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post 1575409611 03-09-2019, 05:36 AM
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Leaving Neverland...

I came away with three potential conclusions:

1. Everything these victims say is true, MJ just covered it all up with his fame and money.

2. Bunch of extremely sociopathic/psychopathic pathological liars, extremely good actors whom have invested countless hours compiling an entirely fictional story to make money in the knowledge that the accused can not respond.

3. Somewhere in between. Probably molested but over the years and from influence of others, their memories have gotten more dramatic than actual events. Implanted memories etc, but still MJ did some shady chit and should have been brought to justice.#


It takes a special kind of weird for a grown ass man to invest millions in a theme park for kids, playing with toys and reading poems with kids, dancing with kids on stage, wanting to meet with kids in private, sending creepy happy birthday video messages to kids. And boys, not fat ugly boys, or girls. Never heard about him smashing groupies, never heard about him even dating anyone really. I dunno mang, maybe we will never know.
post 1575410531 03-09-2019, 06:08 AM
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Crazy to think he is celebrated and worshipped yet was a ****phile. Guess that’s America though. Hate someone doing great things for our country and love ****’s
post 1575411061 03-09-2019, 06:25 AM
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sucks that people have to die in order to hear the "truth" in the mainstream
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Why now is all this coming out and not sooner after his death?

Mj specials and hype go round in cycles of every 5 years
post 1575411181 03-09-2019, 06:28 AM
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My is a pervert . The fact that he had people sign a nda regarding children is proof enough for me.
post 1575411401 03-09-2019, 06:34 AM
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They're not out to make money, but released a 4-hour long doc in the hopes that it will lessen some of their own pain and that of others who've been through stuff like this also.

Wait wut? Doc sold to 150 countries? This isn't about money at all. ok.jpeg.
post 1575411551 03-09-2019, 06:36 AM
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the emotions are so real in the video, even if u gave me a billion dollars and asked me to fake and say i got penetrated, i will never do it
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I saw the documentary there is no way in hell he wasn't a ****phile which makes me sick cause I used to be a fan of this guy and love his music.

it's ****ing disgusting.
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You gotta understand...

Jackson had a unique life, that none of you will experience.

He was famous from the age of 7.

His dad used to beat him to force him to stay inside and practice. Every day. He had no childhood whatsoever. Never got to play with other kids, etc. There's a legit argument to make that Michael Jackson was trying to live his childhood that he missed.


And then on top of that, when he went through puberty, he had bad acne, and girls started telling him he was ugly, and what happened to the cute kid, etc... he got really messed up in the head. Imagine if you were world famous, and now you don't even want to go outside for fear of being ugly in front of paparazzi cameras? This kept on in his older adult life, where he continued to obsess about his looks, and had a ton of plastic surgery.


The guy was messed up in the head.

Just because he had a theme park, doesn't make him a ****phile.

McCauly Culkin was a close friend of Michael's. He used to have sleepovers with him. He's on record saying that nothing weird ever happened to him, or any of the other kids he was there with....


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnWgTAh0Js
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post 1575418151 03-09-2019, 09:03 AM
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Will lead with I wouldn’t have let my kid hang around him.

But, too many of the kids came out and said they lied. In the era of #metoo I want hard core evidence and the dude was loopy but with lying witnesses there’s a reason he was found not guilty in court.

Dead men can’t defend themselves. So **** the doc. We all knew he was mentally ****ed already.
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Guaranteed Jackson was abused as a kid and it translated to that in later life
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
Guaranteed Jackson was abused as a kid and it translated to that in later life
this, he had no childhood at all, his father forced all of them to do the shows and chit. he legit wanted to be a kid later on as he missed that whole part of his life.
not defending p3do part but i think dude was legit crazy and he wanted to be a kid.
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
Guaranteed Jackson was abused as a kid and it translated to that in later life
of course he was all those sick ****s get abused and when they grow up abuse other children.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
of course he was all those sick ****s get abused and when they grow up abuse other children.
Are you aware that the first kid to accuse him, years later wrote an open letter apologizing for lying and admitted he made the whole thing up?
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Are you aware that the first kid to accuse him, years later wrote an open letter apologizing for lying and admitted he made the whole thing up?
what first kid?


I saw the whole thing close to 4 hours there is no way all that stuff was made up there are too many details there is no way in hell he wasn't abusing any of those kids he was sleeping with.
post 1575419121 03-09-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
what first kid?


I saw the whole thing close to 4 hours there is no way all that stuff was made up there are too many details there is no way in hell he wasn't abusing any of those kids he was sleeping with.
Dude... did you know that Michael's parents CHEMICALLY CASTRATED him to protect his voice so they could keep making money?

Michael Jackson had no testosterone. NO sexual desire.






In 1993, and in 2003, police searched his entire house. All of his properties, his collection of VHS tapes... everything.

He had no child abuse material. None were found. None.


They interviewed over 30 kids who had spent time with Michael at the ranch.... they couldn't find a single corroborating witness.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩

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If it walks like a duck...

Buy offs, NDA's, Accurate description of his junk from a child.
Everything about him screams guilty.

So... this super famous guy who does all this weird **** isn't guilty. Ok... there is a .001% chance he isn't.
However... if it walks like a duck. There is a mountain of testimony and evidence and behavior pointing to the fact that he is guilty.

To justify him NOT being guilty takes a lot of complex and intellectually dishonest contortions to get there.

Occam's razor is the problem-solving principle that essentially states that "simpler solutions are more likely to be correct than complex ones". When presented with competing hypotheses to solve a problem, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Dude... did you know that Michael's parents CHEMICALLY CASTRATED him to protect his voice so they could keep making money?

Michael Jackson had no testosterone. NO sexual desire.






In 1993, and in 2003, police searched his entire house. All of his properties, his collection of VHS tapes... everything.

He had no child abuse material. None were found. None.


They interviewed over 30 kids who had spent time with Michael at the ranch.... they couldn't find a single corroborating witness.
didn't find anything my ass lol.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nage-boys.html


he had a hole concealed room with kiddy porn and various other sick stuff.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
didn't find anything my ass lol.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nage-boys.html


he had a hole concealed room with kiddy porn and various other sick stuff.
If any of that was true, why didn't they charge him with kiddy porn?

He was found not guilty in 2005.


It's not true. If it was true.... he would have been sent to prison.
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The documents exposed Jackson as a manipulative, drug-and-sex-crazed predator who used blood, gore, sexually explicit images of animal sacrifice and perverse adult sex acts to bend children to his will.'

The source added: 'He also had disgusting and downright shocking images of child torture, adult and child nudity, female bondage and sadomasochism.'

The report states that many of the materials featuring naked men and women in the home could be used for the purpose of trying to attract young men.

After the descriptions for many of the materials, the investigator notes: 'Based on my training, this type of material can be used as part of the "grooming" process, by which people (those seeking to molest children) lower the inhibitions of their intended victims and facilitate the molestation of said victims.'

These materials include 'a book depicting nude children' found in the singer's 'arcade room'; 'a book which contained nude photographs of men' in the 'master bathroom'; and multiple books found in the 'master bedroom' that included one with 'naked and semi-naked gay men' and another with 'pre-teen or early teenage individuals' who in some cases were 'nude or semi-nude'.

A lot of this stuff was used to desensitize the children, and Michael admitted taking one child after another into bed with him for long periods of time,' said Zonen.

'We identified five different boys, who all made allegations of sexual abuse. There’s not much question in my mind that Michael was guilty of child molestation.'

Jackson was ultimately acquitted in 2005 after being charged with seven felony counts of child molestation and two felony counts of providing an intoxicant to a minor under the age of 14 when Gavin Arvizo came forward claiming that he had been sexually assaulted by the singer.

Gavin was a 13-year-old cancer survivor at the time of the alleged incidents.

The claims made by Gavin were similar to the ones made a decade earlier when another 13-year-old boy, Jordan Chandler, came forward to say he had been molested by Jackson.

No charges were ever filed against the singer however after police discovered the Chandler's father may have been attempting to extort Jackson and the young boy's mother claimed Jackson never touched her son.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
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and show me where the police charged him with possession of kiddy porn?

Again, he was found not guilty.

None of that article is true
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
If any of that was true, why didn't they charge him with kiddy porn?

He was found not guilty in 2005.


It's not true. If it was true.... he would have been sent to prison.
Good point.

Rich and famous people never get away with crimes ever.
Especially if they arguably the biggest celebrity in the word.

There is NO WAY a rich and famous person could manipulate the justice system. That is just SOOOOOOOOOO hard to believe.


Edit:
Oh, and Macaulay Culkin was very famous himself. MJ wasn't stupid enough to try and hit that. ALSO... it was a great cover for him to befriend Caulin and not do anything. Meanwhile he was going all chomo on the poorer non-famous kids.
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Robson only comes out with allegations of molestation after he was denied a job from MJ's estate as running tribute show to the guy who supposedly molested him? So he gets molested, attends the premiere of "This is it" a movie glorifying his dead "alleged" molester..then he wants to run a tribute show for him. Oh yeah, people want to run giant tribute shows to their abusers all the time....pft
It's all BS.

The average molester has hundreds of victims, but the guy with the freaking amusement park in his backyard, only manged to molest 4 people, one of which went to trial, investigated for years by the feds, and the victim and his family was found completely unreliable (later went to jail for lying under oath) MJ was found 100% not guilty.

That documentary was all manipulation, creepy music, edited, and the lose with the truth. All designed to make a dead man look evil. Non of the dates and stories hold up to basic scrutiny.

This is all BS, like that Christine Blasie Ford hearing.
The country has gone on to glorify "victims" and gives them more credit just because they are "survivors". People are eating this up because of #metoo. Fake news. Sad.
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Originally Posted By CementPizza⏩
Good point.

Rich and famous people never get away with crimes ever.
Especially if they arguably the biggest celebrity in the word.

There is NO WAY a rich and famous person could manipulate the justice system. That is just SOOOOOOOOOO hard to believe.
what this guy said also there are a ton of people involved with ****philia I am talking about judges politicians and even celebrities and they never get charged with anything.

there is enough proof of this it's not a conspiracy I don't feel like looking for sources but there is 1 famous documentary.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
and show me where the police charged him with possession of kiddy porn?

Again, he was found not guilty.

None of that article is true
All of it is true.
Or else MJ's estate could have destroyed dailymail and the law enforcement agency making the claim.

It wouldn't even take a good, expensive lawyer to sue them into oblivion.


He is guilty and you know it. You just don't want to admit it to yourself.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
what this guy said also there are a ton of people involved with ****philia I am talking about judges politicians and even celebrities and they never get charged with anything.

there is enough proof of this it's not a conspiracy I don't feel like looking for sources but there is 1 famous documentary.
Exactly........ It's not like all kinds of reports of human trafficking by the rich and powerful are not coming out right now. <sarcastic font>
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Am i the only one who thought it was pretty fuking boring? Other than the disgusting details it was blah
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