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post 1540464621 01-13-2018, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Lpenny⏩
I'm working with a very reputable dietician and he has me doing the 6 meals a day every 3 or so hours thing.
Stan affording says this is the best way
post 1540464921 01-13-2018, 02:49 AM
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There are about 1000000 other reasearch papers that show that IF has many more benefits than frequently eating for overall health

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255155/

tldr: if you constrain your eating to a maximum of a 12 hour window (9-10 hour being even better) you will be in a far better position for weight loss and muscle gain, even without exercise. Digestive enzymes, once activated by consuming food, effectively have a 12 hour timer on them, and eating past that limit causes poor insulin responses and other metabolic issues.

The only thing you're allowed to consume outside of the feeding window is water. Even black coffee/herbal tea is not allowed, as it apparently still requires digestive enzymes for your body to process.
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Not sure what iifym has to do with meal frequency...?

It does prove that IF is inferior to eating more normally as far as preservation of muscle tissue is concerned.
First, false. And second, that was a terrible summary AW.
Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
So eating less more often is good?
No, it is not. And the only people who say that are fat people.
Originally Posted By Didlid⏩
There are about 1000000 other research papers that show thatIFhas many more benefits than frequently eating for overall health
And if that's not enough, I'll testify.
The only thing you're allowed to consume outside of the feeding window is water. Even black coffee/herbal tea is not allowed, as it apparently still requires digestive enzymes for your body to process.
It is insignificant, and does not incur an insulin spike.
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Ain't nobody got time to eat 6 meals a day.
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post 1540466851 01-13-2018, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Agentdark45⏩
Ain't nobody got time to eat 6 meals a day.
Except the enhanced, who does this for a living.
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Originally Posted By Didlid⏩
if you constrain your eating to a maximum of a 12 hour window (9-10 hour being even better) you will be in a far better position for weight loss and muscle gain, even without exercise.
The following table shows how IF, as well as other popular 'diets', accomplish weight loss:



You see the pattern here?
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
The following table shows how IF, as well as other popular 'diets', accomplish weight loss:



You see the pattern here?
We're sorry, this is an incorrect (IF), answer. Please try again later.


The only pattern here is consistency in errors; and for the record, IF is NOT a diet.
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post 1540467141 01-13-2018, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
We're sorry, this is an incorrect (IF), answer. Please try again later.


The only pattern here is consistency in errors; and for the record, IF is NOT a diet.
You guys should really post this stuff in the Nutrition Forum...unless you're afraid ofactual valid studiesthat will be cited.
post 1540467521 01-13-2018, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted By JewSeeJohn⏩
my point is that when you ingest 150 grams of glucose (or that HFCS gargage), in one sitting, that sh*t is going to convert to fat for the most part, unless you're doing a 2 hour gym/cardio/f*ck session.

It's good that some people are naturally lean and can get away with it, but your average chubby person can't.

Sugar is not really meant to be consumed by people. Fruits are fine, to an extent, but even then you probably don't want to eat too many bananas, although they are great to have as a pick-me-up.

Still a long shot from sitting at night and consuming a pint of ben & jerries and 3 pop tarts, then going right ahead, and advocating that every one else do the same, all whilst you are sweating profusely, for what ever reason.
woT

if you're in a caloric deficit, you're in a caloric deficit, you're not going to gain fat from ingesting a crap ton of sugar in 1 sitting, sugar is carbs/calories @ the end of the day

same goes if you're in aslightcaloric surplus, hit your protein/fats and fill the rest with w.e macro you want, hit your micros and you're fine.

totally not saying ingesting sugar in unhealthy amounts is good for you, anything in moderation provided you got a balanced diet right?

am I missing something?





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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
this is true, lol at every weakminded ******* doing trendy diets cuz its easy and works like chit
whatever it takes brotha

edit: googled Lyle McDonald lol , he is some twink
also lol@ anyone linking these studies, none of these studies are used on bodybuilders, most are for avrg looking 170pound *******s who are "fit"
when u are 210 and most of that is muscle its very different
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post 1540468221 01-13-2018, 04:59 AM
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Wait, will I get fat eating this popcorn?
Eat the damn yolk.
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Originally Posted By beanietf2⏩
woT

if you're in a caloric deficit, you're in a caloric deficit, you're not going to gain fat from ingesting a crap ton of sugar in 1 sitting, sugar is carbs/calories @ the end of the day

same goes if you're in aslightcaloric surplus, hit your protein/fats and fill the rest with w.e macro you want, hit your micros and you're fine.

totally not saying ingesting sugar in unhealthy amounts is good for you, anything in moderation provided you got a balanced diet right?
Wrong. The only thing good about sugar is the taste. Now complex carbs is a different story. But you really don't need them.
am I missing something?
A great deal actually. Hint: it takes energy to make energy.
The body is an extremely complex organism. Although anything can be narrowed into simple terms, its a whole lot more complicated than calories in, calories out.


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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
this is true, lol at every weakminded ******* doing trendy diets cuz its easy and works like chit
whatever it takes brotha

edit: googled Lyle McDonald lol , he is some twink
also lol@ anyone linking these studies, none of these studies are used on bodybuilders, most are for avrg looking 170pound *******s who are "fit"
when u are 210 and most of that is muscle its very different
And therein lies their fundamental flaw. On the other hand, this flaw also exists when you take advice from an enhanced bb.
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post 1540468601 01-13-2018, 05:09 AM
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It is irrelevant. You can eat 5 times per day with **** tier macros. I can eat once per day hitting all my macros. Who will fare better?

Overall calories and macros are what matters. Meal timing is another myth perpetuated by the lowlifes of the supplement industry.
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Originally Posted By PKneyr⏩
It is irrelevant. You can eat 5 times per day with **** tier macros. I can eat once per day hitting all my macros. Who will fare better?

Overall calories and macros are what matters. Meal timing is another myth perpetuated by the lowlifes of the supplement industry.
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and if u eat good macros and calories 6x a day u will do better than doing it 1x a day gl with your muscle wasting goals of 2018, if u have any to waste that is
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my uncle once ate 38 times in a day and then he lost 10 pounds
it must be true and work for everyone exactly the same and youre a fukken retart if you believe otherwise
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
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and if u eat good macros and calories 6x a day u will do better than doing it 1x a day gl with your muscle wasting goals of 2018, if u have any to waste that is
You are legit the most retarded Miscer I have ever seen. I don't have an avi so I don't comment on others avis usually, but cmon brah... do you even lift? Sick pump and lighting, still look like ****.
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Originally Posted By PKneyr⏩
You are legit the most retarded Miscer I have ever seen. I don't have an avi so I don't comment on others avis usually, but cmon brah... do you even lift? Sick pump and lighting, still look like ****.
Stay mad buddy
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Originally Posted By Werke⏩
12 boxers, eating 1200 calories..
this
1200 calories? u wot m8
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Meal frequency is and isn't a myth. While ideally you wouldn't want to go a long time without eating because muscle preservation is slightly lower, it won't be a make it or break it type situation for the most part. It's a very minor effect. Calories in = calories out is the top of the pyramid, then it's macros, then micros, then frequency.

You guys are looking into the extremes of everything when arguing. Saying IIFYM means to eat a bunch of garbage and saying IF means to starve yourself when both really aren't the case.
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I just eat when I'm hungry and lift heavy and consistently..

you *******s are over complicating it
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For me at this point I don't worry about all that.

I just eat clean and err on the side of eating less than I need to.
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Originally Posted By JewSeeJohn⏩
LMFAO, I actually fell for the IIFYM garbage when I was 18/19.

By the time I'd done biochemistry, I realized that the IIFYM crowd are a band of retards, and are just following garbage advice from a bunch of 'natty' twinks that can't break 180lbs, even with all the treining and goat-whore-moaning by their side..

BRB oats and sugar are the same thing inside your body
BRB forget to mention that oats takes a while to break down,there-forthe release of glucose into blood stream is slow and steady.
BRB high blood sugar = lipogenesis = you get fat
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OK i know you shouldn't eat sugar, but what does it matter if i choose to eat two mchickens every day or a big ass homemade bacon egg and cheese bagel for breakfast????

If the rest of my diet is clean, no sugar, IIFYM, high protein....what does it matter?

Obviously you shouldn't eat sugar or a ton of sodium, but it is pretty nuts to consume nothing but clean foods for months on end. And this is coming from someone who did it for a year straight. I went a few months without even having a cheat meal and it sucked.
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
id help u add some protein ;]
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
ol@ anyone linking these studies, none of these studies are used on bodybuilders, most are for avrg looking 170pound *******s who are "fit"
AKA actual NATURAL lifters.
Originally Posted By Agentdark45⏩
Ain't nobody got time to eat 6 meals a day.
This.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
AKA actual NATURAL lifters.




This.
if u think 170pounds of some muscle tone is the natty limit your tour is over boyo
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
if u think 170pounds of some muscle tone is the natty limit your tour is over boyo
If you think that 210lbs shredded is possible natty, your tour is over boyo.

It definitely is the limit for a lot of people. I am talking 10% bodyfat shredded style 170lbs.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
i thought this is commong knowlage
i eat every 3h
iifym fad was bad but now we are in IF era which is even worse
most ppl dont realise IF is only a cutting diet(and not even a good one imo) and use IF all the time cuz its easier for them just to eat in that eating period just lol
5-8 meals is goat( depending on your size, meals and goals)
Even at work?
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