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post 1524423221 10-31-2017, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
the fact that you even think that would be a good statistic for a case like this is retarded. The average person with a hs diploma ends up working at the fukking gas station. Look at the illinois labor statistic i posted. Youre pulling in 100k no matter what you do in a union, if you become a crane operator or somwthing specialized youre pulling in twice that. If you run anything on the union board then theres more money. My friends dad is a crane operator and conductor of the training site for new apprentices and makes 250k a year. Theres money in it, way more than most white collar jobs.
The fact that you think comparing abnormally high trade salaries to most white collar jobs is even more retarded. Facts are facts. People with degrees earn more

Keep posting extreme outlier anecdotes and cherry pick your data though. Its really making your case.

My wife's friend's father owns an investment firm, has multiple degrees and is selling his second home for something bigger. List price is 2.8M. This is fun actually. I like your anecdote game.
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I live in the Northeast US, an area where the cost of living is fairly high but not NYC high. I am a contractor and business owner, who has been in the business for over 20 years. I know and socialize with a large number of contractors of all types at trade meetings and through friendships. I do not know of, or have I heard of, a single 25 year old making over 100k as a tradie. The highest amount for employees, which is usually the over 30 crowd is around 80k a year. The only people, around my area at least, making over 100k are business owners.

Making over 100k a year as a tradie business owner is not difficult if you are skilled and market yourself well.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
I'm gonna need some proof of this. Most post-graduate degree engineers don't even make that much after 5 years experience let alone as aminimum
i posted a link. But heres another one. Classes are just equipment youre qualified to operate. My buddy sits in a dump truck and listens to music and chills on his phone all day until they need him. My other friend does materials testing for local 150 as well and he works maybe 2 hours a day, plays nintendo switch the rest of it. Both of them pull in over 100k a year

http://www.cisco.org/wages5/#abt
Originally Posted By arn710⏩
The fact that you think comparing abnormally high trade salaries to most white collar jobs is even more retarded. Facts are facts. People with degrees earn more

Keep posting extreme outlier anecdotes and cherry pick your data though. Its really making case
Were talking about outliers here though. You cant compare trades to degrees and then double back and say degrees vs some random jack ass at walmart. I posted a link that tells you exactly what tradies make per hour. During the busy seasons a lot of them work a ton over overtime for 1.5x that wage and twice that wage on weekends. A 10 hour weekend shift makes them almost 1000 dollars. The average tradie no matter what with a 40 hour work week makes anywhere from 80-100k a year.

Now im not even saying degrees are worse. If youre going to go into stem youre better off, youre gonna have a higher quality life and youre not going to be exhausted all the time like a tradie. The money though is good either way and if you think otherwise you have no clue what the fukk youre talking about.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
the fact that you even think that would be a good statistic for a case like this is retarded. The average person with a hs diploma ends up working at the fukking gas station. Look at the illinois labor statistic i posted. Youre pulling in 100k no matter what you do in a union, if you become a crane operator or somwthing specialized youre pulling in twice that. If you run anything on the union board then theres more money. My friends dad is a crane operator and conductor of the training site for new apprentices and makes 250k a year. Theres money in it, way more than most white collar jobs.
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Originally Posted By smoopsy⏩
I live in the Northeast US, an area where the cost of living is fairly high but not NYC high. I am a contractor and business owner, who has been in the business for over 20 years. I know and socialize with a large number of contractors of all types at trade meetings and through friendships. I do not know of, or have I heard of, a single 25 year old making over 100k as a tradie. The highest amount for employees, which is usually the over 30 crowd is around 80k a year. The only people, around my area at least, making over 100k are business owners.

Making over 100k a year as a tradie business owner is not difficult if you are skilled and market yourself well.
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The median salary for those ten years removed from graduating from Harvard is 87k. The median salary goes down to 55k for those 10 years removed from graduating from merely a top 25 school. It's only a small percentage of people who are straight balling as a direct result of going to college. The point is that going the trade route is a reasonable option, not that one is clearly better than the other.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
Were talking about outliers here though.

The money though is good either way and if you think otherwise you have no clue what the fukk youre talking about.
Then compare outliers to outliers. If you want to go down that road, its going to be much worse than it already is for trades

Point to where I said otherwise.
Originally Posted By Heavyright⏩
The point is that going the trade route is a reasonable option, not that one is clearly better than the other.
Its a reasonable option but one is clearly better than the other

Unless you can find me a better comparison, lifetime earnings for degree holders wins every time. Look it up if you don't believe me
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Then compare outliers to outliers. If you want to go down that road, its going to be much worse than it already is for trades

Point to where I said otherwise.



Its a reasonable option but one is clearly better than the other

Unless you can find me a better comparison, lifetime earnings for degree holders wins every time. Look it up if you don't believe me
I just posted the link in my other post. Average tradie wage. 45ish an hour. Average non degree wage is like 15-20 an hour. Trades in general are an outlier for someone without a degree. You cant lump a trade in with every person without a degree, its obvious a degree is a better route generally, nobody is arguing that but thats not what the thread is about. You said average degree, average tradie. I provided examples of high level tradies showing that the journeyman wage isnt just the end of the road but regardless the average is still about 100k a year.

Here it is again.

http://www.cisco.org/wages5/#abt

If youre going to make a comparison. Make the proper comparison.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
its obvious a degree is a better route generally, nobody is arguing that
That's my whole point. No idea why you're disagreeing with me. Plenty of people ITT are arguing that's not the case

Your link is just another anecdote. I'm not sure what that's supposed to show me other than those people are well paid. Good for them. I'm sure those jobs are highly coveted since they are not the norm.
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The studies I know of compare lifetime earning for degree holders compared to ALL non degree holders who finished HS. That's irrelevant. Many people blindly go to college because of the stigma against blue collar work, this is part of what allows the tradies to make so much in the first place, there is a shortage of quality tradies and massive demand.
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In Houston the scale for HVAC is $34hr plus about $10hr in benefits which include free health insurance for the entire family. Thats around 90k without any overtime. Ttart work at 7 off at 3:30 with a company truck and gas card. 5 years free schooling. Its not a bad living.

So if you started the trade at 18 your making 90 at 23.
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lol at the tradie circlejerk in this thread

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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
That's my whole point. No idea why you're disagreeing with me. Plenty of people ITT are arguing that's not the case

Your link is just another anecdote. I'm not sure what that's supposed to show me other than those people are well paid. Good for them. I'm sure those jobs are highly coveted since they are not the norm.
thats the average trade in illinois. I cant speak for other areas but a union trade is one of the best jobs you can have out here. I was arguing with your comparison and lumping trades in with nondegree holders as a whole. I dont know what others were arguing, i should have phrased that as i cant see anybody arguing that in my last post, but i argued with what you responded to me with originally because it was wrong and i had proof to back it up. You complete 5 years of paid schooling to learn a trade, its not like you just walk in and start building stuff.
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Originally Posted By Heavyright⏩
The median salary for those ten years removed from graduating from Harvard is 87k. The median salary goes down to 55k for those 10 years removed from graduating from merely a top 25 school. It's only a small percentage of people who are straight balling as a direct result of going to college. The point is that going the trade route is a reasonable option, not that one is clearly better than the other.
Numbers like that are always misleading because people who go to schools like Harvard are normally connected or get connected in school. The actual school you go to isn't as important as the connections you have/make. Its oversold to younger people but in the real world it doesn't quite work how we are told it does.
Originally Posted By whtcoupe⏩
In Houston the scale for HVAC is $34hr plus about $10hr in benefits which include free health insurance for the entire family. Thats around 90k without any overtime. Ttart work at 7 off at 3:30 with a company truck and gas card. 5 years free schooling. Its not a bad living.

So if you started the trade at 18 your making 90 at 23.
I'm glad there are some people in here who know how much tradies make. You have to pick the right trade and you have to actually do something above general labor, but the pay escalates really quickly. And the more people send their kids to college and tell them not to do trade work, the higher the pay gets.
Originally Posted By arn710⏩
The fact that you think comparing abnormally high trade salaries to most white collar jobs is even more retarded. Facts are facts. People with degrees earn more

Keep posting extreme outlier anecdotes and cherry pick your data though. Its really making your case.

My wife's friend's father owns an investment firm, has multiple degrees and is selling his second home for something bigger. List price is 2.8M. This is fun actually. I like your anecdote game.
How much would you say the "average white collar" job pays? Because I can name dozens of positions in the tradie world that pay what I think is average white collar pay. Its supply and demand. When we find a good one we have to pay them well to keep them. You keep saying he's talking about outliers but he's really not. Guys who own their own business as a tradie is more of an outlier...I'd agree. But regular tradies are making bank brah.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
thats the average trade in illinois. I cant speak for other areas but a union trade is one of the best jobs you can have out here. I was arguing with your comparison and lumping trades in with nondegree holders as a whole. I dont know what others were arguing, i should have phrased that as i cant see anybody arguing that in my last post, but i argued with what you responded to me with originally because it was wrong and i had proof to back it up. You complete 5 years of paid schooling to learn a trade, its not like you just walk in and start building stuff.
The top end of the scale isn't where the unions inflate the pay. Its at the lower and mid levels. So you might have some low level laborer you'd pay in a non-union area $10/hour but the union demands $16-20 for the same position. I might pay my excavator operator $20-25 in an area while the union would require $30-35. The union guys tend to have much more generous overtime rules as well. So while my guys might get overtime after 40 hours during the week, a union guy might get it with anything over 8 hours in a single shift, or anything outside of 7-3:30 hours, even if its an 8 hour shift. And they'll also have double and triple pay overtime where my non union guys would get 1.5 pay. I could also work my guys on a Saturday if they don't already have their 40 without paying overtime, where as in a union they might demand double pay even if the guy didn't work a single hour that week.

Those sorts of things add up quick for union guys. But there is nothing unusual about the pay rate you listed.
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Originally Posted By wesleysh21⏩
How much would you say the "average white collar" job pays? Because I can name dozens of positions in the tradie world that pay what I think is average white collar pay. Its supply and demand. When we find a good one we have to pay them well to keep them. You keep saying he's talking about outliers but he's really not. Guys who own their own business as a tradie is more of an outlier...I'd agree. But regular tradies are making bank brah.
So you want me to post and average for white collar jobs and then you cherry pick trade positions that pay more

Do you see how stupid that is?
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
http://www.cisco.org/wages5/#abt

If youre going to make a comparison. Make the proper comparison.
Not so sure that your link is a fair comparison. That is for one union in a certain area. In order to get a better picture, it would be more beneficial to show average salary for workers throughout the US.

I have a BIL that is an electrician for a union. He does not make $45 per hour. He makes around $30 per hour, which is not bad in our area at all. But he does make a good bit in OT and makes a lot of money when he goes out of state to work on projects.
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You're right Opie...

I used to work with line guys who were younger than that who made $125k a year.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
Not so sure that your link is a fair comparison. That is for one union in a certain area. In order to get a better picture, it would be more beneficial to show average salary for workers throughout the US.

I have a BIL that is an electrician for a union. He does not make $45 per hour. He makes around $30 per hour, which is not bad in our area at all. But he does make a good bit in OT and makes a lot of money when he goes out of state to work on projects.
every union in my area pulls in that much. IL is a union state which i admit may not be the norm, either way most pull in at minimum 30 an hour which is still 70k. Theres more unions on that site, i posted that one to back up my claims about my friend in that union.
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Originally Posted By psychosylocibin⏩
lol at the tradie circlejerk in this thread

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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
So you want me to post and average for white collar jobs and then you cherry pick trade positions that pay more

Do you see how stupid that is?
You are talking about people with a specific skill. It would be stupid to post the salary of a tech guy and average it out with the guy who cleans the office or the girl who answers the phones. And that's what you'd be doing if you took "tradie jobs" and just mixed them altogether. I guess I'll call my other example "office jobs." All I'm saying is that when you actually have a skill and are decent at what you do, your pay raises very quickly in the trades. To the point where...yes...they make more than many white collar workers.

Why are you coping so hard on this one? That's what I don't get.
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Originally Posted By wesleysh21⏩
All I'm saying is that when you actually have a skill and are decent at what you do, your pay raises very quickly in the trades. To the point where...yes...they make more than many white collar workers.

Why are you coping so hard on this one? That's what I don't get.
That's not exclusive to trades. That's a general rule of thumb for life. I never argued that certain trades people can't make more than many white collar workers.

I'm not coping at all. I'm asking that anecdotes be tossed aside and accurate comparisons be made. You don't seem to understand what that encompasses
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Devil's advocate but if the MISC trade wages were true then all the multimillionaires / slumlords would be tradesmen. All you would have to do is work 15 years at those income levels and, even with a half ass mutual fund, you would be in the 1%.


People here are mistaking revenue for profit, time it gets to become a journeymen or full time on an union list, aren't including the cost of their equipment, ignore the financial illiteracy of most tradies and aren't factoring for economic downturns / early retirement. There's some real cheap ATVs and used Pickups every time construction or the oil patch slows down...
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
That's not exclusive to trades. That's a general rule of thumb for life. I never argued that certain trades people can't make more than many white collar workers.

I'm not coping at all. I'm asking that anecdotes be tossed aside and accurate comparisons be made. You don't seem to understand what that encompasses
It sounds to me like you are trying to compare someone with a skill to someone without a skill...pay wise.
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It's possible. You just have to work your fukking ass off 60+ hours a week. RIP gym time, RIP weekends, RIP social life, RIP every joint in your body by age 40, RIP liver from the inevitable alcoholism.


No thx jeff, I'll sit in my comfy desk chair, doing a couple hours of work a day and learning new skills to make the same amount.
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Originally Posted By DoYouEvenNEM⏩
Devil's advocate but if the MISC trade wages were true then all the multimillionaires / slumlords would be tradesmen. All you would have to do is work 15 years at those income levels and, even with a half ass mutual fund, you would be in the 1%.

People here are mistaking revenue for profit, time it gets to become a journeymen or full time on an union list, aren't including the cost of their equipment, ignore the financial illiteracy of most tradies and aren't factoring for economic downturns / early retirement. There's some real cheap ATVs and used Pickups every time construction or the oil patch slows down...
Its not "if" its true...its true.
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It's possible. You just have to work your fukking ass off 60+ hours a week. RIP gym time, RIP weekends, RIP social life, RIP every joint in your body by age 40, RIP liver from the inevitable alcoholism.

No thx jeff, I'll sit in my comfy desk chair, doing a couple hours of work a day and learning new skills to make the same amount.
This is the kind of stuff I keep reminding myself being a white collar guy managing tradies and seeing how much they are making.
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What I do not understand is why so many people in trades commit or try to commit suicide when we implement technological advances that eliminate their position.

I developed a solution to save a ton of money by buying specialty welders that could be operated by anyone. So a whole department of welders were let go. One committed suicide and others went to therapy (my wife is a counselor). If the occupational outlook was so bright, why did that matter?

In my job, I know I'll be replaced by software or an Indian or outsourcing of some kind so it's constant reskilling and no sad day when my boss tells me I've been replaced by an app built by a 13 year old.

If trades are so great and the money so good, why do they have such a high rate of substance abuse problems and suicide? I don't get it.
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Tradies rarely make more than $30 an hour. But neither do degree holders.

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Originally Posted By wesleysh21⏩
Its not "if" its true...its true.



This is the kind of stuff I keep reminding myself being a white collar guy managing tradies and seeing how much they are making.
Lol true. I remind myself whenever I need a contractor and get charged a couple hundred bucks for 15 minutes of caulking or inspecting my air conditioner.
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I know tradies with degrees. Just saying.
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