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post 1575428451 03-09-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Or that's your lisa marie.

You def look the type. Cementpizzagate.
You are the degenerate pervert who is showing their bare chest but no face on the internet. So, as it stands now, if we are p3ed0u hunting, you WAY in the lead.
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post 1575428461 03-09-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
You gotta understand...

Jackson had a unique life, that none of you will experience.

He was famous from the age of 7.

His dad used to beat him to force him to stay inside and practice. Every day. He had no childhood whatsoever. Never got to play with other kids, etc. There's a legit argument to make that Michael Jackson was trying to live his childhood that he missed.


And then on top of that, when he went through puberty, he had bad acne, and girls started telling him he was ugly, and what happened to the cute kid, etc... he got really messed up in the head. Imagine if you were world famous, and now you don't even want to go outside for fear of being ugly in front of paparazzi cameras? This kept on in his older adult life, where he continued to obsess about his looks, and had a ton of plastic surgery.


The guy was messed up in the head.

Just because he had a theme park, doesn't make him a ****phile.

McCauly Culkin was a close friend of Michael's. He used to have sleepovers with him. He's on record saying that nothing weird ever happened to him, or any of the other kids he was there with....


listen to this :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnWgTAh0Js
Holy ****, strong caping for a p e do p hi le

Do you know how many people grow up without a childhood? My own uncle was working since 10 once his dad left him and his 7 brothers and sisters, you know what he does now? He plays videogames hes not sleeping in bed with other children. You sick ****. Would you let your own children over with mj? No? Thats right.
post 1575428611 03-09-2019, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
You are the degenerate pervert who is showing their bare chest but no face on the internet. So, as it stands now, if we are p3ed0u hunting, you WAY in the lead.
Bb.com nudity rules dont allow you to post your bare chest, so skip the false morality routine as your reasoning.

As far as I know you are a p3do hunting.
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post 1575428711 03-09-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
And MJ was still a p3 do. None of what you said changes anything.
Read through this whole thread.
I'm not denying that maybe he was.

Again, I feel like there was a mutual relationship between Jimmy and Michael. A two-young boys relationship where they explored together their sexual relationship.

The problem is that one of those two boys was in a man's body. There's no denying that he was mentally still a child.

It doesn't condone his behavior, but people who are mentally ill don't get thrown in jail for killing someone. If they're insane, they go to an asylum, not jail.

Likewise MJ was mentally a child. Probably insane to a certain degree as witnessed by his physical changes and behaviours.

The Wade guy isn't believable at all.
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post 1575428871 03-09-2019, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Bb.com nudity rules dont allow you to post your bare chest, so skip the false morality routine as your reasoning.

As far as I know you are a p3do hunting.
Look at your avi. That is your bare chest.


Anyway, your chest is bare (no hair) and the image is sexualized. This is CLEAR proof you are fetishistic about pre-pubescent victims.
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post 1575428981 03-09-2019, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
I came away with three potential conclusions:

1. Everything these victims say is true, MJ just covered it all up with his fame and money.

2. Bunch of extremely sociopathic/psychopathic pathological liars, extremely good actors whom have invested countless hours compiling an entirely fictional story to make money in the knowledge that the accused can not respond.

3. Somewhere in between. Probably molested but over the years and from influence of others, their memories have gotten more dramatic than actual events. Implanted memories etc, but still MJ did some shady chit and should have been brought to justice.#


It takes a special kind of weird for a grown ass man to invest millions in a theme park for kids, playing with toys and reading poems with kids, dancing with kids on stage, wanting to meet with kids in private, sending creepy happy birthday video messages to kids. And boys, not fat ugly boys, or girls. Never heard about him smashing groupies, never heard about him even dating anyone really. I dunno mang, maybe we will never know.
The thing that makes me think they're full of chit is that the parents allowed their kids to stay there, they knew exactly what they were doing and it looks like a money grab to me. This is also another money grab.
post 1575428991 03-09-2019, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I'm not denying that maybe he was.

Again, I feel like there was a mutual relationship between Jimmy and Michael. A two-young boys relationship where they explored together their sexual relationship.

The problem is that one of those two boys was in a man's body. There's no denying that he was mentally still a child.

It doesn't condone his behavior, but people who are mentally ill don't get thrown in jail for killing someone. If they're insane, they go to an asylum, not jail.

Likewise MJ was mentally a child. Probably insane to a certain degree as witnessed by his physical changes and behaviours.

The Wade guy isn't believable at all.
Absolutely I deny he was still mentally a child. I dealt with this exact issue earlier in this thread. As I asked, PLEASE read the entire thread before you comment.
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post 1575429081 03-09-2019, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
Look at your avi. That is your bare chest.


Anyway, your chest is bare (no hair) and the image is sexualized. This is CLEAR proof you are fetishistic about pre-pubescent victims.
Bb.com rules allow for my chest, but not your tits. Get it now?

I've never shaved my chest.
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post 1575429221 03-09-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Bb.com rules allow for my chest, but not your tits. Get it now?

I've never shaved my chest.
I never said your tits, did I? I said CHEST the entire time. You implying I said tits is a straw man argument. You falsely represented my statement and attacked that.


So, you never shaved your chest and you look like that, I feel sorry for you son. Please join the "No Test Crew" and the "I don't identify with puberty crew".
It's far more tragic that you DIDN'T shave your chest than if you had shaved it to look like that.
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post 1575429311 03-09-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
Absolutely I deny he was still mentally a child. I dealt with this exact issue earlier in this thread. As I asked, PLEASE read the entire thread before you comment.
Your false correlation to a shrewd business move and a drug addiction to being able minded?

1. Mental states change over time

2. Michael had advisors (such as Quincy jones) that were behind the beatles catalog thing

3. A predatory doctor, who is now doing time, that got rich feeding MJs addiction isnt proof of an adult mind.
Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
I never said your tits, did I? I said CHEST the entire time. You implying I said tits is a straw man argument. You falsely represented my statement and attacked that.


So, you never shaved your chest and you look like that, I feel sorry for you son. Please join the "No Test Crew" and the "I don't identify with puberty crew".
It's far more tragic that you DIDN'T shave your chest than if you had shaved it to look like that.
Lmao.

Nobody. Literally NOONE on this planet would rather look like you than me.



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post 1575429351 03-09-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
I never said your tits, did I? I said CHEST the entire time. You implying I said tits is a straw man argument. You falsely represented my statement and attacked that.


So, you never shaved your chest and you look like that, I feel sorry for you son. Please join the "No Test Crew" and the "I don't identify with puberty crew".
It's far more tragic that you DIDN'T shave your chest than if you had shaved it to look like that.
Lmao.

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post 1575429541 03-09-2019, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
I never said your tits, did I? I said CHEST the entire time. You implying I said tits is a straw man argument. You falsely represented my statement and attacked that.


So, you never shaved your chest and you look like that, I feel sorry for you son. Please join the "No Test Crew" and the "I don't identify with puberty crew".
It's far more tragic that you DIDN'T shave your chest than if you had shaved it to look like that.
ITT a grown ass man arguing with younger guys on a bodybuilding forum about ****t that ultimately no one gives a **** about and won’t change either persons life. Lmao
post 1575429591 03-09-2019, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Your false correlation to a shrewd business move and a drug addiction to being able minded?

1. Mental states change over time

2. Michael had advisors (such as Quincy jones) that were behind the beatles catalog thing

3. A predatory doctor, who is now doing time, that got rich feeding MJs addiction isnt proof of an adult mind.





Lmao.

Nobody. Literally NOONE on this planet would rather look like you than me.



Native Americans dont grow body hair. My test levels are above average.
I think you make really good points on all of this, honestly.

Except for ONE thing.


EVERYBODY, would LOVE to look at me rather than you.


but srs. You make good points on the other stuff.
However, I still contend he had a very crafty and savy adult mind.
He was child like, but I think he is completely responsible and aware of his actions.
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post 1575429661 03-09-2019, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By daghetto⏩
ITT a grown ass man arguing with younger guys on a bodybuilding forum about ****t that ultimately no one gives a **** about and won’t change either persons life. Lmao
Turd... wtf.
This is what the intarnet is all about.

The internet is only for 3 things.

1. Looking at pr0n.

2. Looking at cats.

3. Arguing with strangers about bullchit.



Besides, Zeus is 32. We argue all the time.
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post 1575430391 03-09-2019, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot⏩
The thing that makes me think they're full of chit is that the parents allowed their kids to stay there, they knew exactly what they were doing and it looks like a money grab to me. This is also another money grab.
The problem is the ones who are defending him are the same ones who shout NO when asked, would you let your son be alone in MJ's bedroom.
I ask, why not? If you think he is 100% innocent, 100% harmless and simply a child at heart and has nothing but love and kindness for children, why would you contest to your son and MJ sleeping in the same room together while you sleep elsewhere? I'm sure you'd be fine with your best friend you've known all your life who is also a family friend sleeping in the same room as your kid (say if your kid went camping with their family and shared a tent), so why would you say no to an incredibly highly regarded, worlds biggest pop star and one of the kindest individuals in the public eye sharing a room with your son?

The answer is obvious, whether you admit it or not, theres a subconscious feeling that it just isnt right, a niggling feeling that bad things did happen that even the MJ fanboys cant deny.
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
I think you make really good points on all of this, honestly.

Except for ONE thing.


EVERYBODY, would LOVE to look at me rather than you.


but srs. You make good points on the other stuff.
However, I still contend he had a very crafty and savy adult mind.
He was child like, but I think he is completely responsible and aware of his actions.
That's reasonable.


And tbh, I dont think he is NOT a ****. I lean 65/35 he is.
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post 1575430781 03-09-2019, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
That's reasonable.


And tbh, I dont think he is NOT a ****. I lean 65/35 he is.
That is cool. I think your position is reasonable as well. (no h0m0)



Now call me a fat piece of whale chit before people start getting suspicious...
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
That is cool. I think your position is reasonable as well. (no h0m0)



Now call me a fat piece of whale chit before people start getting suspicious...
That would be insulting to whale chit.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
The problem is the ones who are defending him are the same ones who shout NO when asked, would you let your son be alone in MJ's bedroom.
I ask, why not? If you think he is 100% innocent, 100% harmless and simply a child at heart and has nothing but love and kindness for children, why would you contest to your son and MJ sleeping in the same room together while you sleep elsewhere? I'm sure you'd be fine with your best friend you've known all your life who is also a family friend sleeping in the same room as your kid (say if your kid went camping with their family and shared a tent), so why would you say no to an incredibly highly regarded, worlds biggest pop star and one of the kindest individuals in the public eye sharing a room with your son?

The answer is obvious, whether you admit it or not, theres a subconscious feeling that it just isnt right, a niggling feeling that bad things did happen that even the MJ fanboys cant deny.
I think I would be more inclined to believe these men had there not been a lawsuit brought against the estate by them.

Why make it about money? Is not making parents aware of what to watch for not enough? Is not saving others from possible abuse not enough?

By having that money component gives validity to MJ's assertion that they wanted his money.

Recently, my own family has had a lawsuit against them of completely fabricated assertions. Just because someone wanted free money.

So I understand.

MJ was weird AF, but the timing of this documentary is interesting.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
That would be insulting to whale chit.
That does it. You are the bottom tonight.
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
That does it. You are the bottom tonight.
Bring the jesus juice.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Bring the jesus juice.
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I have no opinion on this matter, but I will say that seeing something in a Netflix documentary actually makes me less likely to believe it.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786⏩
I think I would be more inclined to believe these men had there not been a lawsuit brought against the estate by them.

Why make it about money? Is not making parents aware of what to watch for not enough? Is not saving others from possible abuse not enough?

By having that money component gives validity to MJ's assertion that they wanted his money.

Recently, my own family has had a lawsuit against them of completely fabricated assertions. Just because someone wanted free money.

So I understand.

MJ was weird AF, but the timing of this documentary is interesting.
I understand your point. I struggle to believe it could be 100% fiction though. These guys, their family and wives must all be psychopathic tier liars because they were entirely believable. Unless of course, the director himself was in on it and did take after take until it was realistic enough.
Some shred of evidence would have been nice. Like the supposed underwear that had anal blood on it that MJ demanded he throws away. The guy was around 16 at the time and just did as MJ said, didnt think to hide it somewhere as evidence in the future. Never even recorded himself just making a video diary of what was going on, no written notes to himself, literally nothing.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
I understand your point. I struggle to believe it could be 100% fiction though. These guys, their family and wives must all be psychopathic tier liars because they were entirely believable. Unless of course, the director himself was in on it and did take after take until it was realistic enough.
Some shred of evidence would have been nice. Like the supposed underwear that had anal blood on it that MJ demanded he throws away. The guy was around 16 at the time and just did as MJ said, didnt think to hide it somewhere as evidence in the future. Never even recorded himself just making a video diary of what was going on, no written notes to himself, literally nothing.
I'm not saying the families are liars. I think they were blinded by the novelty of knowing someone that big.

Again, Jimmy and his account is completely believable. I can see that those things really happened to him. The Wade guy is not. He seems to have fabricated a lot of stuff, as he denied it all along, then bam, when his career was failing, he all of a sudden "needs to get this off his chest?!" Yeah, most people wouldn't believe him.

But Jimmy, he showed the psychological turmoil of being an abused child. I'm not denying his case.

But let's think about it. Dude testifies in support of MJ. Twice. Then all of a sudden, he didn't want to do it anymore. I feel like if MJ still had a relationship with him today, that guy would still be his boyfriend. I think he needed that relationship. I also think Jimmy may still be confused about his sexuality. I wouldn't be surprised if years from now he comes out of the closet as bisexual. The inner confusion and guilt he said he still feels could be from the awareness that he needed that relationship with MJ.

The man is dead. No need to smear his name more. Everyone knew he was weird AF. Even other celebrities.

I think some people would do anything for money. When these families were involved with MJ, they were living it up. They didn't question things.

Even today, people sell their daughters to foreign men under the guise of marriage to offer them a better life in more developed nations. Even today, men make malicious plans to marry lonely fat white women who will get them to a better living standard. What these families did in the documentary is no different than what average people do to progress in life.

It's just the terrible world we live in.

Anyways, I finished the documentary. It was disturbing on many levels. Hope those who are real victims heal from what happened to them and make it their focus of life to ensure others don't fall in the same traps.
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anybody that thinks he wasn't a **** predator deserves to get raped by a bear during summer camp.
post 1575437151 03-09-2019, 02:43 PM
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If these "victims" are able to get a pay day out of this, I definitely can't believe them. It's over and it's time to move on with your life. Money isn't going to fix you if this really happened. The guy is dead and can't even defend himself so what does it matter other than getting some money out of it.
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again, MJ was chemically castrated by his dad to preserve his voice


he had no testosterone, no functioning testicles.
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot⏩
The thing that makes me think they're full of chit is that the parents allowed their kids to stay there, they knew exactly what they were doing and it looks like a money grab to me. This is also another money grab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRIknU6YxC0

Dr. Drew's conclusion is that we don't know, but everything is consistent in his experience with other victims he's worked with over the years and that MJ's behavior was classic grooming behavior.
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So to all the Michael Jackson defenders - let's say that he never did anything illegal or a crime that was worthy of him go to prison for a long time. We will go with that scenario for this question. But what if he still acted in a way that was really inappropriate with other people's children? Would doing so be justification for his legacy to be tarnished or thought of as a creep? And if that were the case, why is your rational for still being his fan?

What I hear from a lot of the defenders is that - "The cops went to his house and found nothing!". Okay, first of all, let's be clear, they didn't find "nothing". Authorities didn't find any concrete proof he was molesting children. But what we do know is that he:

- Liked sleeping in bed with other people's kids.
- One of the children he was suspected of molesting was able to draw an accurate representation of his genitalia.
- Michael's and some of the boys' fingerprints were on a collection of adult magazines he had in his room.
- Very questionable statues were in full view of the kids he would invite, including women in gags.

So, like I said, take out the crime equation(even though I'm pretty sure showing adult material to kids is a crime), at the end of the day, Michael Jackson was a creepy guy who acted very oddly around other people's children. If Michael Jackson was some random guy who lived in his mom's basement, people wouldn't think twice about throwing him in a wood chipper. But so many people who are his fans can't even admit the guy was a creep. To me, that's enough to just void the dude. I loved his music too, but damn, I've come to the conclusion that guy got his jollies by at least acting like a pervert around kids. Fuk the guy, seriously.
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