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post 1559749541 08-26-2018, 02:59 PM
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i like how logic turned into a cry baby rapper

i remember when he was barely making music and it was all about weed (i had him on myspace lol)



There are "good" rappers out there, but they are not famous or promoted for obvious reasons. There is a globalist force thats larger than all of us pushing femininity among men. Not sure why, but its gotta be bad
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Originally Posted By GrammarNaziM8
If the subject of the discussion is the values that hip hop promotes they've stayed the same, brah.
Rappers talked about money, sloots and drugs in the 90's and the same thing is talked about today.
Nothing has changed
DMC (the dude in the video) was a rapper in the 80s, and likely was referring to the gangsta rap domination of hip hop since the mid 90s.

Even Tupac started out a generally conscious rapper in the early 90s, and ended up a typical Gangsta rapper by time he died.

DMC literally refers to 80s rappers as examples of the things that are needed in modern rap.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
DMC (the dude in the video) was a rapper in the 80s, and likely was referring to the gangsta rap domination of hip hop since the mid 90s.

Even Tupac started out a generally conscious rapper in the early 90s, and ended up a typical Gangsta rapper by time he died.

DMC literally refers to 80s rappers as examples of the things that are needed in modern rap.
Yeah, I would say it honestly started to take a turn in the early 90s and started to be really popularized, at least on the east coast. I think the West Coast been doing it for awhile. You still had NWA in the 80s rapping about gangsta culture and violence. Geto Boys, Ice T, etc. Kool G always rapped about gangsta/mafia culture and he was on the east. Tupac was generally a more consious rapper earlier but he has a controversial song about shooting up cops that made it into the mainstream media even back then in 91'. My point is that it's always kind of been a part of rap culture and hip-hop as a whole. In the late 70s and early 80s started out as sort of party records and what not but even since the mid 80s you've always seen "gangsta" culture as a motif in rap music. Some people weren't necessarily glorifying it but used it as more of a storytelling/expression of their life kind of piece.

But I would say it's been a part of hip-hop really ever since the mid 80s. Popularized heavily in the 90s, kind of died off in the late 00s.
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Originally Posted By sooby
But I would say it's been a part of hip-hop really ever since the mid 80s. Popularized heavily in the 90s, kind of died off in the late 00s.
I agree it's always been a part of hip hop since the 80s, however - like we agree it seems - it didn't dominate.

Even DMC in the video says that gangsta rap was around in his time, but there was more diversity in the mainstream. Nowadays the mainstream seems dominated by gangsta rap.

Like he says, nowadays the overwhelming majority of videos and songs are about a handful of topics; violence, drugs, sex, and materialism.
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uhm nothing..Drake is still on his path to surpassing Lil Wayne as the G.O.A.T.

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Originally Posted By GrammarNaziM8
Sure buddy. Learn to read first. Complaining=/= opinions.
And you are not 100% correct. If you don't like new rappers GOOD FOR YOU. But there are people who like it and let them enjoy it.
Pretty sure people in 2003 said the same thing you are saying now just lol.
You can keep listening to britney spears till you're 80
lol wut? so complaining isn't an expression of an opinion to you?, wow more young millennial nonsense.
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I can't even remember the best album I listened to this year, because they've all been pretty forgettable.

Same with the last few years tbh, with a handful of exceptions.
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Originally Posted By gluon
lol wut? so complaining isn't an expression of an opinion to you?, wow more young millennial nonsense.
Only thing I see in your posts is complaints.
Not surprised, oldcels are known to complain about everything
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
It's not about quality, it's about the promoted values.

Pusha T raps about being a rich violent career criminal.

Royce Da 5 9 raps about being a violent career criminal (literally raps about shooting people).

I am aware that some of the names you presented do conscious rap.

Edit: Just googled, and apparently Nipsey Hustle is a phuckin Crip!

People (like you) seem to be posting based on the thread title alone.
Popular/Mainstream Hip Hop has always promoted poor values. You're a fukin idiot if you think otherwise. Is it getting progressively worse with time? Yes, but so is everything in the west. Its whats selling nowadays. I can literally name, 20+ rappers off the top of my head who promote good values who's music is objectively better than what the mainstream is putting out but that doesnt get any air time.
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[QUOTE=IronILLinois post_id=1559752221]uhm nothing..Drake is still on his path to surpassing Lil Wayne as the G.O.A.T.

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Originally Posted By flexnation
Popular/Mainstream Hip Hop has always promoted poor values. You're a fukin idiot if you think otherwise.
Srs question.

You think that 80s hip hop was dominated by rapper's promoting poor values?

I think the scene was pretty diverse in the 80s. Though I'm 34 and I didn't grow up listening to rap in that era, I listened to hip hop in the 90s.

You're 25, so I'm curious what you are basing that on.
Is it getting progressively worse with time? Yes, but so is everything in the west. Its whats selling nowadays.
Fair point.
I can literally name, 20+ rappers off the top of my head who promote good values who's music is objectively better than what the mainstream is putting out but that doesnt get any air time.
Yeah, DMC basically says that too.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Srs question.

You think that 80s hip hop was dominated by rapper's promoting poor values?

I think the scene was pretty diverse in the 80s. Though I'm 34 and I didn't grow up listening to rap in that era, I listened to hip hop in the 90s.

You're 25, so I'm curious what you are basing that on.



Fair point.



Yeah, DMC basically says that too.
It depends on what you consider "poor values." Compared to what we see is popular today, Hip Hop in the 80s was rated PG compared to the R rated shyt we hear now. I wont say it was dominated by rappers promoting poor values, but poor values were absolutely being rapped about.

Overall, I think we agree with each other. My first post ITT was after I had skimmed the thread and assumed the convo was about the lack of quality music, not the substance behind the music.
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honestly I don't think its an oldcel, newcel thing

I'm only 26, so I grew up mostly knowing what was hot in the 00s and experiencing that kind of music when it was first released. I still preferred alot of the music from the 90s although in the 00s artists were still dropping really good albums and I did like a lot of music in that era too.

I just can't get down with the whole mumble rap thing or imagine how anybody could like that garbage srs. Would rather listen to some 80s hits even though I wasn't even born in that era. But it's w/e it's what people are into so I just don't really care. But I digress. Carry on laddies.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood
The oldheads are the equivalent of the senior citizens who miss the good ol' days, who constantly ask "what happened to this country", who complain about millenials, who hate technology, etc.

Things change. Adapt or get left behind. We'd have an equal amount of complainers if artists kept pumping out 2002 era gangsta rap non-stop.

If anything, the popularity of the soundcloud/mumble generation is evidence for gender actually being a social construct. Notice how male rappers have redefined what "male attractiveness" is, and how masculinity has completely gone out the window. Y'all think they pussies, but their bitches clearly don't.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2020's were the crossdressing era of rap.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Rap hasn't been good since The Eminem Show was released
lol as always you're delusional as fuk, i could easily name at least 20 good albums that have been released since that album came out
Originally Posted By sooby
honestly I don't think its an oldcel, newcel thing

I'm only 26, so I grew up mostly knowing what was hot in the 00s and experiencing that kind of music when it was first released. I still preferred alot of the music from the 90s although in the 00s artists were still dropping really good albums and I did like a lot of music in that era too.

I just can't get down with the whole mumble rap thing or imagine how anybody could like that garbage srs. Would rather listen to some 80s hits even though I wasn't even born in that era. But it's w/e it's what people are into so I just don't really care. But I digress. Carry on laddies.
80s music sucks. the beats are absolute garbage. you need both lyrics and beats to do well. even then the lyrics back then weren't that good either


i still enjoy non lyrical stuff though
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Originally Posted By WorldClassDBag
80s music sucks. the beats are absolute garbage.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood
The oldheads are the equivalent of the senior citizens who miss the good ol' days, who constantly ask "what happened to this country", who complain about millenials, who hate technology, etc.

Things change. Adapt or get left behind. We'd have an equal amount of complainers if artists kept pumping out 2002 era gangsta rap non-stop.

If anything, the popularity of the soundcloud/mumble generation is evidence for gender actually being a social construct. Notice how male rappers have redefined what "male attractiveness" is, and how masculinity has completely gone out the window. Y'all think they pussies, but their bitches clearly don't.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2020's were the crossdressing era of rap.
Old heads ? The same as senior citizens ? Complaining ?

Face it you dumb **** modern mainstream rap has become a brainless pile of garbage
There is no intelligent social discussion like there used to be . There are no advice about anything and all it does is push young males to be more feminine

Just look at the "gangster" scene nowdaysit's a bunch of guys wearing tight little clothes with man purses with pant hanging below their ass

Music labels don't allow you to rap about intellegent things and if you listen to what's on the radio , that makes you double stupid since the artist " knows" that whaybhe sings is corrupted garbage to program you to the liking of big corporations and you gobble it up , while he is faking about liking is ****

You sound like those paid shills that go on social to spam the new social programming
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Originally Posted By dunnie
Old heads ? The same as senior citizens ? Complaining ?

Face it you dumb **** modern mainstream rap has become a brainless pile of garbage
There is no intelligent social discussion like there used to be . There are no advice about anything and all it does is push young males to be more feminine

Just look at the "gangster" scene nowdaysit's a bunch of guys wearing tight little clothes with man purses with pant hanging below their ass

Music labels don't allow you to rap about intellegent things and if you listen to what's on the radio , that makes you double stupid since the artist " knows" that whaybhe sings is corrupted garbage to program you to the liking of big corporations and you gobble it up , while he is faking about liking is ****

You sound like those paid shills that go on social to spam the new social programming
Sorry I can't take anyone seriously who complains like bich.
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Originally Posted By dunnie
Face it you dumb **** modern mainstream rap has become a brainless pile of garbage
There is no intelligent social discussion like there used to be . There are no advice about anything and all it does is push young males to be more feminine

Just look at the "gangster" scene nowdaysit's a bunch of guys wearing tight little clothes with man purses with pant hanging below their ass
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Originally Posted By WorldClassDBag
lol as always you're delusional as fuk, i could easily name at least 20 good albums that have been released since that album came out


80s music sucks. the beats are absolute garbage. you need both lyrics and beats to do well. even then the lyrics back then weren't that good either


i still enjoy non lyrical stuff though
You don't need lyrics to do well. The turn of the century has proved that. You can mumble rap your way to billboard 100. Not hating on it, it's just a different time and is what's hot right now and what the people want. Just like whatever was hot in the 80s. 80s music was pretty damn good IMO, your opinion against mine, you don't like it, i do, you like mumble rap, it's not my cup of tea, whatever. 99% of music doesn't age well so it's unfair to criticize something 30 years ago on today's standards, it was great for its time and plenty of people enjoyed it (and some people still enjoy it). Just like how fashion comes and goes.
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Originally Posted By IronILLinois
uhm nothing..Drake is still on his path to surpassing Lil Wayne as the G.O.A.T.

Lol kill yourself
Only reason he's on the radio is because his music has been approved to be played on air by the higher powers that's want to bring down your iq and values

And as the the years passes by the quality of the product keeps diminishing

And lol Wayne was there 15 years before carried by birdman, the guy assigned to bring down the lyrical
Content away from important social issues or any kind of intelligent conversation ...so you get the picture
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Originally Posted By dunnie
Lol kill yourself
Only reason he's on the radio is because his music has been approved to be played on air by the higher powers that's want to bring down your iq and values

And as the the years passes by the quality of the product keeps diminishing

And lol Wayne was there 15 years before carried by birdman, the guy assigned to bring down the lyrical
Content away from important social issues or any kind of intelligent conversation ...so you get the picture
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uhm nothing..Drake is still on his path to surpassingLil Wayneasthe G.O.A.T.
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Originally Posted By dunnie
Lol kill yourself
Only reason he's on the radio is because his music has been approved to be played on air by the higher powers that's want to bring down your iq and values

And as the the years passes by the quality of the product keeps diminishing

And lol Wayne was there 15 years before carried by birdman, the guy assigned to bring down the lyrical
Content away from important social issues or any kind of intelligent conversation ...so you get the picture
You missed me with this dumb sht
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