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How often did you feel bored?
Breakdown of internal thoughts throughout the experience? Percentage of negative thoughts/ideas, neutral thoughts, positive thoughts? Any difference compared to those you would have on a typical day where socializing is almost guaranteed to happen?
Energy levels any higher than usual or did you notice any changes in your energy during those ten days?
Dreams any more vivid or detailed?
Libido increased or decreased at all?
Did you exercise at all during those ten days?
Overall thoughts, and would you repeat the experience for any amount of days?
Breakdown of internal thoughts throughout the experience? Percentage of negative thoughts/ideas, neutral thoughts, positive thoughts? Any difference compared to those you would have on a typical day where socializing is almost guaranteed to happen?
Energy levels any higher than usual or did you notice any changes in your energy during those ten days?
Dreams any more vivid or detailed?
Libido increased or decreased at all?
Did you exercise at all during those ten days?
Overall thoughts, and would you repeat the experience for any amount of days?
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Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩
This is why i find it retarded. Its literally like sucking your soul away.. Thats why you dont "react" - because theres nothing there.. Its like being extremely passive - the ultimate cuck.Not sure if we're talking about the same thing. I've had derealization/depersonalization since 2013 and it was triggered by meditations. I'm detached and never really here anymore. Hard to explain and I just want to go back to how I used to be, when I was able to feel and experience. It's terrible
Like imagine someone was murdering your family - youd just be like "meh" because youre not attached - therefore you dont suffer. This is "nirvana" so they say
Unnatural too
02-25-2018, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Want to add to this. Ive explored this chit a lotThis is why i find it retarded. Its literally like sucking your soul away.. Thats why you dont "react" - because theres nothing there.. Its like being extremely passive - the ultimate cuck.
Like imagine someone was murdering your family - youd just be like "meh" because youre not attached - therefore you dont suffer. This is "nirvana" so they say
Unnatural too
Like imagine someone was murdering your family - youd just be like "meh" because youre not attached - therefore you dont suffer. This is "nirvana" so they say
Unnatural too
And when you really stop to think about it, does it not sound sinister. Like someone convincing you that your life isnt worth living?
They have this thing called the "vanishing narrative" i.e. no story. E.g. there is no "you"
Its honestly like the biggest human travesty.
Similarly imagine someone telling you theres no "you" - therefore you dont react, as they murder your family
I dont think all practicioners are like this, i just think these are the roots of a lot of meditation/ eastern philosophy.
If you look at the quality of life and advancements of western life vs. Buddhism its pretty convincing which one is more productive.
02-25-2018, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Yea but thats not "courage" imo. Courage is having the fear and facing it; that would be a lot of pressureI don't think it gets to the point where you would not react if you or someone close to you was being physically threatened
It's just that quite literally, the size of your amygdala reduces - this is what causes the decreased feelings of fear and emotional reactiveness.
You get nervous talking to hot girls? Well after meditating enough, you just stop feeling any real fear when talking to these girls, which means you can behave normally and genuinely which in my opinion, leads to better conversations with hot girls.
It's worth it, IMO
It's just that quite literally, the size of your amygdala reduces - this is what causes the decreased feelings of fear and emotional reactiveness.
You get nervous talking to hot girls? Well after meditating enough, you just stop feeling any real fear when talking to these girls, which means you can behave normally and genuinely which in my opinion, leads to better conversations with hot girls.
It's worth it, IMO
Not trying to remove yourself so you react less
02-25-2018, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted By FitSparky1⏩
i requested a chair beforehand. the only mediators in chairs were me and this guy who was 72 years old with 2 knee replacements lmao. but meditation is a practice of the mindwhat was ur meditation stance? did u sit?
Originally Posted By havoc713⏩
in theravada buddhism, you aren't allowed to charge to spread the way of meditaiton, so it was free. i donated to the organisation though, but i was surprised at how little they pressure you to donateHow much did you pay for this experience?
Don’t have to plan any activities, just enforce quiet time and only provide two cheap veggie meals? Probably to a bunch of rich yuppies?
Pure profit.
Don’t have to plan any activities, just enforce quiet time and only provide two cheap veggie meals? Probably to a bunch of rich yuppies?
Pure profit.
Originally Posted By Joseph1990⏩
bro honestly, it was too difficult to be a waste of time. you can't waste your time doing soemthing that's so ****ing hard to do. you have to adapt and improve in order to last the time.No bias opinion where you convince yourself it was not a waste of time and tell us how great it was, was it worth?
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
agree, but the reason you do the meditation in silence and in the quiet is so you can 'calm the mind' to the level where you can notice even the subtlest sensation. this is basically a pretentious way of saying you get better at noticing sensationWtf at no sunbathing. Almost all of my best meditations came while sunbathing.
Originally Posted By DetroitSnapcity⏩
to explore the mind and improve myself
Originally Posted By mythos34⏩
no to allDid you activate your third eye?
Did you see geometric patterns?
Did you see any other “beings”?
Did you see geometric patterns?
Did you see any other “beings”?
Originally Posted By sklau96⏩
lmao, i wanted to get my book from my car but i wasn't allowed. now that i'm home i feel a lot more present, concentrated and happy. but tbh. i attribute a lot of this to it being an exciting experience to tell people about. but there were a few moments today where i WOULD have got annoyed at something, but i noticed the sensation of anger and decided that it would be unproductive. the most valuable takeaway from vipassana is definitely this ability - it gives you so much more control of your mind, because you're simply more aware of it. it's so weird to think that we might not be aware of our minds but 99% of the day we aren't we're caught up in the flow of thought or emotion, and aren't introspective. this means that we can't control over them. the beginning of vipassana meditation, and maybe even the whole path, is just becoming more introspective.One of my bros did the vipassana retreat too, said was dope (although he cheated by staying in a tent outside and reading a book time to time LOL).
Might do it this summer or whenever I'm free, heard its life changing.
What were the main benefits and things you learnt/got out of it brah?
Might do it this summer or whenever I'm free, heard its life changing.
What were the main benefits and things you learnt/got out of it brah?
also it's like i've unlocked another dimension to life noticing my sensations in mundane things like turning on the tap or typing. we very rarely focus on sensations but it's actually enriching.
lastly doing something that mentally difficult and overcoming negative thought taught me a ****load about regulating my own mind to get the best outcome out of life
Originally Posted By Diabolous⏩
actually completing it after wanting to bitch it for the entire first half of the courseWhat was the most gratifying aspect of your experience?
Originally Posted By zarathu5tra⏩
nope i fapped my way through the course. it is very hard but i'm sure if you developed an interest for it and saw the value you could get through it too. it is extremely difficult as a westerner though.How do you feel?
Your dopamine receptors must be restored making you way more sensitive to everything.
Couldn't pull that off I think. Sounds extremely difficult.
Your dopamine receptors must be restored making you way more sensitive to everything.
Couldn't pull that off I think. Sounds extremely difficult.
Originally Posted By Foreverbulker⏩
tumultuoushow would you describe your experience?
would you do it again, but longer than 10 days?
would you do it again, but longer than 10 days?
yes
Originally Posted By ThaJerzeyDevil⏩
lolsso did u have to fill out what u want for breakfast lunch and dinner on a card before u took a vow of silences or did your spirit animal pick your meals based on mood
Originally Posted By Fuqdatass⏩
lmfaoYet you’re back here. Couldn’t have been that inspiring.
Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩
patience young padawanAre you going to answer any of the fukin questions or did you just take another vow of silence ?
Originally Posted By SazabiBrah⏩
i ate a fukload and smuggled in whey protonz, so not that much. also did push ups and planks in my room every day and used my bag as a weight for curls (srs)how much muscle did you lose?
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02-25-2018, 12:47 AM
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Was it worth it?
Do you have a better understanding of yourself or your consciousness?
Do you have a better appreciation for life, and what you have?
Do you have a better understanding of yourself or your consciousness?
Do you have a better appreciation for life, and what you have?
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02-25-2018, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
the mind is absolutely fascinatingSounds incredibly boring.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
it's not for everyone bro, it's a very intense practice. maybe you could just do anapana meditation (focusing on your breath)It sounds scary to me. I've tried meditation and experienced depersonalization and derealization feelings/thoughts and detachment. Scared me and I stopped doing it.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
i was terrified, i was so scared of going insane from the retreat, i had read so many stores of it causing psychiatric problems in people. also other stories that it was like a cult. this made the first 5 days unbearable but some how i got through themDid you experience depersonalization/derealization?
Were you afraid?
Did you feel like you were losing your mind?
Pls respond
Were you afraid?
Did you feel like you were losing your mind?
Pls respond
Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
mainly just miscers, everyone there was really cool and intelligent. we had the best philosophical discussions after the course. it was like we were all best friends even though we had never talked to each other before. it's a great religious experience in a social sense, you don't have to believe any bullchit to do it thoughi think the not talking to people would be therapeutic enough. people talk about the most cuckening things
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
90% of people have that problem. you work up to meditating for a total of 3 hours a day of 'strong determination' sitting, where you have to sit completely still.I have a hard time meditating for more than 10 minutes, let alone consistently everyday
Originally Posted By keepitnatty⏩
that's true. i don't have any past traumas, though you get crazily emotional. i really don't recommend it to anyone who is unstable. i think of myself as a pretty stable person and my thoughts were absolutely fukt, i couldn't control them at all for days 1-4. i had nothing to do but just sit there as my mind wound up and down about stupid chit like how i missed my gf so much, how i just left her without any contact, how i can't leave because i'll regret it forever. time seemed like infinity and it was super painful tbh lol.I heard this bad for a beginner since our subconscious stores unpleasant memories and repressed feelings so when u meditate for a very long time they might rise to the surface to fast for u to process leaving u more distress than when u came and even people offing themselves because they couldn’t handle it
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jsut finished a research project a few days before i leftDo you not have a job?
Originally Posted By Antonio519⏩
wasn't for me, you don't have to pay anything if you don't want to though.sounds like a waste of time and money
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02-25-2018, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Ok, i can agree. There are lots of forms of meditation and different practices, so hard to talk about it tbh.Most of the time, fear is something that we create within our minds because we think about the consequences of our actions.
What if I talk to her and ask her out, and she calls me ugly? Or she laughs at me? Or she spreads rumors about me?
What if I give a speech in front of 1000 people and they all boo me off the stage?
etc
Most things that the majority of us do in our day to day lives don't require courage, they just require presence. Presence is being purely focused on what you're doing.
For example, a year back I had to give a presentation with the key players in my consulting team to a fortune 100 client that we've been working for - this audience was filled with people very high up on the food chain. I was so scared the night before while rehearsing, and seconds before the presentation when it was my turn to speak, my heart was beating so hard that I felt other people could hear it.
I was purely focused in the future about how I would fuk it all up.
But once I started talking, all my fear went away. I was purely present - there was an absence of thought because I couldn't think, I could only perform. This is where meditation shines, IMO. It keeps you in this state of mind all the time - purely present and not focused on stuff that happened years ago, or stuff that may happen years from the present moment.
What if I talk to her and ask her out, and she calls me ugly? Or she laughs at me? Or she spreads rumors about me?
What if I give a speech in front of 1000 people and they all boo me off the stage?
etc
Most things that the majority of us do in our day to day lives don't require courage, they just require presence. Presence is being purely focused on what you're doing.
For example, a year back I had to give a presentation with the key players in my consulting team to a fortune 100 client that we've been working for - this audience was filled with people very high up on the food chain. I was so scared the night before while rehearsing, and seconds before the presentation when it was my turn to speak, my heart was beating so hard that I felt other people could hear it.
I was purely focused in the future about how I would fuk it all up.
But once I started talking, all my fear went away. I was purely present - there was an absence of thought because I couldn't think, I could only perform. This is where meditation shines, IMO. It keeps you in this state of mind all the time - purely present and not focused on stuff that happened years ago, or stuff that may happen years from the present moment.
If youre talking about fully enculcating yourself in the moment then i agree.
However would you say they work on "detachment"?
If i described to you attachment vs. Detachment
And then asked you to describe facing something vs. Running away.. Which of the aforementioned "presences" fit with the latter (attachment and facing or detachment and running away)
I know most, if not all, meditation centers around "nirvana" and nirvana is supposed to be the ultimate detachment
It makes sense really. Remove yourself from all of these things (wordly possessions, relationships, etc. - go in the mountains in silence not around anything, etc.)
And youre blissfully unresponsible because youve removed yourself from any pressures/ attachments - "nirvana"
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Dont agree with the "thoughts are useless"I think you are associating meditation with buddhism which is fair, but for most people who pick up meditation, they are not looking to pick up Buddhism along with it.
The purpose of meditation is to simply detach yourself from your thoughts. Thoughts occupy a large amount of our time/emotional energy and are ultimately, useless.
Meditation as a means of detachment from physical objects or relationships is not the intention, in my opinion. That's more of a Buddhism philosopy.
The purpose of meditation is to simply detach yourself from your thoughts. Thoughts occupy a large amount of our time/emotional energy and are ultimately, useless.
Meditation as a means of detachment from physical objects or relationships is not the intention, in my opinion. That's more of a Buddhism philosopy.
If you had no thoughts you wouldnt do anything
Also, i edited a bit into my previous post. Ironically (or not) "not doing anything" and isolating yourself in the mountains seems to fit
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Think youre describing mindfulnessI think you are associating meditation with buddhism which is fair, but for most people who pick up meditation, they are not looking to pick up Buddhism along with it.
The purpose of meditation is to simply detach yourself from your thoughts. Thoughts occupy a large amount of our time/emotional energy and are ultimately, useless. Without thoughts, we become present.
It's something you have to consciously notice in your day to day life - for example, I like to hand wash my dishes since the dishwasher makes them slightly smell. When I handwash, I try to stay focused on the water, soap, and cleaning the fork/spoon/dish. However, many times, thoughts will creep into my head and the next thing I know, I'm thinking about something completely irrelevant to what I'm doing, such as my boss, or how I can get revenge on someone, etc. Meditation would allow me to be focused purely on the task at hand.
The effect of this is that over time, you think less and less of these useless thoughts. Over a lifetime, you spend YEARS on useless thoughts. It's meant to improve the overall quality of your life when you remove them.
Meditation as a means of detachment from physical objects or relationships is not the intention, in my opinion. That's more of a Buddhism philosopy.
The purpose of meditation is to simply detach yourself from your thoughts. Thoughts occupy a large amount of our time/emotional energy and are ultimately, useless. Without thoughts, we become present.
It's something you have to consciously notice in your day to day life - for example, I like to hand wash my dishes since the dishwasher makes them slightly smell. When I handwash, I try to stay focused on the water, soap, and cleaning the fork/spoon/dish. However, many times, thoughts will creep into my head and the next thing I know, I'm thinking about something completely irrelevant to what I'm doing, such as my boss, or how I can get revenge on someone, etc. Meditation would allow me to be focused purely on the task at hand.
The effect of this is that over time, you think less and less of these useless thoughts. Over a lifetime, you spend YEARS on useless thoughts. It's meant to improve the overall quality of your life when you remove them.
Meditation as a means of detachment from physical objects or relationships is not the intention, in my opinion. That's more of a Buddhism philosopy.
Honestly i dont see how mindfulness and detachment fit.
Mindfulness sounds like being fully engrossed and egoic, its just that your ego is fully preoccupied with itself. Therefore other things unimportant
Whereas detachment imo - is removing yourself from the situation/ running away - therefore you dont react.
Anyways man, i like what youre describing and it sounds good for you. So keep doing it i guess
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Originally Posted By IronILLinois⏩
chicken, spoke to one of the meditators and felt like i was drunk or something. it is so weird because you realise that words just flop out of your mouth and it feels like nothing is occuring in consciousness while you're speaking, maybe that's just because it's so hard to focus on what is occuring while ur speaking but idk. i was kind of mindblown at how i even manage to string a sentence together, given how automated the process seems when you pay attention.what was the first thing you ate when you got out?
first person you spoke to and how that interaction went down?
first person you spoke to and how that interaction went down?
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tonnes actually, why is this?How many people had man-buns OP?
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absolutelyDid you FAP?
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not at all unfortunatelydid you lose your sex drive during this time ?
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Interesting, have actually looked up some silent retreats down in Margaret River and might give it a go toward the end of the year
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I'm still undecided as to whether it's a complete waste of time for someone like me who has no anger management issues (this seems to be the kind of person who benefits the most from meditation) and usually have my emotions in check. Or I could just be telling myself that because I'm too lazy to sit down every day for 20 minutes in silence. I'd rather just play my guitar to be honest.
I mean, you said there's joy in turning on a tap and typing... really?
I mean, you said there's joy in turning on a tap and typing... really?
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Very well put. But I think even without meditation you would've nailed the speaking part as it's difficult to think about the future whilst you're performing such a difficult task.But once I started talking, all my fear went away. I was purely present - there was an absence of thought because I couldn't think, I could only perform. This is where meditation shines, IMO. It keeps you in this state of mind all the time - purely present and not focused on stuff that happened years ago, or stuff that may happen years from the present moment.
I agree about it allowing you to worry less, though.
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass⏩
Tom cruise laughing.gifYet you’re back here. Couldn’t have been that inspiring.
The fact he came back here is evidence he didnt learn a god damn thing
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Originally Posted By Kuzon⏩
then why did you request a chair? Part of meditating is that discomfort from being in a meditative stance, and moving beyond that, or accepting it for what it is in that present momentagree, but the reason you do the meditation in silence and in the quiet is so you can 'calm the mind' to the level where you can notice even the subtlest sensation. this is basically a pretentious way of saying you get better at noticing sensation
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Strongest username to thread content evermy god youre an idiot if you seriously did this
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