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post 1553597891 06-11-2018, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By melDorado⏩
Srsly though maybe more insecure people should lift as it definitely gives self confidence...to be fit and strong if nothing else feels good.



If i ever get tested im banned anyway for that performance enhancer i use to improve my sleep and appetite nomsayin..

Idgaf ill just go non tested fed
The endorphins alone from lifting are enough to carry most people through their days when feeling down imo

lol been a while since I had one of those "cheat" days where I stuff my face nomsayin
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
Ironic coming from a highly autistic and low income miscer.
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Originally Posted By lawsfallmute⏩
Lack of meaningful sex, and a connection to their partner and friends/family is more like it.
Can confirm. Haven't had much sex in years and i'm a beta *******. I just feel like i'm not worthy to be in a woman's presence anymore. When i was getting laid i felt like a king.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Can confirm. Haven't had much sex in years and i'm a beta *******. I just feel like i'm not worthy to be in a woman's presence anymore. When i was getting laid i felt like a king.
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post 1553599891 06-11-2018, 03:56 PM
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For me it's social anxiety and never have been in a meaningful relationship
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Egocentricity
I think lack of ego is a bigger problem tbh.

I guess it's a catch 22
post 1553600561 06-11-2018, 04:03 PM
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Having been around since 05 i see a few common themes.
1. no BB or lifting focus which builds confidence.
2. no social skills but good at technology.
3. fear of anything or anyone that looks different.
4. no BB or lifting which builds confidence.
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ugly and not getting girls and then turning to lifting is my guess
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
I disagree in a number of cases

egocentric
Pronunciation /หŒษ›ษกษ™(สŠ)หˆsษ›ntrษชk//หŒiหษกษ™(สŠ)หˆsษ›ntrษชk/

ADJECTIVE

1Thinking only of oneself, without regard for the feelings or desires of others; self-centred.
โ€˜egocentric loners with an overinflated sense of self-worthโ€™
More example sentencesSynonyms
1.1 Centred in or arising from a person's own individual existence or perspective.
โ€˜egocentric spatial perceptionโ€™
I think lack of ego is passivity, laziness, not getting what you want

Whereas egoism is taking the bull by the horns and doing it yourself

Imo, being more chill is having needs met and having accomplished something = ego

I actually know what no ego is like, it's pretty much the elimination of desire. And MAYBE more happy but only happy in the sense that you don't care about anything. So, therefore what would there be to get upset about?

It's blissful but simultaneously disgusting

But like I said, I do also see problems with extreme egoism. I just think a stronger ego will be more accomplished

E.g. Houstonmiscer going out and getting laid vs. staying online
post 1553601721 06-11-2018, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Egocentric people are far more likely to suffer existential angst than those with normalised sense of self
I mean you can go down that Buddhist route if you want. Look up "ruthlesstruth" or "liberation unleashed" if you want

Imo the west and east are polar opposites. Ones about wealth and power and prestige and the other is about non-attachment and renouncing worldly possessions.

But like i said I think a lack of ego is a lack of accomplishment. And then you get pissed and start chit because you don't have x. Whereas strong ego goes out and gets x so has nothing to be upset about

It's a hard middle ground to find, which is perhaps why it creates good discussion
post 1553603981 06-11-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
I mean you can go down that Buddhist route if you want. Look up "ruthlesstruth" or "liberation unleashed" if you want

Imo the west and east are polar opposites. Ones about wealth and power and prestige and the other is about non-attachment and renouncing worldly possessions.

But like i said I think a lack of ego is a lack of accomplishment. And then you get pissed and start chit because you don't have x. Whereas strong ego goes out and gets x so has nothing to be upset about

It's a hard middle ground to find, which is perhaps why it creates good discussion
I agree that ego is not necessarily bad, but to a certain point which I think is what you're saying. Ego is a tool that can give us desire and motivation to push ourselves farther and to greater accomplishments. But ego starts to become bad once you start to become arrogant and selfish.

In a spiritual sense it could be different. I've heard of people taking psychedelics and having their ego "die" which gave them great peace and clarity. I'm not very spiritual so I don't know, but I try to keep an open mind.
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Originally Posted By BbyGainz⏩
Growing up being praised for doing the bare minimum as kids and then once they got older they realized they were just average.
This. Also their parents were admittedly more "friends" than parents.
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu⏩
Interestingly enough, one of the only proven correlation (not necessarily causation) to lower sperm count is smoking or secondhand smoke during pregnancy. If we assume this suggests causation or partial causation of low sperm count, that means men are essentially born with low sperm count nowadays. So you guys that have wives who smoke, or smoke around your pregnant wife, need to cut that crap or youโ€™re sentencing yourself to having girly sons.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Can confirm. Haven't had much sex in years and i'm a beta *******. I just feel like i'm not worthy to be in a woman's presence anymore. When i was getting laid i felt like a king.
You just don't see your own power anymore. Your situation has clouded your perception. For your own sake I hope you try to remedy this.
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Pretty most people start lifting because they're insecure. We come here for advice on how to improve ourselves and for some it works. It has been great for my life. For others, the advice is amazing but the forum is filled with people that are so insecure and negative that they don't want to help others, they'd rather use other people's insecurities to make them feel better about themselves. It's a never ending circle unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By Amrit90⏩
Pretty most people start lifting because they're insecure. We come here for advice on how to improve ourselves and for some it works. It has been great for my life. For others, the advice is amazing but the forum is filled with people that are so insecure and negative that they don't want to help others, they'd rather use other people's insecurities to make them feel better about themselves. It's a never ending circle unfortunately.
Good insight.
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A lot of bodybuilders are. Especially the type of ones who engage in social activites on forums. Honestly though i think its cool in its own way. A new meta we all fking losers together haha. We all gonna make it
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Theyre caught in a hivemind of idealism and lose sight of what actually happens in the real world and make mountains out of nothing because they dont have x or dont have y.
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
I've heard of people taking psychedelics and having their ego "die" which gave them great peace and clarity. I'm not very spiritual so I don't know, but I try to keep an open mind.
Si. If you look into it more people also say it was the most harrowing experience of their life

Jung said that ego death was the "great death" and regular death is actually smaller. Because believe it or not most of our communication comes from the voice in our head

I had it happen sober. (I didnt want it)

It was by far the worst experience of my life. The only people that i could see it helping are those who hate themselves (i didnt). And want to start fresh. Idk how to explain but i legit felt like a baby. Everything was new

Simultaneously, i didnt feel stressed at all, but again, thats because you didnt want anything. It was like 24/7 contentment but kind of disgusting in that way; you should have a reason to be content. It was like you could be revelling in a pile of chit but it didnt matter

They ego also evolved as it did to aid us in survival and to warn us; rolling around in chit is not good. It helps us distinguish good and bad, right vs. Wrong, good vs. Evil, etc.

I went from a straight a, doing chitloads of stuff, 4.0 gpa in college. To not doing chit, gaining weight and failing out of classes

If you look into that buddhist chit their monks renounce all possessions, go to a life of solitude, forego sex and stay in the mountains all day staring at walls.

Perhaps because my life was so in order is what made it so bad, but the egolessness caused a lot of problems imo.

Imo ego = order
Egolessness = disorder

A lot of societal problems could prob be boiled down to egolessness. But i GUESS you could spend your life trying to deny it, which would take every second of your life vs. Trying to embrace it

One is much more conducive toward constructivism and one is more deconstructive

ALSO, if you eat (necessary) i 100% believe it requires ego. So, if you do eat and believe in no ego, you are a hypocrite
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apparently everyone ITT thinks their a psychology major now fukin LOL. I promise you don't know anything or anyone on this website from a few messageboard posts.

my god the answers in this thread are so psuedo intellectual, stop trying so hard
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Originally Posted By Viribus7⏩
Because they live vicariously through the lives of other's online persona's.
Would agree with this. A lot of people post about their Tinder hookups and I'm sure the men who aren't so lucky take it personal.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Si. If you look into it more people also say it was the most harrowing experience of their life

Jung said that ego death was the "great death" and regular death is actually smaller. Because believe it or not most of our communication comes from the voice in our head

I had it happen sober.

It was by far the worst experience of my life. The only people that i could see it helping are those who hate themselves (i didnt). And want to start fresh. Idk how to explain but i legit felt like a baby. Everything was new

Simultaneously, i didnt feel stressed at all, but again, thats because you didnt want anything. It was like 24/7 contentment but kind of disgusting in that way; you should have a reason to be content. It was like you could be revelling in a pile of chit but it didnt matter

They ego also evolved as it did to aid us in survival and to warn us; rolling around in chit is not good. It helps us distinguish good and bad, right vs. Wrong, good vs. Evil, etc.

I went from a straight a, doing chitloads of stuff, 4.0 gpa in college. To not doing chit, gaining weight and failing out of classes

If you look into that buddhist chit their monks renounce all possessions, go to a life of solitude, forego sex and stay in the mountains all day staring at walls.

Perhaps because my life was so in order is what made it so bad, but the egolessness caused a lot of problems imo.

Imo ego = order
Egolessness = disorder

A lot of societal problems could prob be boiled down to egolessness. But i GUESS you could spend your life trying to deny it, which would take every second of your life vs. Trying to embrace it

One is much more conducive toward constructivism and is more deconstructive

ALSO, if you eat (necessary) i 100% believe it requires ego. So, if you do eat and believe in no ego, you are a hypocrite
How did you experience ego death while sober? I don't think that's possible unless you've practiced years as a Buddhist monk. From the way you described how you felt it sounds more like depression than loss of ego. And if you let your thoughts cause you anxiety, you still have an ego.

Ego loss is described as peace of mind and clarity, so materialism, money, and competition is not important. Eating is a necessity, nothing to do with ego. Western society promotes the ego because it pushes materialism, competition, and money as importance. Western society has constructed itself where the ego is necessary in order to survive.
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