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post 1583538121 07-09-2019, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted By DrWilliam⏩
Not trying to take any race bait here but how does that have anything to do with today? Zuckerberg, Gates, Jobs, Musk, Bezos, how could the fact that only white males were able to really do what they are doing today hundreds of years ago possibly make them any better or worse than today? Any woman who started around the same time as Gates would have every opportunity that he did right? Given the right passion and drive and work ethic?
That's the problem with systemic oppression, it continues on. Just like prejudice and cognitive biases. Did you ever read about how orchestras had low numbers of women musicians until they switched to blind auditions? Magically overnight women became better musicians.

Do you think if any of these miscers were in charge of hiring women they wouldn't already be consciously/unconsciously biased already. All this "master-race" crap, you spew it long enough you believe it.

I'm not race-baiting, but do you honestly think the day after the emancipation proclamation that all the racists just stopped being racist and gave everyone a fair shake? It took a hundred years from the end of slavery to end segregation.

As for women, it was only a generation ago they couldn't even open bank accounts in their own names, or get hired onto jobs besides basic things like secretaries.
I don't know either lol
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Originally Posted By TimeTravelerBro⏩
What you're talking about sounds like sexual dimorphism.
Basically it's the
Differences between the sexes. Males are more unique, colorful, and vibrant. While females are bland because they don't compete like males. I think it's a cognitive thing too, hence why males are tend to be geniuses and brilliant artists like Da Vinci, Picasso, Van Gough.

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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
That's the problem with systemic oppression, it continues on. Just like prejudice and cognitive biases. Did you ever read about how orchestras had low numbers of women musicians until they switched to blind auditions? Magically overnight women became better musicians.

Do you think if any of these miscers were in charge of hiring women they wouldn't already be consciously/unconsciously biased already. All this "master-race" crap, you spew it long enough you believe it.

I'm not race-baiting, but do you honestly think the day after the emancipation proclamation that all the racists just stopped being racist and gave everyone a fair shake? It took a hundred years from the end of slavery to end segregation.

As for women, it was only a generation ago they couldn't even open bank accounts in their own names, or get hired onto jobs besides basic things like secretaries.
But what does any of this have to do with creating something? Do you really think that someone the same age as Zuckerberg that was a woman or anything other than a white male wouldn't have been able to come up with ******** because of "systemic oppression"?

Way too many excuses, way too much victim mentality
post 1583538651 07-09-2019, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted By DrWilliam⏩
But what does any of this have to do with creating something? Do you really think that someone the same age as Zuckerberg that was a woman or anything other than a white male wouldn't have been able to come up with ******** because of "systemic oppression"?

Way too many excuses, way too much victim mentality
Well it's always easy to think that when you've never had to experience it. Trust me, as a straight white dude I used to think the same way. A lot of women do have great ideas but they get talked over, ignored, or have someone else take credit for them a lot. Not always, but still quite often. Trends are changing and you are seeing more and more women emerging in previously male dominated places.

I'm sure there will always be jobs that women gravitate less towards, but few things that they are incapable of.
I don't know either lol
post 1583538801 07-09-2019, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Well it's always easy to think that when you've never had to experience it. Trust me, as a straight white dude I used to think the same way. A lot of women do have great ideas but they get talked over, ignored, or have someone else take credit for them a lot. Not always, but still quite often. Trends are changing and you are seeing more and more women emerging in previously male dominated places.

I'm sure there will always be jobs that women gravitate less towards, but few things that they are incapable of.
I still don't see many women being the best at anything, or at least at very few things. Just anecdotal, but I've worked with plenty of women, and 9/10 of them suck. A lot of them just don't have the drive, ambition or work ethic. Anecdotally.
post 1583538891 07-09-2019, 12:35 AM
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Take the field of astronomy for example. A hundred years ago women weren't even allowed to operate telescopes. Today someone like Andrea Ghez is in the top of the field and used star orbits to prove the super-massive black hole at the center of our galaxy. Imagine if women had equal access to the same stuff hundreds of years ago?

I think women have made huge strides considering it's only been one or two generations of "equality"
I don't know either lol
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
lol @ hundreds of years of not allowing people to learn/practice something then calling them stupid for not being able to do it.
Assuming that was true, why was it us 'oppressing' them and not allowing them to do chit rather than the other way round?

It's not like Adam and Eve weren't both given equal chances to go and oppress one another when they were created. Nomsayin?


Also, did you vote for Hillary?
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
Assuming that was true, why was it us 'oppressing' them and not allowing them to do chit rather than the other way round?

It's not like Adam and Eve weren't both given equal chances to go and oppress one another when they were created. Nomsayin?
Yeah it's not a very popular thing to talk about but there's a reason there is an oppressor and an oppressee. It's not all just chance
post 1583538991 07-09-2019, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted By DrWilliam⏩
I still don't see many women being the best at anything, or at least at very few things. Just anecdotal, but I've worked with plenty of women, and 9/10 of them suck. A lot of them just don't have the drive, ambition or work ethic. Anecdotally.
Have you tried looking harder? Not being an ass, but you'd be surprised if you start digging into it.

I hear what you are saying, but I feel that way about 9/10 dudes I work with too. You don't work with male geniuses either I'm assuming?
I don't know either lol
post 1583539051 07-09-2019, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Have you tried looking harder? Not being an ass, but you'd be surprised if you start digging into it.

I hear what you are saying, but I feel that way about 9/10 dudes I work with too. You don't work with male geniuses either I'm assuming?
I work with a couple guys there are pretty amazing at their jobs. We have one woman in the top 15 of our company currently
post 1583539081 07-09-2019, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Well it's always easy to think that when you've never had to experience it. Trust me, as a straight white dude I used to think the same way. A lot of women do have great ideas but they get talked over, ignored, or have someone else take credit for them a lot. Not always, but still quite often. Trends are changing and you are seeing more and more women emerging in previously male dominated places.
Weird thing is, when you are pitching to potential investors who have their checkbooks out, you still have a small advantage as a white male.

But once you are funded, step 1 is to hire a semi-attractive woman to be the customer facing rep for the company. All customer service emails should be female names, marketing materials female based, website photos, et al should be female because that's what the media and customers want to see.
post 1583539131 07-09-2019, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
Assuming that was true, why was it us 'oppressing' them and not allowing them to do chit rather than the other way round?

It's not like Adam and Eve weren't both given equal chances to go and oppress one another when they were created. Nomsayin?


Also, did you vote for Hillary?
Bruh, did you just bring the bible into this? lol
I don't know either lol
post 1583539161 07-09-2019, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted By DrWilliam⏩
I work with a couple guys there are pretty amazing at their jobs. We have one woman in the top 15 of our company currently
What's the male/female ratio? Just out of curiosity
I don't know either lol
post 1583539221 07-09-2019, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
What's the male/female ratio? Just out of curiosity
Maybe 60/40 male/female if I had to guess
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Bruh, did you just bring the bible into this? lol
No. Stop dodging my question.
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
No. Stop dodging my question.
I didn't vote.

I'm sure thousands of years ago power structures were built based on gender norms at the time. People in power will always fight to maintain the status quo. Trying to justify sexism in 2019 based on Paleolithic anthropology just looks kinda douchy
I don't know either lol
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All it takes is Mookie Betts, Steph Curry, and Joe Burrow all sitting in the same car in order for one drunk driver to make the world a significantly better place.
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Well it's always easy to think that when you've never had to experience it. Trust me, as a straight white dude I used to think the same way. A lot of women do have great ideas but they get talked over, ignored, or have someone else take credit for them a lot. Not always, but still quite often. Trends are changing and you are seeing more and more women emerging in previously male dominated places.

I'm sure there will always be jobs that women gravitate less towards, but few things that they are incapable of.
I've been on this board for over 10 yrs and you legit may be the dumbest cuck yet. You can't possibly believe this bull**** lol
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
I didn't vote.

I'm sure thousands of years ago power structures were built based on gender norms at the time. People in power will always fight to maintain the status quo. Trying to justify sexism in 2019 based on Paleolithic anthropology just looks kinda douchy
What does this whole debate have to do with your phony idea of sexism? I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm just asking why things are as they are and you're not answering my question.

Assuming your theory is true: Why was it men 'oppressing' women and holding them back rather than the other way round? Can you answer that?
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
I've been on this board for over 10 yrs and you legit may be the dumbest cuck yet. You can't possibly believe this bull**** lol
which parts?
I don't know either lol
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Thousands of years of exclusion from higher education/guilds/etc. None of these places allowed women to be a part of them. Even recently you find out more and more women were responsible for some pretty amazing discoveries and inventions but then their boss or someone would take the credit and exclude them from the publishing credits.
In the modern era we are learning why they were excluded.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
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Yeah, your username pretty much states your thoughts on the matter
I don't know either lol
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Well it's always easy to think that when you've never had to experience it. Trust me, as a straight white dude I used to think the same way. A lot of women do have great ideas but they get talked over, ignored, or have someone else take credit for them a lot. Not always, but still quite often. Trends are changing and you are seeing more and more women emerging in previously male dominated places.

I'm sure there will always be jobs that women gravitate less towards, but few things that they are incapable of.
Someone has drunk the feminist cool aid.

Women in business is a cost, borne by the male workers who have to work extra hard to pay for maternity leave, flexi time (read part time workers), litigation and incompetence.

It;s why women are drawn to the public sector, low skilled doss jobs.
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
What does this whole debate have to do with your phony idea of sexism? I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm just asking why things are as they are and you're not answering my question.

Assuming your theory is true: Why was it men 'oppressing' women and holding them back rather than the other way round? Can you answer that?
You're denying sexism exists, while stating that women suck at everything.

It's not "my theory"

Imagine roles were reversed. For thousands of years men as a group weren't allowed in schools, weren't allowed to learn trade crafts, weren't allowed in politics, then after a few decades of slowly being let in were told you haven't done **** worthwhile. Well no ****.
I don't know either lol
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
You're denying sexism exists,while stating that women suck at everything.
Never said that.

I guess you're not gonna answer the question? You've repeated yourself 3 or 4 times now.
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
You're denying sexism exists, while stating that women suck at everything.

It's not "my theory"

Imagine roles were reversed. For thousands of years men as a group weren't allowed in schools, weren't allowed to learn trade crafts, weren't allowed in politics, then after a few decades of slowly being let in were told you haven't done **** worthwhile. Well no ****.
I'm imagining this scenario and it looks like we never progressed beyond basic agriculture.

If women could reproduce without men and only women existed, we'd still be living in caves.
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
Never said that.

I guess you're not gonna answer the question? You've repeated yourself 3 or 4 times now.
why men have been the oppressors? Probably started with physical strength as well as being the gatekeepers of resources
I don't know either lol
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Where are the black male equivalents as well? If men are superior where are all the ethnic minority men?


lol @ hundreds of years of not allowing people to learn/practice something then calling them stupid for not being able to do it.
BS, most men didn't have the opportunity to be creative in the past too, just like women. 99% were trying to survive.

And in the most free socities today we see women choosing completely different paths than men. Hence more men in STEM than women, even when society tries to promote these fields to women.

"Bu..bu..patriarchy kept the women down" You fckin dumb, cuck. Trying to white knight an old misc whore, LMFAO!



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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
why men have been the oppressors? Probably started with physical strength as well as being the gatekeepers of resources
But women have always been the gatekeepers of sex (yes rape happened, I know) - the most demanded resource in history.
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