem? Holy chit that's a whole lot of stupid.

These athletes epitomize ignorance. They are completely unaware of facts surrounding law enforcement use of force or the cases when it occurs.

If they actually wanted to make a difference wouldn't they protest the killings that happen in Chicago with black on black crime? Or are facts too scary. It's super convenient after the last president created so much division and race conversation to now call any person who disagrees a racist. The word racist has lost it's true meaning because morons keep throwing it out there.

Also don't let this blow your mind, but why is kneeling for the anthem okay under the first amendment, but a bunch of toothless rednecks marching isn't? The left picks and chooses when freedom of speech applies (which it doesn't in the NFL) and then they go out of their way to silence those they don't like, ANTIFA/BLM.
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I'll say this my point is who really gives a ****?

OK say you were offended because it set a bad example for the kids, are there any other instances of you being up in arms cause the NFL was setting a bad example for kids?

You gonna tell me this is the first time NFL was setting a bad example for kids?

I don't have a dog in the fight, I watched football Sunday and was happy as a clam, didn't think about players kneeling, probably changed the channel while the anthem was on anyways.

IDK I can't wrap my head around people giving so much of a ****, and all aided by people grossly misinterpreting what the constitution actually means, or if not finding some completely ancillary reason to pin the blame on like the children.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
lmao you're basically saying because I'm black I don't like cops. Proof is that they still work in the departments. Cops get canned in one and transferred like nothing ever happened.
Where is your proof of anything you are saying...Are you privy to all the police departments policies and procedures across the US.

Didn't think so....Yeah, I think it's your black bias showing up.
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Originally Posted By lexbishop⏩
Confirmation bias occurs at a subconscious level.
It's also very conscious. A perfect example of this is: unfollowing/unfriending someone on social media that has opposing political views so that the bulk of your exposure lines up with your own beliefs. Or refusing to watch CNN if you're Conservative. Fox, if you're Liberal.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
I'll say this my point is who really gives a ****?

OK say you were offended because it set a bad example for the kids, are there any other instances of you being up in arms cause the NFL was setting a bad example for kids?

You gonna tell me this is the first time NFL was setting a bad example for kids?

I don't have a dog in the fight, I watched football Sunday and was happy as a clam, didn't think about players kneeling, probably changed the channel while the anthem was on anyways.

IDK I can't wrap my head around people giving so much of a ****, and all aided by people grossly misinterpreting what the constitution actually means, or if not finding some completely ancillary reason to pin the blame on like the children.
I do because I was raised to believe that flag isn't just some piece of cloth, but something that stands for so much more. It is meant to be revered and is a strong symbol of our great nation.

I'd scrape my whole body with road rash before I'd let the US flag touch the ground if I was nearby.

The constitution has NOTHING to do with occupations. Why don't people realize that?
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Originally Posted By DipsManiac⏩
Where is your proof of anything you are saying...Are you privy to all the police departments policies and procedures across the US.

Didn't think so....Yeah, I think it's your black bias showing up.
Im privy to enough my dad is a fukin cop lmao
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Originally Posted By Gnocchi⏩
I do because I was raised to believe that flag isn't just some piece of cloth, but something that stands for so much more. It is meant to be revered and is a strong symbol of our great nation.
Welp buddy you got yourself a pickle there because the flag is meant to be revered because it doesn't have to be.

That's America for you.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
I can take apart a few reasons a little too easily:

1. Setting a bad example- Oh OK so people protesting to stand up for something they believe in is "setting a bad example".

2. Kaepernick should be grateful NFL chose him to be showered with money- no the reality is he was earning that due to his physical talents, NFL didn't come knock on his door with a million dollar check like ****ing Publishers Clearing House or something.



Those are both arguments that could just as easily be made.
1. The manner in which you do something is often times as important as the message. Soap boxing during a moment that is supposed to pay tribute to millions of people that have fought and died for this country is unbelievably disrespectful. There are a million other ways that these athletes could of chosen to voice their opinion... and yet they chose the flag and anthem. Why?

The only thing I've been able to rationalize is that this all stems from domestic anti Americanism. There is a growing segment of society that is ashamed to be American and would like nothing more than for it to be replaced by something else. The most extreme of this is what i see in the Antifa movement. They'd love to see it go down in flames and communism rise instead. The more moderate version is the Bernie crowd IMO. They don't want to build on what made this country great. They want to fundamentally change the country and the way it operates.

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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
you don't think police brutality is a problem at all? Nobody mention "Hands up dont shoot" so that's irrelevant to this
its a small problem, and they are making it seem like it is the biggest problem in the country right now. The fact is that roughly 26 blacks die per year from police, and roughly half of those are justified....compare that to how many black kids join gangs, dropout of school, dont have a father, ect ect....those issues are much bigger than police brutality yet they dont want to even acknowledge them. oh, and more whites die from cops than blacks, and around 130 cops died last year

At the end of the day if I was a police officer and it was my life vs some random thug's....i would make sure i go home and see my family after work...and thats that...how about if u dont wanna get killed by police, then dont resist..
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
"herp derp, if you're so patriotic why don't you salute the flag from inside an active volcano"

WTF kinda stupid logic is that from the "sane" people?
No clue what you're trying to say here.
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No. These things are socially constructed. Trump is overreacting. With enough players "kneeling", it will soon become the norm. You can love your country and still stand OR kneel for the national anthem.
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its a small problem, and they are making it seem like it is the biggest problem in the country right now. The fact is that roughly 26 blacks die per year from police, and roughly half of those are justified....compare that to how many black kids join gangs, dropout of school, dont have a father, ect ect....those issues are much bigger than police brutality yet they dont want to even acknowledge them. oh, and more whites die from cops than blacks, and around 130 cops died last year

At the end of the day if I was a police officer and it was my life vs some random thug's....i would make sure i go home and see my family after work...and thats that...how about if u dont wanna get killed by police, then dont resist..
Horrible argument.

You're making the assumption that the police have a universal definition of "resistance", and that they are all honest. In theory, these should be true. In practice, they aren't.

You should be able to resist arrest and not lose your life in the blink of an eye.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
1. The manner in which you do something is often times as important as the message. Soap boxing during a moment that is supposed to pay tribute to millions of people that have fought and died for this country is unbelievably disrespectful. There are a million other ways that these athletes could of chosen to voice their opinion... and yet they chose the flag and anthem. Why?
So according to you participating in a ceremony is more respectful to the memory of soldiers than exercising the very rights that said soldiers allegedly died defending?

Complete and utter bull****.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
its a small problem, and they are making it seem like it is the biggest problem in the country right now. The fact is that roughly 26 blacks die per year from police, and roughly half of those are justified....compare that to how many black kids join gangs, dropout of school, dont have a father, ect ect....those issues are much bigger than police brutality yet they dont want to even acknowledge them. oh, and more whites die from cops than blacks, and around 130 cops died last year

At the end of the day if I was a police officer and it was my life vs some random thug's....i would make sure i go home and see my family after work...and thats that...how about if u dont wanna get killed by police, then dont resist..
and that's the reason why they are having this protest. There is a big gap between someone resisting and you taking their life. Those other things you mentioned are issues but arent something you can affect as easily. We play the police salary. You cant make a dad stay around
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Welp buddy you got yourself a pickle there because the flag is meant to be revered because it doesn't have to be.

That's America for you.
No it would be you. Revering something is not shown by kneeling like a jackass. If you respect something you wouldn't do that.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
No. These things are socially constructed. Trump is overreacting. With enough players "kneeling", it will soon become the norm. You can love your country and still stand OR kneel for the national anthem.
I do agree with the part Trump purposely orchestrated bringing this issue back up because his poll numbers were declining and he needed to shore up his conservative base....Trump's having trouble getting his health care bill passed so a good deflection tactic like a social issue does the trick....Straight out of the play book democrats have used for years. Liberals taught it and now Trump is perfecting it.
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Originally Posted By Gnocchi⏩
No it would be you. Revering something is not shown by kneeling like a jackass. If you respect something you wouldn't do that.
LOL so it's not necessarily about what the flag stands for that you feel necessarily should be respected, but the actual piece of cloth?

LMFAO IDEK why I'm wasting my time arguing with some goofies, I'm outta here.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
and that's the reason why they are having this protest. There is a big gap between someone resisting and you taking their life. Those other things you mentioned are issues but arent something you can affect as easily. We play the police salary. You cant make a dad stay around
If you weren't in the situation you can't comment.

To assume that race has any play in an officer's mind is absolutely ludicrous. But people, like Obama, who love making things a race issue will always do that. Then the feeble minded will buy into it and say, you know what, that must be right! The domino effect goes from there.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
LOL so it's not necessarily about what the flag stands for that you feel necessarily should be respected, but the actual piece of cloth?

LMFAO IDEK why I'm wasting my time arguing with some goofies, I'm outta here.
You're clueless. Go kneel outside and post a pic to your FB clown. I'm sure that will get your jollies off just swell.

Moron.
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