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If you are on the sidewalk and a cop says "Come here, I need to talk to you."
03-16-2019, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed⏩
For all intents and purposes, a cop can claim he has reasonable suspicion whenever he wants to. It's a much lower threshold than probable cause. So, if he asks you to come here and you refuse, he can simply claim later that he was asking because he had reasonable suspicion, which will probably be difficult to disprove, so... the smart play is to not walk away when asked.Pretty much this. Just don't be a retard and walk away on case the cop has reasonable suspicion
Remember, deaf people have been shot for not hearing/heeding the instructions of cops, so you don't want to give a cop the idea that you're ignoring him.
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03-16-2019, 09:27 PM
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you don't need to provide him with no ID. if you're not doing **** wrong..... FUK tha Police
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03-16-2019, 09:44 PM
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Dont be stupid. Always ID yourself if the officer ask for it.
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03-16-2019, 09:45 PM
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03-16-2019, 09:51 PM
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Just comply and show your ID? I know the internet wants you to believe every cop is firing their gun in shopping malls trying to stop someone stealing a pack of gum but in reality most are nice if you don't act fuking smug and just do what they say. That or, I don't know, don't put yourself fin suspicious situations or break the law.
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03-16-2019, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
So, walking down the street is "reasonable suspicion" that a crime is going to or has been committed? Lmfao. "Reasonable suspicion" is whatever the officer wants it to be.Reasonable suspicion is defined as facts or circumstances that would lead an officer to believe a crime has been, is being, or is ABOUT to be committed. A crime doesn't necessarily have to have been committed yet.
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03-16-2019, 10:19 PM
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03-16-2019, 10:27 PM
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03-16-2019, 10:33 PM
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03-16-2019, 11:27 PM
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you have to check if your being detained. start filming with your phone and ask "AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED?". let him know your a sovereign citizen and that you know your rights to be on the safe side.
03-16-2019, 11:37 PM
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03-16-2019, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
This isn't true. If your detained you need to state your name.According to most Miscers, and the responses that we see in other threads here, the cop would have the right to kill you for that. He was just doing his job and you should have followed his orders and not been a dumbass.
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GTFO with that bullsht. "Stop and identify" only applies if the officer has "reasonable suspicion" that you have committed a crime. It is perfectly legal (although not recommended) and constitutional in the entire US to tell an officer to fuk off if he asks you anything (unless you are driving, in which case you are required to show ID. This does NOT apply to passengers in the vehicle according to a recent Supreme Court case), and you ALWAYS have the right to remain silent, which includes refusing to ID yourself.
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GTFO with that bullsht. "Stop and identify" only applies if the officer has "reasonable suspicion" that you have committed a crime. It is perfectly legal (although not recommended) and constitutional in the entire US to tell an officer to fuk off if he asks you anything (unless you are driving, in which case you are required to show ID. This does NOT apply to passengers in the vehicle according to a recent Supreme Court case), and you ALWAYS have the right to remain silent, which includes refusing to ID yourself.
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03-17-2019, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted By MiamiLife305⏩
this but finish by asking him if I am being detained or am I free to go.I'd stop and answer his questions
Don't want my life turning into hell because some douche cop had a power trip
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03-17-2019, 12:55 AM
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if you did Nothing wrong your Good OP- being a Cop is just a job like any other Burger flipper in the world... your way right away
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03-17-2019, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted By SirBetalot⏩
does it benefit you to give him a min of your time? NOPE99 percent of cops just want to do their job and get home safe to their families. If one asks you a question, instead of being a badass and walking away, would it really hurt to just give him a minute of your time?
it can ONLY lead to negative consequences so why do it?
I have many friends in law enforcement but I still won't waste time talking to a cop. It simply serves me no purpose, casually walk away. If he grabs my arm and orders me then that's different.
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03-17-2019, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted By rhadam⏩
lol stupid cripple can't even walk anymore.. I'd briskly speed walk like a total ******* to mock himWhat if the cop is Ronnie Coleman??
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03-17-2019, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted By SirBetalot⏩
LOL I'd disagree with that number.99 percent of cops just want to do their job and get home safe to their families. If one asks you a question, instead of being a badass and walking away, would it really hurt to just give him a minute of your time?
You're telling me only one out of 100 cops does EVERYTHING BY THE BOOK?
I don't buy that, probably more like 10%, and probably AT LEAST one on every force.
Lots of cops on BS to varying degrees.
Thing is I can understand how hard it probably is to walk that straight and narrow.
It's my understanding many cops get pressured by gangs and things of that nature.
That's aside from the potential to abuse their power.
I don't think I could do it, too much of a temper and cameras everywhere.
That's why it's imperative they have to vet, and also monitor them better.
IMO it's a very human thing to lust for power, especially after you get a little taste.
It's very easy to say you wouldn't abuse that power if you're not actually in that position.
Ex. Some guy spits in my face I'm almost certainly gonna punch him in the face unless someone intervenes.
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03-17-2019, 03:02 AM
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03-17-2019, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted By EoR⏩
Never comply with an unlawful command.Just comply and show your ID? I know the internet wants you to believe every cop is firing their gun in shopping malls trying to stop someone stealing a pack of gum but in reality most are nice if you don't act fuking smug and just do what they say. That or, I don't know, don't put yourself fin suspicious situations or break the law.
The more you guys comply the more your rights will be eroded.
I will politely decline any and all verbal requests by police that are unjustified.
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03-17-2019, 06:13 AM
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03-17-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By BackDown⏩
this.i would just turn in the other direction and start sprinting as fast as i could. you'll have an easy 20 feet on him b4 he even starts and as long as you can outrun him stamina wise youre good
Also if he wants to talk, he's the one coming to me not the other way around
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03-17-2019, 07:15 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this thread is.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
And make sure them boots are licked clean enough to see your reflection inDont be stupid. Always ID yourself if the officer ask for it.
03-17-2019, 07:26 AM
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03-17-2019, 07:31 AM
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You are searching for a legal answer. I would search for a reasonable answer. It's reasonable to just talk to the cop and see what he needs. If you do anything else you have now probably given him reasonable suspicion to detain you. But miscers gone misc so go ahead and be a badass. What could go wrong?
03-17-2019, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By kingofturtles⏩
Nope. Its called the right to remain SILENT. You are not required to say ANYTHING to police, including your name.This isn't true. If your detained you need to state your name.
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03-17-2019, 07:50 AM
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Just exercise your 5th amendment right to remain silent. If you get arrested so be it, if you did nothing wrong there's no need to worry.
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03-17-2019, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted By AniMaLizTik⏩
One isn't allowed to walk away from an authority figure or disobey any command. That's why abuse of authority is a crime - they have all the power and your respect is a mental weakness required by law. You're not allowed to sass at authority or be disrespectful in any way. So, if you see a cop, be aware you might get shot. Law enforcement officers are of course most often heroes, but avoiding being seen by them in the first place (and any other power trip human) is the smartest strategy. Profs also force generations of students to give blow jobs and are most often not caught, or if caught, the weaker one is blamed for efficiency purposes. Sad but true....and you turn your back and walk away. You were not breaking any laws. Does he or she have the authority to detain you by force?
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03-17-2019, 08:32 AM
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I go and I talk politely to them, if you are not breaking the law, the police is actually helpful, so I don't understand the rage some people have against them. Brb losing lives and having a chitty job to protect the citizens while they always ask questions like ''why do I have to legitimate myself? why do I have to do x and y if I'm not charged?'' . It would be more efficient if you cooperate for 5 mins, but nah, people hate thinking.
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