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post 1536956691 12-08-2017, 06:30 PM
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post 1536956961 12-08-2017, 06:35 PM
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there are actually cucks on the R/P who are defending the cop
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Hopefully the wife gets a large monetary reward in a civil suit.

It may not be the perfect punishment but it's better than nothing.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Hopefully the wife gets a large monetary reward in a civil suit.

It may not be the perfect punishment but it's better than nothing.
Fk that

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post 1536957321 12-08-2017, 06:40 PM
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Who else was like lulwut when the cop told him to keep his hands in the air at all times , then told him to crawl toward him. Dafuq?

But this dude who couldn't follow direction is ****ing dumb as ****. Neways, would have been so lolzy if he just kept his hands in the air and kept talking **** to him.
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post 1536958071 12-08-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted By fezjones⏩
Who else was like lulwut when the cop told him to keep his hands in the air at all times , then told him to crawl toward him. Dafuq?

But this dude who couldn't follow direction is ****ing dumb as ****. Neways, would have been so lolzy if he just kept his hands in the air and kept talking **** to him.
When someone is screaming like that, it's hard to think straight. You could send the average joe to boot camp and he'll forget his own name when a drill instructor is yelling at him. Now imagine someone yelling commands at you while pointing an assault rifle as well
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post 1536959941 12-08-2017, 07:17 PM
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He made a split second decision for officer safety and the safety of others in response to an imminent deadly threat. He need not wait to see the glint of steel to react in accordance with his training when lives are on the line. He didn't kill the suspect, he stopped the suspect's actions. He escorted the suspect to the ground. He discharged his duty weapon into the suspect's facial area. We can't review his decision-making in the line of duty with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. We can't play Monday morning quarterback on this one. This was hard-nosed police work no doubt, but it was a reasonable response given the totality of the circumstances. Look, the fact is this: had the suspect complied with officer's lawful commands, he would still be alive. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. The officer's actions were commendable, in fact, heroic. For all we know the suspect could have had a nuclear weapon. The officer had to account for all of his surroundings, including the possibility of armed co-conspirators or confederates preparing to strike from the shadows. The officer had to do so in the line of duty in the field, and not from the airchair where we all sit in judgment of a situation we couldn't possibly understand. Imagine if the suspect was threatening YOUR daughter, how would you react? The officer's vantage isn't the same we can see on video. How could he know the suspect was unarmed? A knife wielding attacker can travel 21 feet in a second. That's a conservative estimate. The job's not as easy as you think. I'm gonna have to say this one's justified folks.
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post 1536960561 12-08-2017, 07:28 PM
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Huge cop supporter here. That cop clearly wanted an excuse to shoot him. There's absolutely no way he actually felt threatened by him trying to pull his damn pants up.

The orders ere meant to get him to slip up. Murder, 1st degree pre-meditated. Let's not forget what he was fired for.
post 1536960681 12-08-2017, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
Here's the cop. 26yo at the time of the shooting





His rifle


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take away the uniform and the gun, he looks like the kinda of cat that would get his ass kicked, he also looks like he trys way to hard judging by tats.
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Tacticool *******. I can look at this guy and know he wouldn't be a good cop, why do people like this get hired?
Basically these ^^^^ Putting "You're Fcked" on your weapon isn't helping your case either...
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post 1536960871 12-08-2017, 07:31 PM
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post 1536960911 12-08-2017, 07:32 PM
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is he still and active police officer by anychance?
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post 1536961631 12-08-2017, 07:42 PM
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terrible judgement from the cop to ask a guy that is clearly terrified to move towards him.
post 1536962441 12-08-2017, 07:54 PM
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**** THE POLICE! that young ******* shouldn't be allowed to be a cop.
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post 1536962701 12-08-2017, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By meenman83⏩
Not watching the video however how would you react if you where in the cop's shoes? You might say I would do this, that and blah blah however you have a split second to make a discussion. What if the guy was playing coy then whipped something out and popped off a couple of shots potentially killing you and a civilian looky-lous. Not playing sides but I think people don't realize how often Tazers do not work, and if someone is waving around a fake weapon in a window expect to get your face split wide open.
The cop told him to keep his hands in the ****ing air multiple times then the guy complied. He was drunk as hell by the way. The officer THEN yells for him to crawl towards the officer. What kind of retarded order is that? The guys shorts were coming off and in his drunken stooper he went to pull them up. Also the tape wasn't allowed to be viewed by the jury.
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Originally Posted By fezjones⏩
Who else was like lulwut when the cop told him to keep his hands in the air at all times , then told him to crawl toward him. Dafuq?

But this dude who couldn't follow direction is ****ing dumb as ****. Neways, would have been so lolzy if he just kept his hands in the air and kept talking **** to him.
He had been drinking all day and complied better than most people do...Especially considering the dumbass orders given.
Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
When someone is screaming like that, it's hard to think straight. You could send the average joe to boot camp and he'll forget his own name when a drill instructor is yelling at him. Now imagine someone yelling commands at you while pointing an assault rifle as well
And you are drunk and scared out of your mind.
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**** THE POLICE! that young ******* shouldn't be allowed to be a cop.
He is no longer a cop.
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Im one of the biggest supporters of cops on here but even I have to call manslaughter on that

- no intent to murder the dude
- mistakes made by cop lead to this dudes death
- the reach back could have been taken as aggressive but really are fault of cops poor actions

Guilty of manslaughter, max sentence for stupidity probably 15 years out in 7

If the dudes completely clean no record no drugs i can roll with murder second degree 25 years but dude would have to be completely clean
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cop looks like that and is also 5'8. all you need to know
post 1536963461 12-08-2017, 08:13 PM
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idk much about law enforcement procedures by that whole ordeal looked and felt very amateur

most of the time in other scenarios I've seen like this they have the perps face away, interlace their fingers behind their head and cross their feet and then another officer comes up and cuffs the person while the first officer keeps the gun trained on the person for cover. Can't say I've ever seen this crawl to me scenario before
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Originally Posted By CommieCrusher⏩
Huge cop supporter here. That cop clearly wanted an excuse to shoot him. There's absolutely no way he actually felt threatened by him trying to pull his damn pants up.

The orders ere meant to get him to slip up. Murder, 1st degree pre-meditated. Let's not forget what he was fired for.
I'm not really an LEO nut, but someone mentioned the cops were called because the dude was pointing a pellet gun out the window, the person who called probably said the guy was pointing a gun out the window. Cops come up to this guy thinking he has a gun, guy keeps reaching behind his back of course the cops are gonna think he's reaching for a gun. Stupid ass order to tell this dude to put his arms up then crawl toward him though. Why not just tell him to lie down face first hands directly above his head, then approach him slowly while telling him not to move?
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Is this standard procedure for this kind of thing? seems like thats more of the issue than this isolated incident if so.

Also he did look like he was reaching behind his back while crawling.
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Originally Posted By LeonardShelby⏩
I'm not really an LEO nut, but someone mentioned the cops were called because the dude was pointing a pellet gun out the window, the person who called probably said the guy was pointing a gun out the window. Cops come up to this guy thinking he has a gun, guy keeps reaching behind his back of course the cops are gonna think he's reaching for a gun. Stupid ass order to tell this dude to put his arms up then crawl toward him though. Why not just tell him to lie down face first hands directly above his head, then approach him slowly while telling him not to move?
He was pointing a scoped rifle out a hotel window
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Damn

Normally I'm 100% on the side of the police, but that was hard to watch. The guy obviously shouldn't have reached down, but damn the cop so misread that. The guy was so scared. How could anyone think he was a threat in that moment
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
Damn

Normally I'm 100% on the side of the police, but that was hard to watch. The guy obviously shouldn't have reached down, but damn the cop so misread that. The guy was so scared. How could anyone think he was a threat in that moment
I've seen plenty of clips on Cops where guys act scared/act sincere/act confused and pull out a gun or run.
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Another innocent black man killed
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
That was most likely a natural reflex for him. Just like taking a piss you dont need to think to flush the toilet. If your pants start sagging you pull it up
My thoughts exactly. Not only that he was so petrified he was unable to think clearly and was bound to make mistakes drunk or not. He clearly displayed difficulty following instructions during the entire encounter.
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
That was most likely a natural reflex for him. Just like taking a piss you dont need to think to flush the toilet. If your pants start sagging you pull it up
They warned him multiple times.

The first time, sure. After that, lose the shorts.

Cops don't just roll into a situation with rifles. Have some situational awareness.
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES⏩
Not sure if repost but if it is let me know and I'll delete

I heard about this story a while ago and yesterday the footage of it got released by the judge. It's fuked up. I know there's a lot of police officers on the misc so I want to hear their opinions on how this officer handled the situation



https://youtu.be/M62Va6Ft2cw


Officer was found not guilty
Tactics were chit idk of any dept that trains to have suspects crawl to them
The instructions were very clear not to reach
The initial radio call was for a man with a gun...

Justified shooting but either its a dept training issue or he could be disciplined/fired for unauthorized tactics
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Don't know if it's been mentioned or not but the call to police was a report of the guy sticking a rifle out the window.
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