I dont think it should be legal to own one. Most of the people that cant control them are poor. A $2,000 registration fee with a training course would end some of the issue.

/\ lol ratfish

Difference is that lions are relatively smart while pitbulls are dum fuks, good luck “bluffing” a retard dog

breed of peace and piss

sick of religious fkn moronsthe better place is on earth with family. not on some fkn fairytale cloud.

what is not captured....Pits owned by low class irresponsible trash are more likely to be involved in a fatal bite.

I'm not arguing they aren't dangerous dogs. Any dog with muscle mass and a capable jaw is dangerous. I"m just saying there are more factors than "breed of piss" as to why dogs attack, but people on here are ready to start a fukin witch hunt for all pitbulls and pitbull owners based off one statistic that doesn't take into account location, owner info, whether the dog was leashed, stray, rabid, whatever. Y'all are ready to put ME down over a dog I own who has never attacked, received professional training, has a Canine Good Citizen Certification, and has lived his entire life with smaller, prey-like animals.

And somehow people still try to argue the hate against pitbulls is statistical and not emotional. Nevermind the fact that those statistics are all lumped under "pitbull" (quotes even included) and does not acknowledge any of the 4 "pitbull" breeds. SO a breakdown by each actual breed would be nice. And then I'd ask you (or people actually advocating for the murder of all pitbulls) whether you want to destroy all 4 breeds, all pitubll type looking dogs, or just the American Pitbull Terrier, which is the only breed with "pitbull" in it's name. Granted, the lumping could have been a result of the breeds not being specified back then. Though I'm p sure that's not the case.I completely agree with your first statement. There are plenty of people who buy pits (among other breeds) strictly for the image. But I don't agree with you saying they get it to prove to the world that they can control a dangerous dog. In my experience it either tends to be that they want the dog because it looks muscly/thuggish and thus is a badass dog, or they want to be champions of the breed and show that the breed can be sweet. However, typically both these mentalities stop at purchasing the dog, and no training is given to lend the dog toward one path or the other.

I personally know I can stop my dog. I've had to before in scuffles where he was defending himself from a smaller dog because other owners refuse to get involved.brah you know we're cool with each other but i can't agree with a lot of this. Discipline can always be taught unless a dog has a mental problem or is just entirely distrustful of humans, in which case it should just be put down.

I'm also not sure why people seem to think that pitbulls are "insatiable" or refuse to let go. And if we want to use anecdotal evidence, i have been bitten by more aussies, and seen more aussies bite other dogs than pitbulls. Nevermind that pitbulls were bred for dog aggression, not human aggression, so saying "dogs will act like their breed" isn't an argument for why pitbulls would be so human-aggressive.and this is a perfect example of a willfully ignorant hater allowing confirmation bias to reveal himself. The dude who posted this pic already admitted the pic was faked did he not?paid over $2,000 for professional training and yet I should still be put down to own one

thanks misc, never change

Had me fooled op I have a shepherd and three little boys I could never see my dog doing anything to harm my boys, even though after sum of the shyt they’ve done to him I would hardly be able to blame him.

Poor kid. Stupid fuking mother should have never procreated if she wasn't smart enough to know she shouldn't keep a pitbull around the kid.

Also, fuk pitbulls.

^ he said what I was thinking.

64.8/4= 16.2% which is still higher than the rottie... so it is still the most dangerous dog even if you broke it into those four groups (obvs it will not fall perfectly like that but even within 2-5% it would still be the deadlist dog).

Poor people with tiny brains get pit bulls and leave them around their kids like derp he has never hurt a fly. Yeah there is a first time for everything, and everyone thinks they are the exception. Statistics of peace.

A mod went in my sig and put pitbull crew in my sig... SUch is life.


I have a beagle and a basset hound. Happy. As. Fuk.

They may sniff you and want you to pet them. Life is good.

which chart are you looking at? there's not a single "64" on that page. Looking at the chart for total bites, it says 60 for pitbulls. divide that by 4 (assuming evenly) comes out to 15, which is far less than the Rottweiler count of 29.

Even so if you divide it by half they're still about equal. Plus the stats don't account for any other factors that might play into a fatal attack.

Like I said, I'm not saying they aren't dangerous dogs, but they aren't the only one so this witch hunt for pitbulls and pitbull owners is ridiculous.

Here you guys go for full rage mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hrUrGvyv4I

Just look at the pitbull owener, totally scumbag piece of chit. If his dog did that to my beagle I honestly would've grabbed a knife at the restaurant they were nearby and stabbed it to death.

Poor beagle so scared

"can someone embed, using my phone..

Fukin RAGE

I feel this way. But none of this is tragic to me. Let the mauling thin the herd.

I say more pitbulls for everyone who wants one

i feel like 90% of pitbull owners are 6'5 130lb white guys who wear ribbed wife beaters and chain smoke cigarettes

lmao

check out the video i posted of a pitbull attacking a beagle puppy. Poor thing was in shock.

Anddddddd


Look at the owner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hrUrGvyv4I

spot on, would kick and stomp that f*cking dog until it was mashed potatoes on the ground if it ever attacked my pup

more jacked than the average miscer

Just fukkin lol at PitCucks.

man that report is fukin sad bro.

I wouldn't have any powerful dog around a toddler, tbh. But if you do and they attack... you better mandhandle that thing and show it who's the boss.

My friend did that with his Rott and it never attacked his kids again.

Knowing that people that defend pitbulls as harmless sometimes have their babies eaten by them sort of makes the whole thing worth it. What ****ing morons and what a reality check this must be for them.
BRB gonna get a pet crocodile to watch my infant

https://www.livescience.com/27145-ar...dangerous.html

I found another pretty reputable source that basically states what we're talking about here; pit bulls make up an overwhelming and disproportionate amount of violence from dogs:But, they also noted that a contributor to the dog's behavior was on part of the owner:To me it seems this argument can be analogized to the banning of illicit drugs and certain firearms.


There is nothing wrong with the breed itself, it is just more capable of violence than most. But those that gravitate towards pit bulls for pets are MUCH more likely to raise the dog in a way that promotes it being aggressive or violent.

Similarly, there is nothing wrong with a fully automatic weapon, it is just more capable of violence than semi-automatics. But those that desire to own a fully automatic are MUCH more likely to want it for illegal reasons.


My point is that, don't you think it is wise to regulate and restrict the ownership of a breed of dog that we know is much more typically owned by unfit owners, even if it's not the dog's fault? For the same reasoning that we regulate and restrict the sale of automatic firearms?

lol calling 100% bull **** on it being any sort of lab

This can be applied to any large dog breed.

I'd be all for more restrictions/thorough vetting of an owner for any dog breed over say, 40lbs. But phasing them out IE destroying their breed IE extinction of a subspecies is ridiculous IMO. You ever hear the saying "nature abhors a vacuum"?

see above post, i've said ITT and before I'm all for greater restriction of large, dangerous dogs. But it's not fair to limit that to pitbulls when there are other breeds just as capable of violence with a stronger bite force and more mass behind them. The top 3 breeds are Pitbulls (which actually consists of 4 breeds, which i raised in my last post which you glossed over, whether intentionally or not idk), GSD's, and Rottweilers. So if we're being fair, we should start with all 3 of those breeds, since they're all very popular family dogs. And growing on that, your source takes info from a pediatric hospital, meaning these were all children cases. From which you can likely deduce either 1) the dog fell over to instinct and saw the child as prey, 2) the child antagonized the dog and earned an attack, 3) the child was left alone with the dog, or a combination of those 3 factors. None of which are breed specific factors

Like I said, I'm not arguing they're not dangerous. But this witch hunt so many miscers seem to want to be a part of is absolutely stupid if you take a second and think about it.

Brb black males commit crimes on a much more frequent basis than any other demographic, lets just ban them from our country altogether yeah?

^obviously i don't mean that statement seriously, that's just a tongue-in-cheek way to show how so many miscers ITT sound. Although the sad part is that I wouldn't doubt many miscers would agree with both statements.

Regardless, always glad to debate with you brah

agreed 100%. Some of the nicest dogs I've met were pitbulls, they're not all bad. However, statistically they more so than other dogs, are involved in headlines like this. Also agree the owner a lot of times is likely at fault.

When people try to argue that pits aren't more dangerous than other dogs its literally ignorance as every single reputable metric shows that pitbulls are involved in more fatal dog attacks than any other breed. And I think that's part of the problem too, some people want to blissfully believe that pitbulls are like every other dog and genetically predisposed to this type of behavior so they let their guard down and then **** like this happens. It's sad really. If I wasn't about to have a child I would still consider adopting a Pit, but now I would never risk having a dog like that around my baby.

coming from someone who had volunteered for the spca and trained service dogs

dont be retarded

killed?

In my mind almost any animal can snap. And if you got little kids its smart to get a pet that can't kill them easily with one bite. Especially one with locking jaws you can't get off.

Friend of mine went up to their sleeping dachshund and scared it and got bit them in the face. Normally it was a great dog. If a dachsund will do something like that... who knows what a pitt, even a good pitt might do.