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post 1575714971 03-13-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby
Parents bought a house in 1996 for 150K, now worth a chit load more.
The millenial cucks will inherit their parents house, and they know this. Hence why most of them do fuc all in the meantime.
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Originally Posted By sooby
not surprising, alot of the millenials were pushed by their parents to get a post-secondary degree, tuition over the past 30 years really had gone up tremendously. Housing prices are literally 3x-4x the price in 25 years.

Parents bought a house in 1996 for 150K, BRB same house in 2019 with few renos is not 610K. BRB salaries haven't increased to match this.

Not to mention alot of bad decisions made by millennial and the inability to adapt. But unlike back then you had room to fuk up and you could probably raise a family off of Wal-Mart money lmao.
A 2019 retail store assistant manager easily takes down $40-$50k per year. Probably the worst job on earth, but easily enough to support a family.
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I'm of mixed opinion on this. Yes college prices have gone crazy, even to state schools. So starting people off with 50k in debt or more does suck. House prices are also inflated and that is against them too. My parents moved out here to Colorado when my dad retired. They bought a house for 232k and have a contract right now to sell it for 335k four years later. I bought mine for 196k back in 2010 and could sell it now for 300k. So it's not all their fault.

But as others have said, it's also on them to not rack up an additional 30k on credit cards, pay 1k for the latest greatest phone/computer/gadgets, need to drive a new car, drink a $5 Starbucks coffee every morning, and to not major in decorative basket weaving. They have to be more disciplined to get out from under that debt, not spend outside their means using a credit card, etc.

I have just under 5k in credit card debt and that's too much. I don't carry my current credit card and switch cards every 18 months to a new zero interest card to pay it off. We have 3 cars, an 03 f150, a 98 Cadillac, and my wife's 2011 GMC Acadia. Nothing fancy. I just got a new cell phone after having one for 3.5 years and only did it because it was free when my wife bought one.

My sister in law lives in a trailer with her loser husband and they just bought a new car. Could have bought a 3 or 4 year old car for much less and saved the difference for a down payment on a house, but she had to have new.

Gotta be disciplined and live within your means
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Doesn't surprise me. There's 3 basic ways to pay for college, and 2 require work-

Work for an academic/athletic scholarship
Work full time and pay as you go
Get loans, coast by and complain about debt

Given the fact that most millennials will take the easiest path, why is this a surprise?
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Originally Posted By doughnutking
The millenial cucks will inherit their parents house, and they know this. Hence why most of them do fuc all in the meantime.
A good parent (imo) would teach the children that they aren't necessarily inheriting squat.

Gotta earn it.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Skipping out on the new $1,200 iPhone will magically give me the ability to buy a new house and pay off all my loans?
its the point he is making. not the situation of they ghey iPhone itself. he is saying people whom are In debt dont have their priorities straight.
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Originally Posted By sooby
not surprising, alot of the millenials were pushed by their parents to get a post-secondary degree, tuition over the past 30 years really had gone up tremendously. Housing prices are literally 3x-4x the price in 25 years.

Parents bought a house in 1996 for 150K, BRB same house in 2019 with few renos is not 610K. BRB salaries haven't increased to match this.

Not to mention alot of bad decisions made by millennial and the inability to adapt. But unlike back then you had room to fuk up and you could probably raise a family off of Wal-Mart money lmao.
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The median wage and median home price in 1975 were nearly identical to today's, in today's money.

If you don't like home prices in your town, move. The reason this hypothetical house would go from 150k-->610k is location and population density.

How do you think people who bough houses in Detroit in 1996 feel?
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor
Credit card and mortgage debt is down

Student loan debt isn't really an option for people who want an education.
Maybe not. But there's a difference between going to school out of state and paying 30k a year vs doing 2 years at a community college paying like 4k a year then going to an instate school getting pretty much the same education. Problem is millenials want to get as far away from their parents as possible so they can party. Their own faults. Ex used to complain about her student loan debt all the time. Went to school in michigan then transferred to iowa. For an English degree. Could've got the same education at ISU for half the cost. Or commuted at UIC for 1/8 of the cost.

Poor choices. Only ones that have excuses are super smart people who get into great schools that specialize in certain fields so they can be at the top of the career world.
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Future $118k in student loan debt crew.

My grad school is ~50k a year and the average indebtedness of a graduate from the program is $178k


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Originally Posted By soaponarope1
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The median wage and median home price in 1975 were nearly identical to today's, in today's money.

If you don't like home prices in your town, move. The reason this hypothetical house would go from 150k-->610k is location and population density.

How do you think people who bough houses in Detroit in 1996 feel?
Not to mention the average home built now are like 40% bigger than they were 50 years ago.
post 1575715861 03-13-2019, 10:17 AM
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Capitalism is a joke and is the real culprit here.

LOL @ getting in debt for an education, knowledge should be free
LOL @ getting in debt for an artificially inflated crap property to give profits to nasty bankers and real estate agents

If you can't design and build your own house then you can't call yourself a man, the difference between actual construction costs and sales prices is abysmal. Same with food if you can't grow your own food then you will always be a slave
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Originally Posted By messomi
you mean they inherited the debt from the previous generation lol.
I don't know how you inherit student loan debt, weird flex but ok.

"I took out 200k in loans to get drunk at college for my useless degree now I work at Starbucks... ****ing orange man bad and evil previous generations!"

If only there were a way to go to college for free, like through the military or something. That would be neat.
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post 1575716151 03-13-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887
I don't know how you inherit student loan debt, weird flex but ok.

"I took out 200k in loans to get drunk at college for my useless degree now I work at Starbucks... ****ing orange man bad and evil previous generations!"

If only there were a way to go to college for free, like through the military or something. That would be neat.
He must be a millenial too lazy to even read the article.
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Originally Posted By LeonardShelby
Maybe not. But there's a difference between going to school out of state and paying 30k a year vs doing 2 years at a community college paying like 4k a year then going to an instate school getting pretty much the same education. Problem is millenials want to get as far away from their parents as possible so they can party. Their own faults. Ex used to complain about her student loan debt all the time. Went to school in michigan then transferred to iowa. For an English degree. Could've got the same education at ISU for half the cost. Or commuted at UIC for 1/8 of the cost.

Poor choices. Only ones that have excuses are super smart people who get into great schools that specialize in certain fields so they can be at the top of the career world.
I knew a girl who went to school at Mercer pharmacy school for $50k a year when she had a full ride scholarship to UGA pharmacy school because she said she was tired of living in Athens lmao.

Some people deserve their massive student loans. Meanwhile I went to CC for $1500 per 15 credit hours.
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Originally Posted By LeonardShelby
Maybe not. But there's a difference between going to school out of state and paying 30k a year vs doing 2 years at a community college paying like 4k a year then going to an instate school getting pretty much the same education. Problem is millenials want to get as far away from their parents as possible so they can party. Their own faults. Ex used to complain about her student loan debt all the time. Went to school in michigan then transferred to iowa. For an English degree. Could've got the same education at ISU for half the cost. Or commuted at UIC for 1/8 of the cost.

Poor choices. Only ones that have excuses are super smart people who get into great schools that specialize in certain fields so they can be at the top of the career world.
This. A lot of people pay big bucks for the lower div GEs thinking they will get something of value out of it 10 years down the road career wise. Since millennials in this article don't own homes and the focus is student loan debt, a lot could benefit from career advancement by having employer paid graduate school and taking a lower end job/internship during that time frame. Brother in law did that and is easily 150k+/yr (poverty on misc) now.
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor
Credit card and mortgage debt is down

Student loan debt isn't really an option for people who want an education.
Wtf does that mean? I've got 2 undergrad degrees and am attending an MBA program.

Never so much as seen a student loan application form, and haven't received a dime in money from my family. If you want something (like a college education without debt) get out there and get it done.

It's difficult, and I work a lot of 12-14 hour days, but I'll never be beholden to a student loan. You're an adult, you always have choices and options, some are harder than others, but usually have a worthwhile reward.
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Isn‘t the problem more that student loans are simply not payed back and instead, minimal payments are made until you die? I‘m not familiar with the concept, it doesn‘t exist where I live.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887
I don't know how you inherit student loan debt, weird flex but ok.

"I took out 200k in loans to get drunk at college for my useless degree now I work at Starbucks... ****ing orange man bad and evil previous generations!"
To be fair, who planted that idea in our youth in our first place? The idea that you have to go to collegue, get a chit ton of debt, get a BS job to pay for said debt and have some spare cash to live and to CONSUME useless crap. This status quo of live to consume and consume to live is the biggest scam of modernity, it forces or youth to chase a pipe dream thinking buying and consuming is the only way to live and the only way to achieve happiness and well being.

Go to any house of any "modern" first world country person and see how many useless chit they have lying around. Look at the threads here about "whats your latest purchase" and bs like that our over consumption habits have reached absurd levels, almost to the point of satire.


I mean...





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Originally Posted By suave2000
Capitalism is a joke and is the real culprit here.

LOL @ getting in debt for an education, knowledge should be free
LOL @ getting in debt for an artificially inflated crap property to give profits to nasty bankers and real estate agents

If you can't design and build your own house then you can't call yourself a man, the difference between actual construction costs and sales prices is abysmal. Same with food if you can't grow your own food then you will always be a slave
You’re underappreacting the benefits of specialization. You pay someone to build your house because they have experience building houses, they’ll do it faster and better than you. They have all the tools and equipment required, can get materials in bulk for cheaper, etc etc

No joke, the world is a better place when everyone has a specific role with specialized experience and skills. Then you have experts nailing every individual thing as opposed to one jack-of-all-trades who does everything but is mediocre across the board
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Originally Posted By doughnutking
The millenial cucks will inherit their parents house, and they know this. Hence why most of them do fuc all in the meantime.
Won't be able to maintain the expenses plus the lavish lifestyle of most millennials. Then I'm gonna swoop in
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Originally Posted By Anachron
There is no one forcing people to live in Toronto or Vancouver.

And at the 80K level, there's job everywhere.
Please post some sales/marketing jobs in rural Ontario that offer that then
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brb make comparatively less than that no education/"hard" skill person in the 1950s.

fun stuff

Sure I'll be more than fine in life but to say that "just be more responsible" is the solution when the environment is drastically different than back then isdisingenuous.
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Originally Posted By dj10show
My parents' house has doubled in value since they bought it. I work in the same industry as my dad, and salaries have not proportionally increased to match that.
How would the ceos and executives bolster their salaries, bonuses, etc if they matched salaries with inflation?
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that feel when unable to afford a home because of inflated market caused by boomer retard speculators just buying up sheit and letting it sit empty and millions of third worlders dilluting labor market supply suppressing your wages, no sense of community, constantly surrounded by foreigners and strangers, realizing that having a traditional happy family with a wife and kids that love you is an adolescent fantasy that no longer exists since women have been lead to believe that their 20s should be better spent "working" making pointless power points or doing some useless sheit for $15/hr rather than having a family, and taking hormone birth control pills destroying their reproductive system and comitting fornication with a large crowd of 50+ men, being told sex not the sacred act of creating a new life but it is instead just something for fun like a "sport" or "experience" and fornication "empowering" when it really just destroys their ability to love or trust or bond with any future husband. When you realize your life is meaningless and when you die nobody will even notice you're gone. Surrounded by ugly brutal concrete structures and asphalt everywhere you look. Suffocating from the pressure around you you can't do anything without permission from big daddy government. All the "food" sold at the stores is filled with soy and unnatural amounts of sugar and chemicals and hormones and herbicides and pesticiedes and wrapped in testosterone destroying plastics and everything you touch is made of xenoestrogen chemicals intended to destroy you. View any media and get constantly bombarded with anti you propaganda promoting the most vile perverted degenerate filth beyond anything you could even imagine in your worst nightmare then you're being called a bigot "ist" or "phobe" for not thinking it is normal or good for a healthy society. Sedated by pornography readily given for free to distract you from your pain and loneliness . Tell a doctor you don't feel well and just get dosed with anti depression drugs to better deal with the sick society you're thrust into and turning you into a soulless meat puppet zombie living your days in a disassociated state until you just end it yourself or overdose on narcotics or alcohol. But we live in America the greatest country to ever exist gotta love it right ?
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How am I supposed to travel around the world if I have a house payment?

Use some common sense boyo.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
This is everything ^^^^^

BRB, $0 saved for retirement
BRB, $125,000 in student loans
BRB, $32,000 in CC debt
BRB, go stand in line for the new $1,200 iPhone
BRB, blame boomers for my decision making
You forgot to add in,

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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
This is everything ^^^^^

BRB, $0 saved for retirement
BRB, $125,000 in student loans
BRB, $32,000 in CC debt
BRB, go stand in line for the new $1,200 iPhone
BRB, blame boomers for my decision making
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Originally Posted By Tornach
Come at me housing bubble.
This is our chance at making it young misc.
Wife and I are closing on a home in May.

Wonder how our timing will end up.

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