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Thread: Is powerlifting pure cope?

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Lifting
Cope

Choose both
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Originally Posted By Power_Strike92⏩
Honestly can't think of a single reason why it wouldn't be. 100% cope, 100% cuck.
That's only a question someone who's not very strong, and most definitely a cuckold would ask.
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Originally Posted By PeteRubish⏩
Honestly, some of the responses in here are beyond laughable. Some of you literally could not show any more ignorance or be more wrong about every word that you so carefully typed out on the screen. I am baffled...truly baffled at the stupidity of a number of the responses in here.
The main argument is that its not skill based. If you squat 5x5 3x a week, at the most you are spending around 20 minutes under the squat bar.

Thats 170 hours of squatting in 10 years. If you have the genetics to be a world class lifter, then thats probably the amount of hours (more or less, depending on training volume variation) needed to have a freakish squat.

What other athletic movement can you become a pro with only 170 hours of practice? (Hint, there is none)

I could spend 170 hours playing baseball, football, basketball and not come close to 1% of what a pro can do.

Powerlifting does not even come close to the skill threshold of other sports...
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Any lift other than I bicep curl is pure cope. Lettuce be real tea. The only impressive thing to see in a gym is a dude that can legit curl the biggest dumbell
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
The main argument is that its not skill based. If you squat 5x5 3x a week, at the most you are spending around 20 minutes under the squat bar.

Thats 170 hours of squatting in 10 years. If you have the genetics to be a world class lifter, then thats probably the amount of hours (more or less, depending on training volume variation) needed to have a freakish squat.

What other athletic movement can you become a pro with only 170 hours of practice? (Hint, there is none)

I could spend 170 hours playing baseball, football, basketball and not come close to 1% of what a pro can do.

Powerlifting does not even come close to the skill threshold of other sports...
Solid math there... I'm sure nothing else goes into getting a freakishly powerful squat...

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if you're doing it to get pussy then yeah its cope
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
Solid math there... I'm sure nothing else goes into getting a freakishly powerful squat...

We are talking about time spent learning a skill, stuffing your face with food and doing some ab work has nothing to do with the time spent required to learn how to squat. Even if you did add all that stuff, which has absolutely no bearing whatsoever onlearninghow to squat, the hours invested still wouldnt come close to whats required of other sports.

You can post lame ass gifs and make a very loose argument, but it doesnt change the fact that powerlifters spend very little time under the bar compared to what a soccer player does on the pitch. Thats the bottom line, its an inescapable fact.

It's like a football player saying they include the time spent putting on their pads in their weekly hours of practice, since that does help them become a football player right...
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed⏩
if you're doing it to get pussy then yeah its cope
I don't think anybody does powerlifting for pussy.
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Ok, I just read the first page of this thread, and, I think it's a matter of opinion, whatever happened to doing something because you enjoy it? and setting goals for yourself? If you want you can just eat junk food and watch TV and be a couch potato. At the end of the day, your motto should ALWAYS be ''live and let live''. Now, about the sport of powerlifting, I have nothing but the utmost respect for the sport, but what I do now is bodybuilding. Growing up, many kids idolize superheroes that have super human strength like the incredible hulk, superman, and many others, I remember when I was a child, I was SO impressed by the idea of having super human strength, super human speed or vision somehow didn't impress me as much, needless to say I wanted to be a bodybuilder. Growing up seeing Lou Ferrigno and Arnold, that truly inspired me, I thought ''why look like a regular dude when I could look like that'' it was that simple. Now, I did compete in a powerlifting competition once, and it was a great experience, I got a medal and everything, but that was the last time I competed, I figure whatever I lift in the gym is what I lift, I just don't feel the need to compete to prove it to anybody, but I'm not dissing the sport, I think it's a GREAT sport, I just happen to love bodybuilding more, with bodybuilding you get to have the strength AND the looks. I do drug-free bodybuilding and it's the ultimate, at every family reunion I'm treated with so much respect because of my presence (I'm big) and knowing that I can handle my own definitely brings me a great level of confidence
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
We are talking about time spent learning a skill, stuffing your face with food and doing some ab work has nothing to do with the time spent required to learn how to squat. Even if you did add all that stuff, which has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on learning how to squat, the hours invested still wouldnt come close to whats required of other sports.

You can post lame ass gifs and make a very loose argument, but it doesnt change the fact thatpowerlifters spend very little time under the bar compared to what a soccer player does on the pitch. Thats the bottom line, its an inescapable fact.

It's like a football player saying they include the time spent putting on their pads in theirweekly hours of practice, since that does help them become a football player right...
The goal posts keep moving here. Are we talking about....

1. The time spent to learn a skill
2. The time spent performing/perfecting that skill

Srs question.
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
The goal posts keep moving here. Are we talking about....

1. The time spent to learn a skill
2. The time spent performing/perfecting that skill

Srs question.
I dont know why you have a hard time grasping this, let me reiterate once more:

-A powerlifter spends very little time practicing in the gym
-A soccer player spends far more time practing on the field than a powerlifter does in the gym

Now, which sport is harder to learn how tolearn? Soccer or powerlifting, one where you have topracticefor many hours a week, or one where you dont?

You never hear someone say that a soccer player is a genetic freak after all.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
The main argument is that its not skill based. If you squat 5x5 3x a week, at the most you are spending around 20 minutes under the squat bar.

Thats 170 hours of squatting in 10 years. If you have the genetics to be a world class lifter, then thats probably the amount of hours (more or less, depending on training volume variation) needed to have a freakish squat.

What other athletic movement can you become a pro with only 170 hours of practice? (Hint, there is none)

I could spend 170 hours playing baseball, football, basketball and not come close to 1% of what a pro can do.

Powerlifting does not even come close to the skill threshold of other sports...
So?
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
I dont know why you have a hard time grasping this, let me reiterate once more:

-A powerlifter spends very little time practicing in the gym
-A soccer player spends far more time practing on the field than a powerlifter does in the gym

Now, which sport is harder to learn how tolearn? Soccer or powerlifting, one where you have topracticefor many hours a week, or one where you dont?

You never hear someone say that a soccer player is a genetic freak after all.
Are you or have you ever been a competitive powerlifter?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
So?
hopefully it helps you understand why nobody takes your sport seriously on a skill level
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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
Are you a competitive powerlifter?
appeal to authority... poverty reasoning skills
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
appeal to authority... poverty reasoning skills
Not at all. Simply because if so you would have a wealth of experience on the nuances of technique for certain lifts and ways to improve/change that based on body composition, age, etc.

You use soccer as a counter, but all in all Soccer is a very simple sport at its core. However, only a fool would assume once you learn the basics that's all you have to do. Same with powerlifting, or really most sports.

Come on man... If you don't like something that is fine and all, but don't cook up silly arguments based on your assumptions for something you know little about because of it.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
I dont know why you have a hard time grasping this, let me reiterate once more:

-A powerlifter spends very little time practicing in the gym
-A soccer player spends far more time practing on the field than a powerlifter does in the gym

Now, which sport is harder to learn how tolearn? Soccer or powerlifting, one where you have topracticefor many hours a week, or one where you dont?

You never hear someone say that a soccer player is a genetic freak after all.
Another point to make is that you can run a cycle or two and increase your strength drastically in very little time. Now with other skilled sports sterons will definitely help with endurance, strength, and overall athletic performance but it's not gonna make you more skilled at any sport. Except for lifting heavy ass weights.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
hopefully it helps you understand why nobody takes your sport seriously
Different people like different things, noted. How's your oiled up man thong pageant going for you?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Different people like different things, noted. How's your oiled up man thong pageant going for you?
why did you make the jump to me being a bodybuilder?

you argue like a child, completely devoid of logic
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
why did you make the jump to me being a bodybuilder?

you argue like a child, completely devoid of logic
if you crave 'logic' please see my rebuttal to your dismissal of my question above

at this point, it just seems like you are trolling
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
why did you make the jump to me being a bodybuilder?

you argue like a child, completely devoid of logic
What did I argue exactly? Assumptions aren't arguments, and my assumption was based on the fact that we are on bb.com. What sport do you compete in?
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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
Not at all. Simply because if so you would have a wealth of experience on the nuances of technique for certain lifts and ways to improve/change that based on body composition, age, etc.

You use soccer as a counter, but all in all Soccer is a very simple sport at its core. However, only a fool would assume once you learn the basics that's all you have to do. Same with powerlifting, or really most sports.

Come on man... If you don't like something that is fine and all, but don't cook up silly arguments based on your assumptions for something you know little about because of it.
Ball control, shooting and passing takes years to develop and hundreds upon hundreds of hours of practicing.

You can argue all you want that powerlifting is nuanced, ok, soccer is nuanced and they practice more. How are you going to defend yourself now lol?
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
I dont know why you have a hard time grasping this, let me reiterate once more:

-A powerlifter spends very little time practicing in the gym
-A soccer player spends far more time practing on the field than a powerlifter does in the gym

Now, which sport is harder to learn how tolearn? Soccer or powerlifting, one where you have topracticefor many hours a week, or one where you dont?

You never hear someone say that a soccer player is a genetic freak after all.
So the time spent learning something, and the time spent practicing/mastering that skill is all that matters?

You do know this isthe exact same argumentpeople put forward for why chess is a sport, right? So by this discussion chess grand mastery > all. Lol.

I hardly think soccer to powerlifting is an apples-to-apples comparison. A sport based on strategy and finesse versus a sport based on raw power? Obviously there will be different demands... They are both very simple to learn the basics (run, kick ball, defend goal, attack goal) and (pick up heavy item, put it back down) but difficult to master or perform at the highest levels...
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Your math calculations are a bit funky, buddyboyo. You're only counting time under the bar, but for other sports, you're presumably including all practice time. There is a ton of downtime in most sports; powerlifting isn't unique in that regard. There is also no reason not to include supporting work, which is the equivalent of most practice time for other sports. Finally, you're not combining time under the bar for each lift. Would you do that for other sports -- for baseball, for instance, do you have separate time counters for actually swinging at the plate (miniscule) and literally throwing a ball (also miniscule)? Is baseball not a sport because people are only literally swinging for a short period of time?
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
So the time spent learning something, and the time spent practicing/mastering that skill is all that matters?

You do know this isthe exact same argumentpeople put forward for why chess is a sport, right? So by this discussion chess grand mastery > all. Lol.

I hardly think soccer to powerlifting is an apples-to-apples comparison. A sport based on strategy and finesse versus a sport based on raw power? Obviously there will be different demands... They are both very simple to learn the basics (run, kick ball, defend goal, attack goal) and (pick up heavy item, put it back down) but difficult to master or perform at the highest levels...
Whats with your false equivalence?
A and B are sports, sport A is hard to learn at the highest level, so sport B MUST be equally as hard to learn at the highest level.

Are you beginning to realise how dumb this sounds in reality? It's like saying a PhD in theoretical physics is just as hard as getting one in sociology, simply because they are both PhD's.

I would challenge you to say that to someone whilst not feeling stupid.
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Kind of confusing how anyone can hate on powerlifting, I guess they should quit squatting, and just do leg extensions, and leg presses instead.
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Op maybe you wouldn't have such underdeveloped shoulders and chest and such small clavicles and neck in comparison to your arms and belly if you actually did compounds properly for awhile.

Powerlifting is what gives you those results different from what workouts you do now and its two completely different potential physique types.

Its ironic that you make fun of squats when thats exactly what training type you would need from a body sculpting perspective to fix your weak areas.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
Whats with your false equivalence?
A and B are sports, sport A is hard to learn at the highest level, so sport B MUST be equally as hard to learn at the highest level.

Are you beginning to realise how dumb this sounds in reality? It's like saying a PhD in theoretical physics is just as hard as getting one in sociology, simply because they are both PhD's.

I would challenge you to say that to someone whilst not feeling stupid.
Points out all the differences in the two sports... being told it is a false equivalence. OK.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo⏩
Ball control, shooting and passing takes years to develop and hundreds upon hundreds of hours of practicing.

You can argue all you want that powerlifting is nuanced, ok, soccer is nuanced and they practice more. How are you going to defend yourself now lol?
Do they practice more though? How do you know?

Your personal opinion of what constitutes training for a sport you have little experience matters little.
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