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post 1577989501 04-13-2019, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor
Casual sex is so not the point of living. No joke, if I could remove only my constant and unyielding need to orgasm, I think I’d be a lot happier. If everything else remained the same and I just didn’t feel that drive but could switch it on to make babies, I would do it in a second.

That constant need for sex served us well through our evolutionary history, it’s what allowed us to propagate as a species. Nowadays we control pregnancy regardless, and that drive for orgasms is really nothing more than a burden

It’s no wonder people would rather just masturbate. Unless you’re making babies, the final outcome of masturbation is exactly the same as casual sex: a purposeless orgasm that temporarily satisfies a never-ending appetite
Repping this post later. Exactly how I feel. Sex drive is the biggest scam going
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Originally Posted By Destor
Casual sex is so not the point of living. No joke, if I could remove only my constant and unyielding need to orgasm, I think I’d be a lot happier. If everything else remained the same and I just didn’t feel that drive but could switch it on to make babies, I would do it in a second.

That constant need for sex served us well through our evolutionary history, it’s what allowed us to propagate as a species. Nowadays we control pregnancy regardless, and that drive for orgasms is really nothing more than a burden

It’s no wonder people would rather just masturbate. Unless you’re making babies, the final outcome of masturbation is exactly the same as casual sex: a purposeless orgasm that temporarily satisfies a never-ending appetite
It’s less about sex and more about knowing you’re desirable. Maybe that’s just me. But life as a single person with almost 0 options for a worthwhile partner sounds meaningless.
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Originally Posted By KingNothing95
Both sides have unrealistic standards and are delusional/thread
Repped

I would also add that due to technology both sexes are suffering from lack of social skills which deters people from meeting each other (dont believe me just look how many people are on the phone and if you try to talk to a girl she usually has the personality of a potato) .

Add the metoo movement and feminist agendas where women claim they are being harrased by guys hitting on them and no guy wants to be that guy so many guys dont even approach women.

We are going to turn into Japan pretty soon.
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post 1577990181 04-13-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
Lol i dont believe it

Go back to the 90's. No cell phone. Pretty much no internet

Look at how many people were talking to even on the misc that wouldnt happen without the internet.

Obviously that doesnt mean sex. But that means people are in connection with wayyyyyy more people than people from the 90's ever used to

Thats not even going to ********, tinder, instagram. Instead of having to go to the club or something. Brb just hop on tinder and cell phone. You can talk to people from all over the world in 2 seconds, whereas in the past thats not even close to doable. Not to mention we had way less of an idea of what was going on there

I want to know how they generated the #'s. Teen pregnancy being down could easily be the proliferation of birth control
Whats more likely to get you laid...

Talking with girl by text, ********, tinder ....

OR

Going out meeting a girl and hanging out with her.


There are so many flakes by girls when you set up date on social media dating apps or even texts where as before people would just meet and hangout right away often times meet and have date same day.
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post 1577990931 04-13-2019, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
Lets see.. Imagine youre a hot chick nowadays. You make one profile on social media. You can get hundreds of dudes in an hour. Each girl prob has at least 3 social media profiles

Go back to the 60's. Youre a hot chick. What do you do? If youre popular in high school you have prob 20 girl friends you can do stuff with. But even that would take a concerted effort. Go to the mall? Go to a concert? All of those will pale in comparison to the internet

So, id say its surprising.

I could maybe see it in like, internet interaction is replacing real life interaction. But im still not buying it. The # of people people are put into contact with has to have increased by the thousands. And if youre suggesting sex doesnt come up more often, id say thats not true
Thats not true...sure girls can get on tinder and get 1000's of matches in few days but most of them will not go on a single date with those guys. I talked to girls about this even the one that was single for 1.5 years and the thing was that its scary to go out with a stranger you never even met. You have to realize that when a girl goes on a date she risks getting drug raped, assaulted, or even murdered where us guys dont even think of that.

Furthermore even if that alone is not the issue if a girl goes out with a guy on tinder he might be creepy and put her in awkward position on date...also if she end up not being interested often times these guys will keep sending msgs upon msgs. There is a reason why so many girls flake on their tinder dates. Bro there is a reason the best way to get a gf is through social circle its been like that for ages.

Before people used to meet when out and about and have a conversation before being asked on a date. When that happens girl already has some idea of what you are like in real life and if she feels there is chemistry so she is more likely to actually show up for a date.
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Originally Posted By Alphurious2039
Bizarre considering the rise of dating apps such as Tinder etc...
Tinder and social media really only work for good looking men, which of course constitutes only a minority.

A big part of the problem is that too men young men these days are too awkward and/or effeminate to make a move in real life. There are other factors as well, of course.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar
It’s less about sex and more about knowing you’re desirable. Maybe that’s just me. But life as a single person with almost 0 options for a worthwhile partner sounds meaningless.
Its not meaningless. you still have friends, family, and hobbies.

But it's really tough living with such a basic human need that you can't meet
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Originally Posted By Weezy32
Repped

I would also add that due to technology both sexes are suffering from lack of social skills which deters people from meeting each other (dont believe me just look how many people are on the phone and if you try to talk to a girl she usually has the personality of a potato) .
this is just not the case. There are so many people trying to meet up constantly. The entire point of tinder and other online options is to MEET IN PERSON. People arent afraid or avoiding that. Its just the mix of whos getting with who, and how often that's messing everything up.

You make it sound like people are out there trying to get laid but cant form sentences and talk. this is not at all whats happening.
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
A big part of the problem is that too men young men these days are too awkward and/or effeminate to make a move in real life. There are other factors as well, of course.
wrong again. The problem isnt that these men cant make moves, the problem is women dont want them too because these women are not interested in them. The amount of men who cant get laid because they never make a move is very low compared to the amount of men who just arent desirable.
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Tinder and social media really only work for good looking men, which of course constitutes only a minority.

A big part of the problem is that too men young men these days are too awkward and/or effeminate to make a move in real life. There are other factors as well, of course.
Or they just know asking out a random girl is pointless unless they are a Chad with charming social skills. It doesn't work irl.
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post 1577991301 04-13-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Weezy32
Thats not true...sure girls can get on tinder and get 1000's of matches in few days but most of them will not go on a single date with those guys. I talked to girls about this even the one that was single for 1.5 years and the thing was that its scary to go out with a stranger you never even met. You have to realize that when a girl goes on a date she risks getting drug raped, assaulted, or even murdered where us guys dont even think of that.

Furthermore even if that alone is not the issue if a girl goes out with a guy on tinder he might be creepy and put her in awkward position on date...also if she end up not being interested often times these guys will keep sending msgs upon msgs. There is a reason why so many girls flake on their tinder dates. Bro there is a reason the best way to get a gf is through social circle its been like that for ages.

Before people used to meet when out and about and have a conversation before being asked on a date. When that happens girl already has some idea of what you are like in real life and if she feels there is chemistry so she is more likely to actually show up for a date.
Bruh. Again. Theyre not sitting there doing nothing with little interaction IF they dont have another preoccupation

You could maybe convince me a career woman is preoccupied enough not to bother with sex, but if they dont have a real passion or arent withholding sex for religious reasons. Theyre certainly not sitting there doing nothing every night

When they could cure their boredom and loneliness with a simple "do you want to fuk"

Generally speaking women are much more social than men as well. Which only amplifies the social media presence and influence

Dont forget women will pretty much never come forward with their actual # as there is no benefit whatsoever. She faces social stigma from peers for being a slut and shes certainly not trying to convince the males shes after shes not special. So, thats a big ole secret. And the time she was single and lonely sitting on the couch for a myraid of reasons and had a 15 minute sex sesh definitely "escapes" her when reporting her # of sexual partners
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Four pages and this hasnt been blamed off on the boomers...I'm impressed misc.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Or they just know asking out a random girl is pointless unless they are a Chad with charming social skills. It doesn't work irl.
A few weeks ago on St patties, I went out with 3 chicks who were 5-7 range. They got approached almost NON STOP by pretty decent guys, on their level or even better.

I could not fuking believe it. And none of the guys were up to their standards so nothing happened. this notion that men are too beta or awkward to try is just not the reality out there.

Ask women themselves. few complain that they dont get approached. they complain that guys they dont want approach them.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
A few weeks ago on St patties, I went out with 3 chicks who were 5-7 range. They got approached almost NON STOP by pretty decent guys, on their level or even better.

I could not fuking believe it. And none of the guys were up to their standards so nothing happened. this notion that men are too beta or awkward to try is just not the reality out there.

Ask women themselves. few complain that they dont get approached. they complain that guys they dont want approach them.
That's because those guys aren't Chad or have sociopath tendencies. Like i said cold approaching doesn't work unless you are a charming Chad like the Rock srs.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
A few weeks ago on St patties, I went out with 3 chicks who were 5-7 range. They got approached almost NON STOP by pretty decent guys, on their level or even better.

I could not fuking believe it. And none of the guys were up to their standards so nothing happened. this notion that men are too beta or awkward to try is just not the reality out there.

Ask women themselves. few complain that they dont get approached. they complain that guys they dont want approach them.
It's cause most bishes are at the bar for the ego boost rather than wanting to go home with some random. Bishes have to be choosier about guys due to reputation / risk of harm/ possibility of getting pregnant or raped. It's ingrained in their DNA to look f or stable / high quality mates and most of those arent drunk idiots approaching at bar. Dude's legit just want to bust a nut.
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"The prevalence of obesity was 35.7% among young adults aged 20 to 39 years"


If obesity was 0%, that study would be very different. Young people are disgusted with themselves and the other sex as well. Baby boomers and genx really phucked up this country.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
It's cause most bishes are at the bar for the ego boost rather than wanting to go home with some random. Bishes have to be choosier about guys due to reputation / risk of harm/ possibility of getting pregnant or raped. It's ingrained in their DNA to look f or stable / high quality mates and most of those arent drunk idiots approaching at bar. Dude's legit just want to bust a nut.
I mean the point is its not like they couldnt find anyone. guys were approaching like crazy. Just not being chosen
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
A few weeks ago on St patties, I went out with 3 chicks who were 5-7 range. They got approached almost NON STOP by pretty decent guys, on their level or even better.

I could not fuking believe it. And none of the guys were up to their standards so nothing happened. this notion that men are too beta or awkward to try is just not the reality out there.

Ask women themselves. few complain that they dont get approached. they complain that guys they dont want approach them.
Most guys who aren't getting laid (was it about 25%?) aren't going out to bars on St. Patties in the first place, and if they are they're just in a corner with their buddies, not hitting on chicks. Incels are on the rise, but they're still a minority. Those guys who got rejected will at some point succeed with some other group of girls, if not on that day some other day. That's just how it works and has always worked. If every girl said yes to a guy on their level, every woman would have partner counts in the hundreds if not more... which is also what a lot of miscers think is happening.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
I mean the point is its not like they couldnt find anyone. guys were approaching like crazy. Just not being chosen
Yeah and dudes wonder why females have the most inflated egos of all time lol. Dude's go up to them and act like they're the best thing since sliced bread and girls know they can turn them down cause they have another one that will approach again in 10 minutes. Dude's would all be better off if they stopped glorifying women so much / giving way too much attention to dogs. It seems normal in the west for decent guys to be with ugly fukn women. But if you look at brazil for instance, you have dimes that are with average or ugly dudes.
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Most guys who aren't getting laid (was it about 25%?) aren't going out to bars on St. Patties in the first place, and if they are they're just in a corner with their buddies, not hitting on chicks. Incels are on the rise, but they're still a minority. Those guys who got rejected will at some point succeed with some other group of girls, if not on that day some other day. That's just how it works and has always worked. If every girl said yes to a guy on their level, every woman would have partner counts in the hundreds if not more... which is also what a lot of miscers think is happening.
Ok so suppose we then go ahead and add in all the incels to the bar scene as well. All that would happen is even more competition and rejection. The incels wouldnt be getting chosen anyway. If they were attractive enough to do well in bars, they would be doing better online as well
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Of course they are most people under age 30 are awkward and anti social and just look at their phones and play video games all day. Nobody knows how to interact face to face anymore. The matrix is happening right now.
hard to argue with that
Truth is out there
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0
hard to argue with that
Video games and phones arent stopping anyone from getting laid. With online dating, hookups can be arranged within hours and last not even 10 mins. more is at work here.
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In all of human history every man and woman has tried to land the highest status partner they could manage. You can't possibly be serious with this.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon
In all of human history every man and woman has tried to land the highest status partner they could manage. You can't possibly be serious with this.
wrong.

women triedto land the highest status partner possible.

men went for quantity. you think the typical male sex drive is meant to fuk one woman that can only have one kid every nine months? lol
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Ok so suppose we then go ahead and add in all the incels to the bar scene as well. All that would happen is even more competition and rejection. The incels wouldnt be getting chosen anyway. If they were attractive enough to do well in bars, they would be doing better online as well
I already went over how real life and Tinder have different standards. On Tinder, the numbers are heavily skewed in the females' favor, and you're basically competing with a whole city. In real life, competition is fairly scarce, especially outside of the club or bar scene. And most females give priority to guys they meet in real life compared to some stranger on Tinder who may be catfishing or a serial killer, for obvious reasons.

I'm also not suggesting that all incels go out to bars and approach randoms. One the problems with incels is that they look at things in black and white terms, which is understandable considering that their own lives are at one end of an extreme. Even if it's a girl who's a friend of a friend that you're interested in, you're still going to have to make a move unless you want to become some beta orbiter.

As for the attractiveness thing, not every incel is ugly. For the ones who're significantly below average in looks, yeah, they're kind of fuked. We already went over that in another thread.
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