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post 1583883931 07-14-2019, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By ChewYourFood
What exactly can’t you change about your life?
None of it, that's the way my life is.
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Originally Posted By Blazenwave
You have to be delusional, at least to some degree. How many of you *******s here would like to be President? Yeah, probably all of you. How many of you will actually step in and try to do it? None, because you have common sense. But the people who actually do become President are delusionalas fukand totally believe they are going to win from the start. They don't just wake up one day under that job, they actually see themselves being that person.

The take away is that - to win, youhaveto envision yourself winning. but youdon'twin every time you envision it.
I agree with you that you have to envision yourself winning. However, envisioning yourself is not an important factor in actually determining whether or not you win, just like you highlighted. This reveals that envisioning is not a determinating factor.
As for presidents, I'll just write a few lines.

Most American president come from affluent backgrounds. Most had parents in positions of power. Most went to ivy schools. Those are not the circumstances of average people.
Americans still believe the lie of the American dream where meritocracy prevails and significant social mobility happens.
Reality is much more cynical.
I don't want to go on a tangent. I'll make another thread about the American dream fallacy next time
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post 1583884521 07-14-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Even the people running for president are mostly delusional and most have no realistic chance.

Yes, some people are in position to actually win. And those people should run. Nothing wrong with taking an accurate view of your odds and running based on that.
Good people don't run expecting to win. They run for the message.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
None of it, that's the way my life is.
Nothing? I don't believe that for a second. If your life sucks as bad as you make it seem, there is a lot of room to grow.
post 1583885641 07-14-2019, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
because he's a former alcoholic trainwreck trying to fix his life and he views everyone who actually believes in reality as a threat to his illusion of perfect self

he is a terribly broken man...I thought I had problems until i saw his instagram

It's a shame too...all that strength and yet so fuking weak

Pretty sad thing to let this control your life:



But ofc rather than accept his lot in life and seek to understand and make things better, he takes it out on other people, such as those in this forum. LOL

I used to feel for Bobby. I still do. He's got some fuked up stories. But he's an ass and conspired to get me banned, so I'll say what needs to be said.
This legit made me lol.

Thank you for that. You’re acting as if I’m hiding something and you’ve unearthed a meaningful statement. I don’t know about your ban or what that’s about, sorry if you’ve let that control you life. I didn’t realize the dependency you have on that ability to post here.
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post 1583887841 07-14-2019, 04:00 PM
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So what's the alternative OP? Just accept that your life is sh!t and LDAR? Why not just play the cards that you're dealt and try to be the best you can possibly be?

Here's some motivation for all you porno addict creeps out here. You need the mindset to be a 700 lbs ripped FREAK


Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
My view today is the result of what I've experienced.15 years agoI was basically like you, irrationally positive about everything and thought I could determine my fate. but then reality hit and I dont believe that sh*it anymore dude.
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Originally Posted By ChewYourFood
Nothing? I don't believe that for a second. If your life sucks as bad as you make it seem, there is a lot of room to grow.
All I have ever said that truly sucks in my life is being unable to get women. Most other things in my life dont out right suck, mostly just meh.
post 1583888871 07-14-2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Blazenwave
You have to be delusional, at least to some degree. How many of you *******s here would like to be President? Yeah, probably all of you. How many of you will actually step in and try to do it? None, because you have common sense. But the people who actually do become President are delusionalas fukand totally believe they are going to win from the start. They don't just wake up one day under that job, they actually see themselves being that person.

The take away is that - to win, youhaveto envision yourself winning. but youdon'twin every time you envision it.
that's like business. when i started a business at age 21 I was insanely delusional. but failed so ****in hard. spent like $2500 and an entire year on my business for no profits. i had it. it's my business partner that was EVEN MORE delusional than me lmao. the key is the balance between delusional and logical
There is only one Hell: the one we live in now.
post 1583889971 07-14-2019, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
because he's a former alcoholic trainwreck trying to fix his life and he views everyone who actually believes in reality as a threat to his illusion of perfect self

he is a terribly broken man...I thought I had problems until i saw his instagram

It's a shame too...all that strength and yet so fuking weak

Pretty sad thing to let this control your life:



But ofc rather than accept his lot in life and seek to understand and make things better, he takes it out on other people, such as those in this forum. LOL

I used to feel for Bobby. I still do. He's got some fuked up stories. But he's an ass and conspired to get me banned, so I'll say what needs to be said.
Dude. What the **** is wrong with you
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
Numbers don't lie, but your "survivor bias" is quite deceiving.
Might as well believe in the law of attraction if you think that a certain mindset will directly make you successful in business or with women.

It's the hard truth that most people aren't willing to accept. It's much comforting to keep believing in a lie that gives some kind of false hope. Humans are optimistic by nature and will do anything to run away from the sometime sad reality of life.
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lol'd hard at entire thread srs

I basically just meditate and work out srs

Helps to not think about any of these things srs
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Originally Posted By jk202
Dude. What the **** is wrong with you
It was cruel, but you should see some of the chit he has said about me. Fuk it. I tried being nice to him, but he's a fuking dick. Now he knows how it feels. I actually liked Bobby too. I think deep down he's a good guy. I just don't know why he has to take his chit out on other posters.
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Originally Posted By wincel
it was cruel, but you should see some of the chit he has said about me. Fuk it. I tried being nice to him, but he's a fuking dick. Now he knows how it feels. I actually liked bobby too. I think deep down he's a good guy. I just don't know why he has to take his chit out on other posters.
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post 1583893911 07-14-2019, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
Oh look. Another "hey you can't change your life, we're all doomed to be miserable" thread
misc is full of these
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
Of course it does. Yeah tell that to all the pro athlete training to become number 1. I guess jeff bezos has the strongest mindset, while all the creator of all of the other thousands of start-up companies just have very weak mindsets.
I guess Drake just has the strongest mindset while the other artist not making it just have weak mindset.
fkn lol
Can people be this stupid?
You literally just used some of the dumbest examples possible; ones that completely counter the point you are actually trying to make.

Jeff Bezos voluntarily left a high-paying job to pursue an idea that literally everyone thought was absurd. If not for his CLEARLY rock-solid belief in himself, he never would have taken that risk. How do I know that? Because people who coast through life ("everything is predetermined") wouldn't behave in that manner as it makes no logical sense to do so (leaving comfort for uncertainty). No, "believing in yourself" doesn't mean that your stupid business idea is going to become Amazon because you "willed it so", but to pretend that people like Jeff Bezos aren't actively projecting their mindset of success 24/7 is absurd. There are people who are smarter than Jeff Bezos who suffer from crippling self-doubt (despite their "genetic gifts") who don't accomplish anything. Success in business relies on luck and timing and many other factors, but I can guarantee you that every business mogul alive shares one common trait: they all undoubtedly believe in their vision, regardless of what they are told by the outside world.

Athletes? Athletics are 50% mental. There is only so much biologically possible variance in athletic ability at the elite end of the spectrum (ie: Pro sports), such that mindset plays a huge factor in the actual output. Do you believe that Michael Jordan was twice as athletically gifted as everyone else on the court? Did he practice twice as hard? Or did his freakish mental mindset (which is highly publicized) differentiate him from countless other players who were just as athletic and skilled from a technical standpoint? Pro sports are littered with guys who are billed as the "next great thing" who ultimately fail because they lack the mental trigger which enables success. What you'll find is that across all sports, the so called "GOATs" all share an innate ability to seemingly bend the game around them which allows them to exert their own control. Yes; natural talent and athleticism and hard work are a prerequisite to greatness in every sport,however, Michael Jordan is Michael Jordan because before he even takes the last shot with the game on the line, he already knows that the ball is going in. It is a freakishly high level of belief in self which enables that.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Another echo chamber thread about this nonsense?
I think that’s why some of them are mad at me...I wasn’t giving back what they wanted to hear.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I really don't get what's so hard to grasp about this.

If you approach something with the mindset that it is going to fail, you're setting yourself up for failure.
Oh you’re fuked now bro. Inb4 attack about how delusional and retarded you are lol
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Keep up with the toxic negative mindset buddy you're going far in life. Literally every list I've seen from you is negative.
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that quite the sad kunt mentality you have there op.
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
Numbers don't lie, but your "survivor bias" is quite deceiving.
Might as well believe in the law of attraction if you think that a certain mindset will directly make you successful in business or with women.

It's the hard truth that most people aren't willing to accept. It's much comforting to keep believing in a lie that gives some kind of false hope. Humans are optimistic by nature and will do anything to run away from the sometime sad reality of life.
The bold part was cute. You baked into your BS argument a get out of jail free card.

"OH it wasn't true for you? Well clearly that's survivor bias."
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I know some of you are just negative nancy's on this forum - but do you act like this in RL at work?

I've spoken to people who are self-deprecating, and it's honestly the most cringe thing to hear. You'd think grown adults would have more of a grasp on their life. I don't even think I've ever heard this type of stuff spewed from my parents growing up. Being an adult I can see everyone has a moment of weakness, but this is just pathetic.
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Originally Posted By AshWar
So what's the alternative OP? Just accept that your life is sh!t and LDAR? Why not just play the cards that you're dealt and try to be the best you can possibly be?

Here's some motivation for all you porno addict creeps out here. You need the mindset to be a 700 lbs ripped FREAK






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Yea I had a brain at age 13. You didnt?
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Originally Posted By Bracket199
I know some of you are just negative nancy's on this forum - but do you act like this in RL at work?

I've spoken to people who are self-deprecating, and it's honestly the most cringe thing to hear. You'd think grown adults would have more of a grasp on their life. I don't even think I've ever heard this type of stuff spewed from my parents growing up. Being an adult I can see everyone has a moment of weakness, but this is just pathetic.
I dont really talk to people irl so no. I try to stay as positive as I can.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
I dont really talk to people irl so no. I try to stay as positive as I can.
What does not talking to people in RL have to do with staying positive?
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Originally Posted By Bracket199
I know some of you are just negative nancy's on this forum - but do you act like this in RL at work?

I've spoken to people who are self-deprecating, and it's honestly the most cringe thing to hear. You'd think grown adults would have more of a grasp on their life. I don't even think I've ever heard this type of stuff spewed from my parents growing up. Being an adult I can see everyone has a moment of weakness, but this is just pathetic.
nobody is advocating for negativity. We're arguing that positive for positivity's sake rarely makes a difference. thats all we're saying. no need to be positive or negative, just look at things the way they are. live in reality
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
Give some counterarguments
Women don’t like me = won’t approach

Everyone woman wants to bang me = might possibly get laid a dozen times a year without looksmaxing or hitting the gym.

Mindset is literally everything. To believe that what you think doesn’t drive your actions is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Nice troll post brah
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Mindset,discipline, motivation/interest are legit the most important factors to success in anything.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
nobody is advocating for negativity. We're arguing that positive for positivity's sake rarely makes a difference. thats all we're saying. no need to be positive or negative, just look at things the way they are. live in reality
Fair enough. But living in reality is also how you react to things that happen to you. It's not about pretending to be positive when bad things happen, but it's to not let bad things happening affect your world.

Some of you make jokes about manlets, and baldcels. However, if these were dealbreakers, then why do some of us succeed? (speaking as a 5'7 manlet).
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Originally Posted By metafour
You literally just used some of the dumbest examples possible; ones that completely counter the point you are actually trying to make.

Jeff Bezos voluntarily left a high-paying job to pursue an idea that literally everyone thought was absurd. If not for his CLEARLY rock-solid belief in himself, he never would have taken that risk. How do I know that? Because people who coast through life ("everything is predetermined") wouldn't behave in that manner as it makes no logical sense to do so (leaving comfort for uncertainty). No, "believing in yourself" doesn't mean that your stupid business idea is going to become Amazon because you "willed it so", but to pretend that people like Jeff Bezos aren't actively projecting their mindset of success 24/7 is absurd. There are people who are smarter than Jeff Bezos who suffer from crippling self-doubt (despite their "genetic gifts") who don't accomplish anything. Success in business relies on luck and timing and many other factors, but I can guarantee you that every business mogul alive shares one common trait: they all undoubtedly believe in their vision, regardless of what they are told by the outside world.

Athletes? Athletics are 50% mental. There is only so much biologically possible variance in athletic ability at the elite end of the spectrum (ie: Pro sports), such that mindset plays a huge factor in the actual output. Do you believe that Michael Jordan was twice as athletically gifted as everyone else on the court? Did he practice twice as hard? Or did his freakish mental mindset (which is highly publicized) differentiate him from countless other players who were just as athletic and skilled from a technical standpoint? Pro sports are littered with guys who are billed as the "next great thing" who ultimately fail because they lack the mental trigger which enables success. What you'll find is that across all sports, the so called "GOATs" all share an innate ability to seemingly bend the game around them which allows them to exert their own control. Yes; natural talent and athleticism and hard work are a prerequisite to greatness in every sport,however, Michael Jordan is Michael Jordan because before he even takes the last shot with the game on the line, he already knows that the ball is going in. It is a freakishly high level of belief in self which enables that.
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy
Women don’t like me = won’t approach

Everyone woman wants to bang me = might possibly get laid a dozen times a year without looksmaxing or hitting the gym.

Mindset is literally everything. To believe that what you think doesn’t drive your actions is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Nice troll post brah
Exactly.

These clowns can't even comprehend that there are literally people out there (a LOT of them) who hold jobs that they have no business holding all because they were delusional enough to apply for them, and they actually BELIEVE that they are there on merit LMAO.

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