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Thread: If you take lifting seriously and you’re not lean, why the fuk aren’t you?

post 1568545221 12-13-2018, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
Because you get 2-3x the quality/quantity of boners when you're around 17% bf?
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post 1568545241 12-13-2018, 09:52 AM
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If you had visible abs as a child or teen then you are predisposed to bodybuilding from an aesthetic standpoint.

If you were like me bigger than everyone (on average, faster, stronger but smooth) you were predisposed to just being an athlete.

If that's not genetics I don't know what is.
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post 1568545441 12-13-2018, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By AestheticGame⏩
lol
I mean /thread, right? Is this serious
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post 1568545461 12-13-2018, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Don’t want to be too lean. A bit softer looks better imo. I like where I’m at now and just want to maintain.
Pic of said soft body parts please
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post 1568545721 12-13-2018, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Not buying it. I’ve never dieted in all my life, I eat takeout on average once a day and drink maybe 1-2x a month with friends. Have a GF and go out all the time, order whatever I want including dessert.

There’s a disconnect you’re not mentioning. It’s one thing to enjoy food and another to totally overeat all week long and wallow in self pity.
Same as this guy.

I drink, eat takeouts and deserts. I eat the same food as my family at home. The key is not eating it every meal. Fatties coping hard ITT.
post 1568546131 12-13-2018, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Potatolifter⏩
Same as this guy.

I drink, eat takeouts and deserts. I eat the same food as my family at home. The key is not eating it every meal. Fatties coping hard ITT.
Did you have visible abs as a child/teen

Are you 100% natty?
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post 1568546161 12-13-2018, 10:01 AM
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I like to bulk on very high caloric surpluses because I love chronic over-eating.

And then I run very deep deficits when I cut 6-8 months later, because I hate prolonging them.

100% aware my lifestyle is not healthy. Don't tell me how to live my life OP.
post 1568546181 12-13-2018, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
It matters. If I used supplements it'd be easy to be ripped.
This is a load of crap. Supplements help, but getting ripped is not easy regardless.
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post 1568546301 12-13-2018, 10:02 AM
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post 1568546311 12-13-2018, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Potatolifter⏩
Same as this guy.

I drink, eat takeouts and deserts. I eat the same food as my family at home. The key is not eating it every meal. Fatties coping hard ITT.
lmao what exactly does eating "IT" refer too? as I stated before I meal prep and eat my preps for 80% of my weekly meals. 1-2 chipotle runs and maybe 3-5 beers throughout the week. (Rarely I'll go to an actual restaurant and yolo it because I don't believe in paying for veggies and chicken)

And yes on weekends I binge eat and drink hard. usually 6-12 beers between Fri-Sun and i'm usually doing 1 meal/day since I dont prep meals or anything. But Im sure im killing easy 2-3k+ cals/day.

And this is just stable enough for me to maintain. People saying they "don't diet" is cope for you being used to your "dieting".
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post 1568546411 12-13-2018, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Did you have visible abs as a child/teen

Are you 100% natty?
100% natty and never had abs as a kid. Once you get lean its easier to stay there. You body doesnt want to put fat on as easy, from experience.
post 1568546421 12-13-2018, 10:04 AM
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9-11% in summer, 13-15% in winter. Never go much leaner or fatter than that. My first couple years of serious training i was a twink and did some dreamer bulks to slap on mass. I think it worked then but i wouldn't get that fat again.
post 1568546601 12-13-2018, 10:05 AM
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For me it's simply caloric intake.

Back in 2012 I weighed 200-205 with a 3-3.2k caloric maintenance. From 2013-2015 I slowly went up to 265 while eating generally eating whatever I wanted as long as I got enough protein. Now the last 2 years I started tracking again and eat 2700-3000 cal a day but my body just stays at 265ish lbs. I'm so used to eating around the caloric number it's just been hard for me to cut down the calories because I'm lazy and haven't made a concerted effort. Also I have terrible insomnia and if I'm even remotely hungry it makes it super hard to fall asleep. So basically just lack of will power. Sad!

I think a big part of it for me is NEAT though. 2010-2012 I worked in restaurants so I was on my feet 5-10 hours a day which obviously burns a lot of calories. Since then I'm sitting 90% of the time at work so I'm not getting that same NEAT benefit. I take 2 brisk 10 minute walks a day but that's about it in the NEAT department.
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post 1568546611 12-13-2018, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
This is a load of crap. Supplements help, but getting ripped is not easy regardless.
BS I could have 12% or less in 90 to 110 days easy AF.
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post 1568546741 12-13-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Not buying it. I’ve never dieted in all my life, I eat takeout on average once a day and drink maybe 1-2x a month with friends. Have a GF and go out all the time, order whatever I want including dessert.

There’s a disconnect you’re not mentioning. It’s one thing to enjoy food and another to totally overeat all week long and wallow in self pity.
Dude, you're on celltech, the calories you eat get partitioned largely to muscle. Non celltechers don't have that advantage.

Come off celltech and see what happens if you continue eating as you normally do...
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post 1568546931 12-13-2018, 10:10 AM
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Dream bulking for winter. I leaned out too much this summer so I need to get some mass back. I'm naturally lean so I struggle more with gaining/maintaining muscle.
post 1568547091 12-13-2018, 10:12 AM
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Also OP, where are the spoon pics with date?

You can't post a thread like this without evidencing the fact that you're dink skin shredded all year round.

Come thru with it boyo
post 1568547381 12-13-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
BS I could have 12% or less in 90 to 110 days easy AF.
Yeah I'm sure Leo.

GTFO outa here with that chit. I've seen chit you've posted about training/dieting and its laughable. I've been on both spectrums, natty and enhanced through 14 years and have the actual first hand experience to actually put input on something like this.

Yes gear helps, but if you can't lean out and get in shape naturally, you aren't going to do it on gear either. Getting lean requires discipline, regimen and dedication.
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post 1568547681 12-13-2018, 10:18 AM
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eh way more notice from women at 240 and 15% bodyfat then 190 and ~10%


women prefer a powerful presence over crazy striations. plus being lean is usually DYEL status in clothing and at 15% and hyuge you're still far from "fat' if you have decent mass
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Yeah I'm sure Leo.

GTFO outa here with that chit. I've seen chit you've posted about training/dieting and its laughable. I've been on both spectrums, natty and enhanced through 14 years and have the actual first hand experience to actually put input on something like this.

Yes gear helps, but if you can't lean out and get in shape naturally, you aren't going to do it on gear either. Getting lean requires discipline, regimen and dedication.
I'm not wrong if I have PRs of 400 bench at 220 and later a 335 at 169 after a long cut natty good God the things I could've done enhanced.
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post 1568547881 12-13-2018, 10:19 AM
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Low BF definitely feels better once you get over the urges to binge on food.

However it's easy to spin your wheels strength wise (at least on the big lifts), if you don't eat enough to gain some weight (and subsequently some fat)
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Originally Posted By 2Chad4You⏩
I'm lean during summer but I lose my abs when winter comes. My excuse and explanation is that I live in area where there are cold snowy winters that prevent me from doing cardio. During warm summer months I do 40-120 minutes of cycling almost daily, Can't do that in -20 celsius broski when all the roads are icy and slippery. If I really wanted I could so some kind of cardio but for me fitness is something I want to enjoy, and I enjoy cycling in beautiful nature.
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I'm lean enough to have abs year round but not lean enough to have crazy vascularity. feelskindabadman
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm not wrong if I have PRs of 400 bench at 220 and later a 335 at 169 after a long cut natty good God the things I could've done enhanced.
I mean that's strong but alot of natty lifters have hit 2x BW benches. You aren't that special sorry
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Originally Posted By pojo18⏩
eh way more notice from women at 240 and 15% bodyfat then 190 and ~10%


women prefer a powerful presence over crazy striations. plus being lean is usually DYEL status in clothing and at 15% and hyuge you're still far from "fat' if you have decent mass
I can almost guarantee you're not 240lbs at 15% bf unless you're something like 6'8" lol
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm not wrong if I have PRs of 400 bench at 220 and later a 335 at 169 after a long cut natty good God the things I could've done enhanced.
You are 100% wrong. You're like one of those guys at the gym who rave on about "oh I used to squat 700lbs in high school football"..... congratulations, nobody cares what you lifted 20 years ago and it does not make you an expert on lifting by any stretch of the imagination even if the claims are true.

Being enhanced is not some magic pill that suddenly makes you ripped and lean. It requires tons of effort to maximize the effects and actually reap the benefits out of it..

End of the day, you aren't getting lean and staying there without being mindful of your eating and training no matter what path you take.


Now, back to OP :

I can't eat crap food more than 2-3 times a week without it affecting me. Even when I do eat crap, I make sure I do it the night before I train in the AM, and make sure its a heavy day like legs or back. I'll be sure to train fasted too. I don't get a free pass to eat whatever I want, when I want unfortunately, as I store fat easily.
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Originally Posted By WorldClassDBag⏩
I'm lean enough to have abs year round but not lean enough to have crazy vascularity. feelskindabadman

I mean that's strong but alot of natty lifters have hit 2x BW benches. You aren't that special sorry
The point was enhanced it would have been astronomically higher.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The point was enhanced it would have been astronomically higher.
I mean I've seen your physique pics before and you look like chit especially for how long you've been training and you supposed lifting numbers.

I know you wanna blame genetics or whatever but I think it boils down your lack of effort
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because im lazy tbqh, and reasonably happy being somwhat big but not ridiculously fat either
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Not lean b/c I rather walk around at 240 than 225. That's about it. Eventually I'll probably be able to be lean at 240, but not there yet.
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